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wonderwall
New Zealand695 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17871 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
So the smurf on our team (a chipper) pretty much carried the game till all the others underfarmed/underleveled guys in our team could put a decent team fight. Hopefully even if we all sucked (cept for chipper) we had some strong heroes for late game ( SS, CD etc...) and we managed to win 5v4. A strat only viable when there is a huge difference in skill level i guess. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17871 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On February 13 2012 00:16 Manit0u wrote: I'm disappointed. I managed to get back into 1500+ after quite a struggle and since I did the game quality has significantly dropped. There's a lot more flaming, skill disparity etc. Still better than unverified where first timers are matched vs 1700+ :< | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17871 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17871 Posts
I can totally imagine a lineup like this: Pyromancer Witchslayer Deadwood Nymphora/Tempest/Kraken Forsaken Archer The amount of disable and dmg (both physical and magical) coming out of it is insane and lanes should work well too as you have heroes who can work either solo or in pairs. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On February 13 2012 00:43 Manit0u wrote: At least that gives them some excuse, unlike retarded 1500+ people who believe that predator is the best jungle hero ever and the very first item they get on him is parasite... They are wrong jungle BH is the best hero ever | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On February 14 2012 00:34 Manit0u wrote: So, I've been experimenting a bit with some heroes that aren't used as much nowadays (like Deadwood) and I'm wondering why some of them aren't picked on the competetive scene. I mean, DW fits current metagame pretty fine, he's got AoE disable, slow, extra dmg for farming and beastly ultimate. And he's not very item dependant either. Seems like a very nice ganker overall. I'm wondering why people aren't for example picking DW when Pebbles gets banned, seems like a fine replacement. I can totally imagine a lineup like this: Pyromancer Witchslayer Deadwood Nymphora/Tempest/Kraken Forsaken Archer The amount of disable and dmg (both physical and magical) coming out of it is insane and lanes should work well too as you have heroes who can work either solo or in pairs. I think he can't really make good burst combo like pebs since he has to use his ult to really kill people whereas Peb only uses his "normal" skills and hence works better with an hero like Nymphora. Also it seems that people don't really like to try new heroes when they are already confident with one character of the same type (i.e: peb) so if peb gets banned they just get a different style of line up since there are tons of "OP" heroes. Why pick a DW when you can get a magebane, a tremble, a zephir or a "push" line up with a Keeper or Ophelia ? Also Pyro is awesome but it seems quite hard to play tbh. Idk if it is the reason why he is not picked as much by the pros but i feel that the delayed stun is not something really easy to land and you can screw up big time. Btw the rise of elephant on the competitive scene seems interesting and he is quite fun to play too. I usually tend to feed too much but with him i'm often able to escape some really dangerous situations. Stun+charge and tanky stats are good for your K/D ! | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17871 Posts
And one more question for all of you: How much do you farm on a carry? I'm asking this because recently people started to call me names in the games where I'm playing Flint Beastwood for example, complaining that I'm not helping with ganks etc. when it's 15min into the game and I have no opponent in mid as I've scared NH away already (people pick such heroes and then are shocked when someone actually gets rev wards). How can I ignore this freefarm? No one is ganking me, I have entire lane to myself, creepwave after creepwave and my team wants me to just drop it and go and do 5-man ganks, which we didn't really need as we had magmus and pebbles just bro hugging together the entire game... I mean, in 15 min I just got my laning items and just started working on shieldbreaker/shrunken and in general I thought that with FB you kinda ignore everything to keep your farm up (talking about a situation where you're not losing any lanes or anything). It's not like he's a very ganky hero... Tell me if I'm wrong or not (because if I am, I need to change my FB habits immediately). I guess I watched too many games with AngryTestie as FB and just can't pull it off the same way with my sub-par skill. | ||
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
On February 14 2012 09:23 Manit0u wrote: No matter how hard I try I can't seem to love Chaugnar Faugn (because that should be his real name according to the Cthulhu Mythos, or perhaps a mix of him and Star Spawn). And one more question for all of you: How much do you farm on a carry? I'm asking this because recently people started to call me names in the games where I'm playing Flint Beastwood for example, complaining that I'm not helping with ganks etc. when it's 15min into the game and I have no opponent in mid as I've scared NH away already (people pick such heroes and then are shocked when someone actually gets rev wards). How can I ignore this freefarm? No one is ganking me, I have entire lane to myself, creepwave after creepwave and my team wants me to just drop it and go and do 5-man ganks, which we didn't really need as we had magmus and pebbles just bro hugging together the entire game... I mean, in 15 min I just got my laning items and just started working on shieldbreaker/shrunken and in general I thought that with FB you kinda ignore everything to keep your farm up (talking about a situation where you're not losing any lanes or anything). It's not like he's a very ganky hero... Tell me if I'm wrong or not (because if I am, I need to change my FB habits immediately). I guess I watched too many games with AngryTestie as FB and just can't pull it off the same way with my sub-par skill. If you're FB, you've won your lane, you're free farming, and your teammates' lanes aren't feeding, it's a dominant strategy for you to continue farming. As in any RTS, when you are ahead don't throw away your lead by attempting something stupid: get more ahead. Just make sure your teammates have TPs and can countergank if your opponents try to creep up on you. Good sight is critical though. In addition to rune wards, you want a ward with vision of your lane's enemy tower TP radius so you can 1.) Spot attempts at ganks to call for teammate TP to countergank. 2.) Push for free towers if/when opponents back off. That's basically Testie's winning strategy when he has friends who take orders. In pubs, this is significantly less effective because even at 1700, you have teammates who won't carry tps, and won't use the TPs even when you buy them and place them on your teammates' characters. Then again, this is not to say that if your opponent's team composition is something like scout, sand wraith, madman, night hound, dark lady, that you can't just push in their rax at 10 minutes since you can and should; the only difference in this situation is whether you win at 15 minutes or win at 45 minutes or you lose at 80 minutes. | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
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LaiShin
Australia978 Posts
What really annoys me is when FB has no real items to show from his farming sessions. Otherwise, a farming FB is a winning FB! | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
You should keep farming. | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
I just made an unverified account and played a game. Talk about bottom of the barrel. I've officially seen it all, my friends. What really got me loling IRL was when I politely questioned our orange scout why he had not researched his electric eye move yet (he was lvl 7). He then SCREAMED back at me, "FUCK YOU. YOU LICK MY DOGSHIT OFF MY BOOT". A little later, after he had calmed down, I politely asked again. This time he said, "Fuck you man. I don't play support scout. I carry you newbs." He wasn't trolling. I gave a hearty laugh and stroked my neckbeard. Didn't surprise me at all when he afk'd a few minutes later after getting pummeled a few times by the opposing team's smurfing Fayde and Pharoah. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17871 Posts
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On February 14 2012 12:00 Alventenie wrote: Testie's friends who take orders lol. Most of the games he plays the people he play with don't do that. If someone from TS is playing he gets TPs a lot and wards a good chunk of the time but rarely changing wards throughout the game that need to be offensive or in good spots for ganking at certain points in the game. I am a team player, I would never steal farm or tablet Testie into precarious situations, I would also never use hook or wall based abilities that would hinder Testie in pursuing enemies / not dying. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2454 Posts
On February 14 2012 07:53 semantics wrote: They are wrong jungle BH is the best hero ever AHAHAHA I did this one game, it was glorious. Not gloriously successful, unfortunately =/ | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
Yeah, them... | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On February 15 2012 15:14 SK.Testie wrote: My friends who take orders... Yeah, them... ... them...? | ||
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