EPTReminds me of people who whine because their favourite fighting game with 50+ characters has tiers.
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
Reminds me of people who whine because their favourite fighting game with 50+ characters has tiers. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2396 Posts
Here the balance is changing and leaving beloved favourites behind. Not to mention the whole "early access" thing. For me though it's not so much the balance as just the design. S2 is in like "never repeat anything EVER!" mode so they give every new hero 4 very complicated skills. Basically dictates how the hero must be played, instead of letting a hero's playstyle emerge naturally from the combination of their skills and interactions with others. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
I mean there are already a shit ton of heros... they all will look the same if don't bring some new ridiculous abilities and stuff. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
On December 10 2011 16:29 RoieTRS wrote: I play bw a lot. I've dabbled in LoL and HoN. How true is this? It's not as bad as that. Game is pretty balanced, though there's still some stuff that can be tweaked to be better, and of course the newer heroes still need some tweaking to be 100% balanced. I'm pretty sure that guy was just mad that another game could be as good as his beloved Dota 1. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4146 Posts
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
On December 10 2011 19:55 M2 wrote: Guys a noob dota question: If you turn on the pipe after venomancer or viper launched their ultimates will the -400 damage apply? I am not sure since its a damage over time. I am actually not sure will it work even if the pipe is turned on before the ultimates are launcher. So how it works? If I recall correctly the damage reduction from activating pipe does negate veno ult damage even if it's already on you. Not 100% sure but pretty sure. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On December 10 2011 19:57 Angra wrote: If I recall correctly the damage reduction from activating pipe does negate veno ult damage even if it's already on you. Not 100% sure but pretty sure. will negate the damage each tick. so if its doing 64 damage per second it will negate 64 damage per second, until the 400 damage is used up by whatever spells. the only catch is that pipe only lasts for a short time. | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Matchmaking Rework The "Average Wait Time" displayed when waiting for a match should now be much more accurate Group leaders can now select whether they prefer to have a shorter queue time or a fairer match when queueing for matchmaking. This option can be changed without leaving the matchmaking queue Introduced a "Provisional Ranking Period" for new players that will facilitate adjusting them to their true skill level (whether higher or lower) much faster than before Players with team members who have been terminated should lose less points for a loss, and gain more points for a win Made numerous changes to the way MMR is calculated such as how many points players gain or lose each match, how match predictions are calculated between two potential teams when searching for a matchup, and many other changes to the backend calculations that should make the MMR progression much more accurate in predicting and placing a player at their true MMR rating Optimizations to the matchmaking algorithm that should reduce queue times across the board The game lobby and hero select screens now show match gain/loss values with more precision as it is now possible to gain/lose fractional amounts of MMR All players will have their Normal and Casual MMR compressed towards 1500. Take for example a player with Normal MMR of 1700, and Casual MMR of 1600. After the compression their Normal MMR would become become (1700 + 1500) / 2 = 1600) while their Casual MMR would become (1600 + 1500) / 2 = 1550 The minimum MMR has been increased from 750 to 1000 See the forums for more information! Player Spectating Can now join a friend's game in progress and watch from their point of view No delay, your camera is locked to the view of the specific person you are watching You must be approved by the person you are trying to watch before you can join and they can kick you out at any time Currently, a player may only have 1 Player Spectator or Mentor and a limit of 4 on a server at any one time Mentoring Join the game of another player and Mentor them to help them improve! Your camera is locked to their camera, the same as Player Spectating You still have to ask permission from the player to join their game and can be removed at any time The Mentor has additional special functions available: Holding Right Mouse Button will show your mouse to your Pupil (You can already see theirs) CTRL+Enter will message your Pupil or Mentor Holding X will let you have voice chat with only your Mentor or Pupil You can also ping your Pupil's Minimap screen as a Mentor Bindings can be changed Currently, a player may only have 1 Player Spectator or Mentor and a limit of 4 on a server at any one time Referral System has been updated All of the people you have referred can now be seen in-game Introducing the Referral Promotion - If you Refer a friend, and help that friend reach level 3, both of you will receive the Exclusive Professor Repulsor Alt Avatar Forest of Caldavar changed Every tree on the map has been replaced with new, more awesome trees An ancient large statue was discovered near the Legion Observatory Life has begun to flourish, and you should hear more Ambient sounds as you enjoy the world New recruits have joined the fight! The Lane Creeps, including Mega Creeps, have been completely redone with new models, animations, and sounds Water shaders have been significantly improved The River now flows down the map and there is realtime reflection from the water Added a new option: Rim Lighting Can be turned on in the options to draw a larger contrast on the edge of units RAP Reduced infractions required for temporary suspension from 3 to 2 The Chatserver has been updated for HoN 2.5 You will have to log out and patch before you can reconnect Tower attack volume has been adjusted Hero Spotlights will now automatically pop up the first time you enter the game after a new one is posted == Items == Items in the shops have been moved around a bit to ensure that each shop is priced lowest to highest Keybinds might have changed! Keep that in mind New Item: Grave Locket Amulet of Exile (485) Recipe (250) Total: 735 7 Intelligence 4 Agility 4 Strength Passive When you get a kill or assist, the Locket becomes charged When charged, gains +3 to all stats and reduces respawn time by 10 seconds If the wielder dies, the charge will be removed New Item: Genjuro Assassin's Shroud (3300) Dancing Blade (3000) Total: 6300 Auto-Assembles 25 Agility 45 Damage 20 Attack Speed Active 75 Manacost On use, consumes a charge and grants stealth for 9 seconds Attacking out of stealth deals an additional 125 damage and inflicts 55% movespeed slow for 3 seconds Gain a charge every 14 seconds, up to 2 charges Homecoming Stone Tooltip fixed slightly Mana Battery Now transfers its charges to Power Supply when you upgrade it Runes of the Blight Sounds redone Void Talisman Removed the 'use' animation, fixes animation bugs with channels and while moving == Heroes == Added a new Early Access Hero: Shadowblade Added a new Limited Edition Alt Avatar: Corporeal Shadowblade The Early Access bundle now includes a Limited Edition Symbol! Gemini is now available in the general hero pool Added a new Doctor Repulsor Alt Avatar: Professor Repulsor Voiced by the dwarfy Simon of the Yogscast YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/BlueXephos Cannot be purchased in the Goblin Store Available only through the Referral System Added a new Martyr Alt Avatar: Sister Martyr Added a new Chronos Alt Avatar: Grandfather Chronos Reward for reaching the purchase goal of Father Time Chronos Will be added to your account for free if you bought Father Time Chronos Fallen Valkyrie's animations were redone == Bugfixes == Cthulhuphant: Fixed Obliterate so that it really doesn't hit stuff behind him if positioned at very specific points Cthulhuphant: Fixed Trample so it doesn't hit behind him in the initial cast position Dampeer: Fixed Consume so that the heal you get accounts for Spellshards Gemini: Fixed an issue with Twin Strike that made him do less attack DPS than intended Gemini: Fixed some effects playing through fog Gemini: Updated some skewed portraits Jeraziah: Animation Smoothing Lord Salforis: Animation Smoothing Myrmidon: Attacks in Forced Evolution form now go through Void Talisman Moraxus: Animation Smoothing Pandamonium: Animation Smoothing Pandamonium: When Face Smash channel starts, Pandamonium now does 1 autoattack right off the bat instead of waiting 1 second for the first hit Plague Rider: Animation Smoothing Plague Rider: Fixed Staff of the Master tooltip issue and an interaction with deleted characters idk about mentoring, but the fact that you can now spectate people playing games is huge. Im spectating right now, actually :D | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On December 11 2011 06:38 ZaplinG wrote: what do you guys think of the new patch? + Show Spoiler + Matchmaking Rework The "Average Wait Time" displayed when waiting for a match should now be much more accurate Group leaders can now select whether they prefer to have a shorter queue time or a fairer match when queueing for matchmaking. This option can be changed without leaving the matchmaking queue Introduced a "Provisional Ranking Period" for new players that will facilitate adjusting them to their true skill level (whether higher or lower) much faster than before Players with team members who have been terminated should lose less points for a loss, and gain more points for a win Made numerous changes to the way MMR is calculated such as how many points players gain or lose each match, how match predictions are calculated between two potential teams when searching for a matchup, and many other changes to the backend calculations that should make the MMR progression much more accurate in predicting and placing a player at their true MMR rating Optimizations to the matchmaking algorithm that should reduce queue times across the board The game lobby and hero select screens now show match gain/loss values with more precision as it is now possible to gain/lose fractional amounts of MMR All players will have their Normal and Casual MMR compressed towards 1500. Take for example a player with Normal MMR of 1700, and Casual MMR of 1600. After the compression their Normal MMR would become become (1700 + 1500) / 2 = 1600) while their Casual MMR would become (1600 + 1500) / 2 = 1550 The minimum MMR has been increased from 750 to 1000 See the forums for more information! Player Spectating Can now join a friend's game in progress and watch from their point of view No delay, your camera is locked to the view of the specific person you are watching You must be approved by the person you are trying to watch before you can join and they can kick you out at any time Currently, a player may only have 1 Player Spectator or Mentor and a limit of 4 on a server at any one time Mentoring Join the game of another player and Mentor them to help them improve! Your camera is locked to their camera, the same as Player Spectating You still have to ask permission from the player to join their game and can be removed at any time The Mentor has additional special functions available: Holding Right Mouse Button will show your mouse to your Pupil (You can already see theirs) CTRL+Enter will message your Pupil or Mentor Holding X will let you have voice chat with only your Mentor or Pupil You can also ping your Pupil's Minimap screen as a Mentor Bindings can be changed Currently, a player may only have 1 Player Spectator or Mentor and a limit of 4 on a server at any one time Referral System has been updated All of the people you have referred can now be seen in-game Introducing the Referral Promotion - If you Refer a friend, and help that friend reach level 3, both of you will receive the Exclusive Professor Repulsor Alt Avatar Forest of Caldavar changed Every tree on the map has been replaced with new, more awesome trees An ancient large statue was discovered near the Legion Observatory Life has begun to flourish, and you should hear more Ambient sounds as you enjoy the world New recruits have joined the fight! The Lane Creeps, including Mega Creeps, have been completely redone with new models, animations, and sounds Water shaders have been significantly improved The River now flows down the map and there is realtime reflection from the water Added a new option: Rim Lighting Can be turned on in the options to draw a larger contrast on the edge of units RAP Reduced infractions required for temporary suspension from 3 to 2 The Chatserver has been updated for HoN 2.5 You will have to log out and patch before you can reconnect Tower attack volume has been adjusted Hero Spotlights will now automatically pop up the first time you enter the game after a new one is posted == Items == Items in the shops have been moved around a bit to ensure that each shop is priced lowest to highest Keybinds might have changed! Keep that in mind New Item: Grave Locket Amulet of Exile (485) Recipe (250) Total: 735 7 Intelligence 4 Agility 4 Strength Passive When you get a kill or assist, the Locket becomes charged When charged, gains +3 to all stats and reduces respawn time by 10 seconds If the wielder dies, the charge will be removed New Item: Genjuro Assassin's Shroud (3300) Dancing Blade (3000) Total: 6300 Auto-Assembles 25 Agility 45 Damage 20 Attack Speed Active 75 Manacost On use, consumes a charge and grants stealth for 9 seconds Attacking out of stealth deals an additional 125 damage and inflicts 55% movespeed slow for 3 seconds Gain a charge every 14 seconds, up to 2 charges Homecoming Stone Tooltip fixed slightly Mana Battery Now transfers its charges to Power Supply when you upgrade it Runes of the Blight Sounds redone Void Talisman Removed the 'use' animation, fixes animation bugs with channels and while moving == Heroes == Added a new Early Access Hero: Shadowblade Added a new Limited Edition Alt Avatar: Corporeal Shadowblade The Early Access bundle now includes a Limited Edition Symbol! Gemini is now available in the general hero pool Added a new Doctor Repulsor Alt Avatar: Professor Repulsor Voiced by the dwarfy Simon of the Yogscast YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/BlueXephos Cannot be purchased in the Goblin Store Available only through the Referral System Added a new Martyr Alt Avatar: Sister Martyr Added a new Chronos Alt Avatar: Grandfather Chronos Reward for reaching the purchase goal of Father Time Chronos Will be added to your account for free if you bought Father Time Chronos Fallen Valkyrie's animations were redone == Bugfixes == Cthulhuphant: Fixed Obliterate so that it really doesn't hit stuff behind him if positioned at very specific points Cthulhuphant: Fixed Trample so it doesn't hit behind him in the initial cast position Dampeer: Fixed Consume so that the heal you get accounts for Spellshards Gemini: Fixed an issue with Twin Strike that made him do less attack DPS than intended Gemini: Fixed some effects playing through fog Gemini: Updated some skewed portraits Jeraziah: Animation Smoothing Lord Salforis: Animation Smoothing Myrmidon: Attacks in Forced Evolution form now go through Void Talisman Moraxus: Animation Smoothing Pandamonium: Animation Smoothing Pandamonium: When Face Smash channel starts, Pandamonium now does 1 autoattack right off the bat instead of waiting 1 second for the first hit Plague Rider: Animation Smoothing Plague Rider: Fixed Staff of the Master tooltip issue and an interaction with deleted characters idk about mentoring, but the fact that you can now spectate people playing games is huge. Im spectating right now, actually :D they get around maphax by onyl allowing you to see your friends pov but i wish in spectate i could have some sort of free cam Also lol s2 has no balls with their psudo mmr reset | ||
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[TYG]Transcend
679 Posts
On December 10 2011 08:53 JeeJee wrote: I'm pretty sure we beat woot waffles man, you just don't remember. I definitely remember opening all of the gates at the top.. although I don't remember what happens after. We have confirmed this already via your saves and screen shots. It's just not possible. | ||
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GhostKorean
United States2330 Posts
Now transfers its charges to Power Supply when you upgrade it" omg i might start playing hon again | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
i'd agree that it is cheating, but im not going to deny the fact that ive tried it before to study - works wonders. what about for gaming? you think its considered cheating? also, you think a lot of top players are on something of the sort when gaming? | ||
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buckbo1604
Canada186 Posts
On December 11 2011 13:47 BlueRoyaL wrote: just browsed through a thread about college exams, a little debate going on in there concerning the use of adderall i'd agree that it is cheating, but im not going to deny the fact that ive tried it before to study - works wonders. what about for gaming? you think its considered cheating? also, you think a lot of top players are on something of the sort when gaming? You can do without it. Dont need any drugs. good luck. | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
just from past experience on using adderall, it seems like it makes you focus better so i was just genuinely curious whether gamers use it. and it's a really interesting question as to whether or not it should be considered illegal. | ||
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StiX
Netherlands220 Posts
Kiiro on HoN | ||
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Invoker
Belgium686 Posts
"even russians don't want to play with russians" | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
edit: + Turks and the whole SA | ||
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wonderwall
New Zealand695 Posts
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=368882 "even russians don't want to play with russians" This is excellent news. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On December 13 2011 19:56 Boblion wrote: man i would pay for a 100% Brazilian server. edit: + Turks and the whole SA i would troll on that server all day. Codex armadon! | ||
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