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Let's compare Cats and Ryugie. As Ryugie likes to start shit and pick on cats. Cats knows how to do other things, he simply prefers to play carries. That's not really a crime. Bdares likes to play heros like lion / NA after all. No one really cares if someone plays an int hero, but they get :[ if someone prefers strong carries.
Anyway, on to the comparison.
Cats: 1. He's a nice guy, and does not rage. He will talk back if someone starts shit with him but otherwise he's really peaceful and easy to get along with. For the most part this isn't really arguable. We can all come up with instances of one another after all. He usually avoids it and squelches them if they are being obnoxious. (I.e. despite being frustrated with the constant newbs on his team today rather than raging he gave suggestions and tips to help them). 2. He performs his role. As he usually picks carries, that is usually to farm and avoid ganks until he is strong. 3. He takes blame when blame is his to take. 4. Is willing to stay in a lot of games we are down to attempt to make a comeback and tries hard to make it happen. 5. Has a good attitude and outlook on the game.
Ryugie: 1. Not nearly as nice or helpful to new players. 2. Occasionally performs his role, depends if he feels like it. 3. Is usually too full of rage or emo. Emo is, "I give up. We're going to lose." When not in these modes, if losing or in a hard game he may hide said emotions with "lulz" behavior. 4. Never takes the blame. Will blame team even when it is his fault the team lost. (This concept will evade him. As he will never think it is his fault). 5. Makes constant excuses about lag. Every death is usually due to typing, lag, luck, a team mate not doing something, etc... 6. Has very poor judgement on what lost the game and where turning points are. Gets emo if the game gets hard and gives up rather than trying harder.
So, rag on Cats all you want. He isn't nearly as flawed as you. Edit: This needs to be in bold. Go rewatch that game with you naga against me / JF. Watch it until you understand you are the reason you lost the game. Look at it, and say, "... wow, shit. He's right. It was all me. I should probably improve rather than blame a team that was doing great."
Cats would never do that. EVER. So don't look down on him. He doesn't think he's superior tbh. He just wants to come on, and do what he does, and play. In all the time I have known him Cats has never looked down on someone.
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Okay, I don't have a base to discuss cats' play further, because you've obviously played with him a lot more, and a lot more recently than I have.
But I still don't think you should be talking about him like that. TL dota isn't what I think of as high level because... well, everyone fucks up all the time, and most of the time they don't even realize they messed up. Just because you realize it when someone else fucks up doesn't mean they're the sole reason the game isn't pro level. And if he's really so bad that you can't stand it, I'm sure there are better things to do than just talking about it. People called me a baby and other unflattering names for refusing to team with PPZ at one point, but accepting a teammate and bitching about his lack of teamplay is dumber in my eyes.
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my replies in bold:
On July 24 2008 10:46 MYM.Testie wrote: Let's compare Cats and Ryugie. As Ryugie likes to start shit and pick on cats. Cats knows how to do other things, he simply prefers to play carries. That's not really a crime. Bdares likes to play heros like lion / NA after all. No one really cares if someone plays an int hero, but they get :[ if someone prefers strong carries.
Anyway, on to the comparison.
Cats: 1. He's a nice guy, and does not rage. He will talk back if someone starts shit with him but otherwise he's really peaceful and easy to get along with. For the most part this isn't really arguable. We can all come up with instances of one another after all. He usually avoids it and squelches them if they are being obnoxious. (I.e. despite being frustrated with the constant newbs on his team today rather than raging he gave suggestions and tips to help them). the only person that would say that is you because he sucks your dick so much. so ridiculous. 2. He performs his role. As he usually picks carries, that is usually to farm and avoid ganks until he is strong. too bad he's never strong to do anything remotely helpful to the team 3. He takes blame when blame is his to take. are you serious? this faggot blames his team more than i ever did 4. Is willing to stay in a lot of games we are down to attempt to make a comeback and tries hard to make it happen. lol i've seen way too many games where he gives up so fast 5. Has a good attitude and outlook on the game. hahahahahaha please. farm all game? suck ass at everything? including farming? while disparaging those who don't feed him creeps? if things don't go his way, i've seen him become more of an ass than i ever was to anyone. please.
Ryugie: 1. Not nearly as nice or helpful to new players. yes, because they don't listen to the seniors. otherwise, i'm cool with everyone! holy shit! who knew respect was so important to ryugie?! seriously, if they need help, i'm obviously going to help them. i didn't make this thread for nothing. i'm only going to get mad at players who don't do as they're told when they're obviously new. 2. Occasionally performs his role, depends if he feels like it. so if i farm all game and every game, i have a role? that's fun. 3. Is usually too full of rage or emo. Emo is, "I give up. We're going to lose." When not in these modes, if losing or in a hard game he may hide said emotions with "lulz" behavior. if emo = having the foresight to predict the end result reliably, yes, i'm emo 4. Never takes the blame. Will blame team even when it is his fault the team lost. (This concept will evade him. As he will never think it is his fault). maybe because it is someone else's fault? i've taken the blame when shit goes wrong. don't even try to use that old card 5. Makes constant excuses about lag. Every death is usually due to typing, lag, luck, a team mate not doing something, etc... because your host sucks ass and i do lag. holy shit!! who knew not being able to control your hero some periods of time would result in death? not me! not testie!! 6. Has very poor judgement on what lost the game and where turning points are. Gets emo if the game gets hard and gives up rather than trying harder. why try when the game is over? so i can get more frustrated?
So, rag on Cats all you want. He isn't nearly as flawed as you. lol. Edit: This needs to be in bold. [Go rewatch that game with you naga against me / JF. Watch it until you understand you are the reason you lost the game. Look at it, and say, "... wow, shit. He's right. It was all me. I should probably improve rather than blame a team that was doing great."
Cats would never do that. EVER. So don't look down on him. He doesn't think he's superior tbh. He just wants to come on, and do what he does, and play. way to overlook all of cats' flaws. if a fat kid wants to have fun at the playground and gets stuck on the slide, he ruins the fun for everyone else. likewise, his presence totally disrupts the game and prevents any form of collective fun among the team. it's ironic how you tell me that i give up so easily when i'm the reason why we were able to survive in that game so long. how many lanes did i push by myself? two? what was my team doing? feeding you guys. please. stop defending that piece of shit.
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On July 23 2008 14:14 MYM.Testie wrote: WTF AGU ??!?!?!! !?! ?! ?! ?! ?! ? or is this a lie or is he just showing him how to ASDF it hurts it hurrrrrrrts my heart if its a lie
lol sorry !!!! <: [
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this picture makes me lol :D
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yo guys im looking to get back into Dota and was wondering where youll congregate to play?
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im just a spectator but if cats can't farm like crazy why not just not let him play carry
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cos he fails at every role? :p
On July 24 2008 14:06 uidf wrote: yo guys im looking to get back into Dota and was wondering where youll congregate to play?
try reading the OP o_O
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well then dps should be the last kind of hero he plays
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sp every game, buy wards + give grave = ez life
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cats vs ryugie 1v1 -arshom loser gets banned from clan 4 lyfe
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how does the outcome of a 1v1 determine anything?
suns v lakers, their best player 1v1 each other. doesn't mean shit given their histories.
regardless, i'd rape him 1v1 my host
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WHO CARES CATS IS CATS IS CATS. HE IS MAH ALLY. I HAVE MADE THIS DECISION LONG AGO ON BROOD WAR AND KEEP IT TODAY.
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I really don't think we're at a level where a single player can mess up his team that badly.
These days, I refuse to get angry at a teammate. I only get angry when I make a mistake.
Yelling at people for not listening to you is a waste of time.
(Yay for a coherent post.)
I guess bottom line is, do your own shit and do it well, and be satisfied with that (if you do it well, that is). If you can't stand a teammate, don't team with him. Obviously he's so bad that you can curb stomp his ass if he's on the other team, right?
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Wow, I can't believe you morans cried for 2 pages instead of writing haikus.
Luskar is powerful Smoke billows up from dead trees Sent just lost their rax
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Haiku are so weak Counting syllables, boring Let's go play dota
ASDF
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to keep it simple, yet effective in meaning: L is a faggot
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paper is raging scourge allies are suffering sentinel is bliss
paper dead again bad team, lag, luck, stopped playing these words you will hear
paper hates cats, why? cats is peaceful and friendly prejudice runs deep
zulu nation 8 your name is five syllables it makes haikus suck
QoP, TS Lina, SK, Beast Master! This is a line up.
L is back in clan "I love the golden showers!" L is out of clan
One hundred thirty Add one to make my CS At twenty minutes *continued* QoP attack! Divine rapier ravage them Hollllly shiiiit announced
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paper is playing everyone rejoices ilovecats is dead!
testie has randomed. taking mid with a melee? that's GG for sent.
paper dies to lag. there is no such thing as lag? thenwhycanticontrolmyheroandwhyistextcomingallatonce
paper needs a heal omniknight just walks by him oh wait, what happened # no heal for paper as he dies to sentinel the fault must be his.
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