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xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
July 29 2011 14:27 GMT
#28641
the big deal is it goes against things they promised when the game was originally sold effectively being a misrepresented product; but since there is no binding law or contractual obligation to prohibit this it's just a dick move that people are understandably angry over.

If i release a guy with a bazooka that owns the game, and you can have him for free in 2 months whilst I ride you hard for 2 months I am not giving you what you were sold.

Same thing happened to TF2 tbh
Meh.
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 14:27:48
July 29 2011 14:27 GMT
#28642
Thats a hell of a lot of changes. Cant say that Im against it for now since S2 pretty much had to do this move (obviously the better one for MOBA games). Ill restrict judgement for now until I see how it is in game.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
Cathasaigh
Profile Joined April 2010
United States285 Posts
July 29 2011 14:29 GMT
#28643
On July 29 2011 23:19 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 22:06 wonderwall wrote:
Erm wow.

Legacy accounts still don't get to use the "Early Access" heroes until they are released to the entire playerbase. That means you still have to pay to play as Monkey King right now even if you bought hon from the look of it.


Yes brilliant deduction.

Thing is when MK is released to the player base the Legacy accounts get him for free right away. The basic/verified accounts will still have to buy it after release.

Your account still has many great perks to it. The gameplay itself hasn't changed. I honestly don't see what the big deal is.

The big deal is that people who bought their accounts previously were told they would never have to pay more money for anything that provided an advantage, a hero being out that you have to pay for (even if they get it in a month) is something that provides an advantage to those who bought it.
This is the tale of Captain Jack Sparrow!
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 14:37:01
July 29 2011 14:36 GMT
#28644
i dont understand this decision from S2, especially when dota2 is right at the corner. i am so confused D: (not that this is my first confusion from S2, just saying)
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
July 29 2011 14:46 GMT
#28645
Its just so said to see whats happening in low MMR games now.
People get insulted so hard because they are "F2P"...

It could work if the HoN community wasnt that bad. But this F2P decision acts like a catalysator on the rage of the pub-kids...
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 29 2011 14:46 GMT
#28646
On July 29 2011 23:36 BurningSera wrote:
i dont understand this decision from S2, especially when dota2 is right at the corner. i am so confused D: (not that this is my first confusion from S2, just saying)


I specially understand this decision because Dota 2 is right around the corner. If you had to chose between two very similar games, one done by Valve, with probally a lot more money and infra-structure involved and another one done by a random company, Dota 2 would be ahead.

By going with the F2P route, they remove themselfs from a straight competition with Valve, one that even if they didn't lose, would still result in a lot of lost sales. If you are in doubt, you go with what's free.

That assuming Dota 2 goes with a pay now get everything for free model (except hats).
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 14:51:51
July 29 2011 14:47 GMT
#28647
Wait HON is F2P NOW :O?

Omg WANT

Means I can stop playing Dota and hear all you people here constantly talk of a game I know nothing of.

Also to be fair its a smart idea, as LoL is kinda taking over unfortunately =/, and with Dota 2 in the future. Get what money while they can.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
July 29 2011 14:47 GMT
#28648
On July 29 2011 23:36 BurningSera wrote:
i dont understand this decision from S2, especially when dota2 is right at the corner. i am so confused D: (not that this is my first confusion from S2, just saying)


the general idea seems that s2 is trying to squeeze every dollar out of hon they can, first they reduce the price to 10$ for quite some time and then they just make it "f2p" and try to get some microtransactions going
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
July 29 2011 14:52 GMT
#28649
Well if you already have an account I don´t see it as that much of a problem since you only get the new heroes a little bit later wich is not that big of a problem for me because I rarely ever play them anyways.

But it sucks that you can´t buy normal accounts anymore and just get all the heroes for 10$. Kinda annoying that they are adapting the shitty LoL system but I guess that earns more money.

But if you are new to Hon starting with 15 heroes and then just buying the ones you´re interested in with silver coins shouldn´t be a problem either.

All in all I´m happy with the change if it succeds to grow the scene.
[A]dmiral Bulldog | Naniwa | [A]lliance
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 29 2011 14:59 GMT
#28650
ye it could only be 2 reasons:

On July 29 2011 23:46 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 23:36 BurningSera wrote:
i dont understand this decision from S2, especially when dota2 is right at the corner. i am so confused D: (not that this is my first confusion from S2, just saying)


I specially understand this decision because Dota 2 is right around the corner. If you had to chose between two very similar games, one done by Valve, with probally a lot more money and infra-structure involved and another one done by a random company, Dota 2 would be ahead.

By going with the F2P route, they remove themselfs from a straight competition with Valve, one that even if they didn't lose, would still result in a lot of lost sales. If you are in doubt, you go with what's free.

That assuming Dota 2 goes with a pay now get everything for free model (except hats).


or

On July 29 2011 23:47 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 23:36 BurningSera wrote:
i dont understand this decision from S2, especially when dota2 is right at the corner. i am so confused D: (not that this is my first confusion from S2, just saying)


the general idea seems that s2 is trying to squeeze every dollar out of hon they can, first they reduce the price to 10$ for quite some time and then they just make it "f2p" and try to get some microtransactions going


i personally think that S2 understands the reality (everyone will go for dota2 after its release) so they did a small 'gamble' (like FliedLice said).

hon will probably go 'real f2p' when there is less than 5k players online :3 maybe 1 year after dota2 released?
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Phaded
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia579 Posts
July 29 2011 15:03 GMT
#28651
On July 29 2011 23:47 Benjef wrote:
Wait HON is F2P NOW :O?

Omg WANT

Means I can stop playing Dota and hear all you people here constantly talk of a game I know nothing of.

Also to be fair its a smart idea, as LoL is kinda taking over unfortunately =/, and with Dota 2 in the future. Get what money while they can.

You get a shitty neutered version of hon because you didn't buy an account when you had the chance.
I am down but I am far from over
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 15:04:28
July 29 2011 15:04 GMT
#28652
On July 29 2011 23:47 Benjef wrote:
Wait HON is F2P NOW :O?

Omg WANT

Means I can stop playing Dota and hear all you people here constantly talk of a game I know nothing of.

Also to be fair its a smart idea, as LoL is kinda taking over unfortunately =/, and with Dota 2 in the future. Get what money while they can.


i am a veteran dota player too :D i gave HoN a try and i am kinda hooked(so many imba sh!t in hon i must say)! i bought it when it is on sales (10$) and i think it is a good purchase since i am waiting for dota2 anyway. I did give LoL a try too, couldnt even finish the first game >_< i sincerely dont (wanna) believe that LoL will become something bigger than dota/2. that game blows.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
July 29 2011 15:17 GMT
#28653
On July 30 2011 00:03 Phaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 23:47 Benjef wrote:
Wait HON is F2P NOW :O?

Omg WANT

Means I can stop playing Dota and hear all you people here constantly talk of a game I know nothing of.

Also to be fair its a smart idea, as LoL is kinda taking over unfortunately =/, and with Dota 2 in the future. Get what money while they can.

You get a shitty neutered version of hon because you didn't buy an account when you had the chance.

Dont care. If i dont like it I'll go back to playing Dota and wait for Dota 2.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
July 29 2011 15:27 GMT
#28654
Errrrr I'm having a problem creating an account. As in I click Create Account and it just reloads the screen oO.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
NikonTC
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom418 Posts
July 29 2011 15:30 GMT
#28655
On July 30 2011 00:17 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 00:03 Phaded wrote:
On July 29 2011 23:47 Benjef wrote:
Wait HON is F2P NOW :O?

Omg WANT

Means I can stop playing Dota and hear all you people here constantly talk of a game I know nothing of.

Also to be fair its a smart idea, as LoL is kinda taking over unfortunately =/, and with Dota 2 in the future. Get what money while they can.

You get a shitty neutered version of hon because you didn't buy an account when you had the chance.

Dont care. If i dont like it I'll go back to playing Dota and wait for Dota 2.


I mean, a HoN account was $10 ... if you DO end up liking HoN then you're going to end up spending so much more than that.. seems like you missed the boat more than anything.
"IdrA crushes the marine push, absolutely demolishes this 2 rax play. Would not be suprised to see a GG from IdrA at any moment" Day[9]
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 15:38:17
July 29 2011 15:37 GMT
#28656
I just don't get why they would not allow players to still purchase "Legacy" status for 30$. If I were one of those guys trying out HON and found I like it I would much rather buy the game instead of having to bother with 15 heroes a week and tokens to play SD/BD/BP/AR and shit like that. The jump between verified and legacy is too big in my opinion. I know it's free but it feels like they are holding new players back even thought they find that they wish to spend some money.
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 15:51:28
July 29 2011 15:38 GMT
#28657
There was a huge loophole in this apparently. There was the IGN trial promotion that started about the beginning of this month, and basically you get a free account for thirty days. This free account had all the full features and you start out with 400 coins (200/200 gold/silver). You can do matchmaking, public games, etc. I made an IGN Prime account (it's a free trial for a month, so you don't have to pay for anything as long as you don't sign up for another month) to sign up for this HoN trial account. I wanted to smurf so I could play at the same MMR with a friend of mine who wanted to try the game. We've been playing for a while, everything works fine.

Fast-forward to today and the whole thing goes F2P. I go on and check my smurf account and it's a fucking Legacy account.

tl;dr - if you signed up using the IGN Prime promotion, you basically got a free Legacy account.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 16:02:58
July 29 2011 16:01 GMT
#28658
Hey, Ziggy. You didn't tell me you did Voice work for S2 O:

Oh and when DoTA 2 comes out, I'm dropping S2 like 4th-Grade French class.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
July 29 2011 16:06 GMT
#28659
On July 30 2011 01:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
Hey, Ziggy. You didn't tell me you did Voice work for S2 O:

Oh and when DoTA 2 comes out, I'm dropping S2 like 4th-Grade French class.

What about bomb! Myrm! Deadwood! Madman! Pred! You guys say you will drop it but i don't know if i can leave those poor babies out in the cold for a long time as the game dies.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 29 2011 16:10 GMT
#28660
I only play Myrm out all of those.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
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