EPTRUNES DIE IN 1 HIT!
any summon hero can now deny runes effectively, be it lycan or furion.
before it use to take 4 hits
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stanley_
United States816 Posts
RUNES DIE IN 1 HIT! any summon hero can now deny runes effectively, be it lycan or furion. before it use to take 4 hits | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
I need to get a hon icon that says MAN UP THUNDERHAMMER | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On July 20 2011 15:23 stanley_ wrote: biggest overlooked change? RUNES DIE IN 1 HIT! any summon hero can now deny runes effectively, be it lycan or furion. before it use to take 4 hits That was in there before the recent patch, no? I swear I've done it before. | ||
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5-s
United States1674 Posts
On July 20 2011 15:23 stanley_ wrote: biggest overlooked change? RUNES DIE IN 1 HIT! any summon hero can now deny runes effectively, be it lycan or furion. before it use to take 4 hits Holy shit lycan buff??? But yea I've used this a bit already. | ||
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xZiGGY
United Kingdom801 Posts
On July 20 2011 12:17 r33k wrote: Love the responses "plz make video still pictures too hard for me to comprehend hurr" yeah lol, someone else made a video for it though, it looks really sick | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
I've also noticed people in dota skilling aura at 1 | ||
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maJes
United Kingdom186 Posts
On July 20 2011 23:33 Nevuk wrote: How do people like skilling glacius/cm ? I've been trying playing around with a few different ones and pretty much all of them seem to have advantages in certain situations.I generally am getting the aura to 2 and then trying maxing out another ability now. I've also noticed people in dota skilling aura at 1 I'm a baddie, but I really like playing glacius by getting tundra blast at level 1, then going 2 aura and then ice prison, then finishing blast and aura before prison, getting ult as I can. Mostly I find that my teams don't need the full aura that quickly, and blast is great for setting up ganks in lane or being able to get away by giving you more time and space to juke. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
2. bite Then max aura asap then bite, ulti usually at 10/11 but you can get it earlier on maiden since the buff. Never get aura at level 1 lol. Sometimes get aura at 2 if you are going to be ultra passive for a while and u won't need both nova+bite (most of the time you will). | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On July 20 2011 23:44 maJes wrote: I'm a baddie, but I really like playing glacius by getting tundra blast at level 1, then going 2 aura and then ice prison, then finishing blast and aura before prison, getting ult as I can. Mostly I find that my teams don't need the full aura that quickly, and blast is great for setting up ganks in lane or being able to get away by giving you more time and space to juke. I'm also bad, but that's the way I like to go as well. I'll switch it up depending on teams though. Sometimes 1 level in both blast and freeze if you really are going to make use of it and your team doesn't have someone who really really benefits from the mana regen. Sometimes I'll take freeze at 1 then aura if I don't think there's a gank opportunity and my lane is going to be defensive (maybe this is wrong, but defensively I like level 1 freeze more than level 1 blast). | ||
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rabidch
United States20288 Posts
On July 20 2011 23:50 Goshawk. wrote: 1. nova 2. bite Then max aura asap then bite, ulti usually at 10/11 but you can get it earlier on maiden since the buff. Never get aura at level 1 lol. Sometimes get aura at 2 if you are going to be ultra passive for a while and u won't need both nova+bite (most of the time you will). i've seen people get ult much earlier, and sometimes you can delay aura to level 4 depending on lineups | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On July 20 2011 23:54 rabidch wrote: i've seen people get ult much earlier, and sometimes you can delay aura to level 4 depending on lineups Yeah I've always wondered about that as well. I know if I'm playing with a Tempest or Kraken for example I like to get the ult at level 6 because I can combo it with their ult. Likewise if the enemy team is a bit lacking in short cooldown channeling interruptions giving you the chance to pop your ult safely. | ||
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PrideNeverDie
United States319 Posts
On July 20 2011 23:33 Nevuk wrote: How do people like skilling glacius/cm ? I've been trying playing around with a few different ones and pretty much all of them seem to have advantages in certain situations.I generally am getting the aura to 2 and then trying maxing out another ability now. I've also noticed people in dota skilling aura at 1 watch chinese dota players play cm. try to remember why they do the things they do. watch a lot of replays. 1 hour spent on replays will improve you much more than 1 hour spent in a dota pub. only watch chinese players. | ||
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Corona`
Canada37 Posts
On July 20 2011 23:33 Nevuk wrote: How do people like skilling glacius/cm ? I've been trying playing around with a few different ones and pretty much all of them seem to have advantages in certain situations.I generally am getting the aura to 2 and then trying maxing out another ability now. I've also noticed people in dota skilling aura at 1 Some hon pros arent even leveing aura anymore. "The HenryD build" HenryD calls it. Since beta i've gone 1/1/1 on glac than leveled blast and freeze respectively. Glacius is such a good ganker and people underuse him hardcore saying hes only good for his aura and wards. by leveling your ganking abilities u get mad money for assists and can always afford tp's, wards, counters, striders, and maybe even an item or two. Dont waste the glacius potential. Dont build aura. It's way to boring. | ||
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Kragx
Denmark236 Posts
On July 20 2011 23:33 Nevuk wrote: How do people like skilling glacius/cm ? I've been trying playing around with a few different ones and pretty much all of them seem to have advantages in certain situations.I generally am getting the aura to 2 and then trying maxing out another ability now. I've also noticed people in dota skilling aura at 1 Depends on lanes and heroes. Usually nova 1, ice block 2, aura x3. Ulti sometimes at lvl 6 in dota, after the mana cost change, but not if you or the team is sacked. In general boots+magic stick/wand makes skilling ulti viable. If you are going to push lane/push lanes back max nova afterwards, but if you need to time spells with kunkka/gladiator(i think it is in HoN) or if you're against blinking heroes you can consider skilling ice block higher than nova. In general, don't skill untill you see opponents on lane. Nova have large cast range, and can hit multiple targets, but ice block can break animation on ES/behemoth. Also, if there's been mass fight in level 1 (and you're out of mana and clarities), consider taking aura level 2, and make sure to dodge fights as much as possible before level 3. Passive 3-lane faceoff gains most from defensive nova harras (clarity cancle and can hit all 3 sometimes) but supporting a solo lane vs another solo usually benefits most from ice block. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On July 21 2011 00:26 Kragx wrote: Depends on lanes and heroes. Usually nova 1, ice block 2, aura x3. Ulti sometimes at lvl 6 in dota, after the mana cost change, but not if you or the team is sacked. In general boots+magic stick/wand makes skilling ulti viable. If you are going to push lane/push lanes back max nova afterwards, but if you need to time spells with kunkka/gladiator(i think it is in HoN) or if you're against blinking heroes you can consider skilling ice block higher than nova. In general, don't skill untill you see opponents on lane. Nova have large cast range, and can hit multiple targets, but ice block can break animation on ES/behemoth. Also, if there's been mass fight in level 1 (and you're out of mana and clarities), consider taking aura level 2, and make sure to dodge fights as much as possible before level 3. Passive 3-lane faceoff gains most from defensive nova harras (clarity cancle and can hit all 3 sometimes) but supporting a solo lane vs another solo usually benefits most from ice block. This is how I typically build, but nova is such a good skill and now that it scales in slow/duration per level it seems useful to at least trade off between aura and it. (I almost always get ult at 6 just because of how good it is to tp to tower dives with. and teamfights in general) On July 21 2011 00:04 PrideNeverDie wrote: watch chinese dota players play cm. try to remember why they do the things they do. watch a lot of replays. 1 hour spent on replays will improve you much more than 1 hour spent in a dota pub. only watch chinese players. Any dota teams/players in specific to watch? (or replays, that would be pretty great). | ||
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rabidch
United States20288 Posts
On July 21 2011 00:46 Nevuk wrote: This is how I typically build, but nova is such a good skill and now that it scales in slow/duration per level it seems useful to at least trade off between aura and it. (I almost always get ult at 6 just because of how good it is to tp to tower dives with. and teamfights in general) Any dota teams/players in specific to watch? (or replays, that would be pretty great). The problem with only watching Chinese players is that you don't get too much perspective about thinking outside the box, only the result of people who spent their time maximizing strategies according to their play. That's why DTS crushed EHOME in WDC in groups with a push strategy and made EHOME look like noobs who didn't know what they were doing. Sometimes they will pick unusual strategies but you have to follow the scene in order to know which games were played like that, many videos are only up in VoD. Also CM isn't played this much this version so you have look around a little more. That said, CM players to watch: Gx (SL, former LGD), 820 (EHOME), ddc (CCM, former Dream), NS(M5, former DTS) edit that said aura level 1 is stupid | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
there's no real such thing as an EXTREMELY good glacius player. her role is so simple. you are a good glacius if you are a good player - be at the right places, support correctly, etc | ||
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Glull
Germany404 Posts
On July 21 2011 02:08 BlueRoyaL wrote: you guys make it sound like glacius/cm is a complex hero to play. there's no real such thing as an EXTREMELY good glacius player. her role is so simple. you are a good glacius if you are a good player - be at the right places, support correctly, etc show up with evidence or dont post like that please, thanks ~ | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
glacius isn't a hero in which an extremely good player can showcase their skills to the fullest extent. when i said she isn't a complex hero, what i meant was that her skills aren't hard to use and dont take much skill - which is why you can play her well if you just have good skills | ||
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Ganfei2
473 Posts
On July 21 2011 02:08 BlueRoyaL wrote: you guys make it sound like glacius/cm is a complex hero to play. there's no real such thing as an EXTREMELY good glacius player. her role is so simple. you are a good glacius if you are a good player - be at the right places, support correctly, etc lol....that applies to every single hero if you change a couple words around. Really stupid thing to say. Like saying PvZ is easy, just make the right units and attack at the right time. | ||
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