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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 27 2011 02:18 GMT
#27101
The CM ban was bad, like it really showed that they had no clue what they were doing.
Get it by your hands...
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
June 27 2011 02:35 GMT
#27102
On June 27 2011 04:11 tube wrote:
i soloed mid with a furbolg once

Solo mid with Fuzzy Wuzzy is fun.
I'm a big fan of it.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 27 2011 05:51 GMT
#27103
On June 27 2011 11:18 Judicator wrote:
The CM ban was bad, like it really showed that they had no clue what they were doing.

well, just dont watch those games. we'll leave it at that
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 10:59:42
June 27 2011 10:58 GMT
#27104
My friend and I (both 1900+) players decided to make some subaccounts to play some lower level games for fun, and we've already lost 5 games out of 25 just due to the AMAZINGLY moronic players who populate this 1500 bracket.

So one game I random valkyrie. This dipshit Australian guy with a 49% win ratio after 1700 games played who was our amazing 1720 pink player (playing late at night with less than 5 is a guarantee to get some incredibly bad Australian or Asian player, at least in US realms) proceeds to ragequit over me randoming in an AP game.

Then he reconnects after we try to kick him and has randomed Kotf, who he proceeds to jungle with before sending all his minions to my lane over and over to a-move and fuck me severely as I'm already 1v2ing with Valk against pyro + elec. Then he suicides to them a couple times. The brown player who is his friend and I presume a part of his group, who is also a 1000 game 50% winrate 1600, ends up 0/11/0 and also griefs nonstop while talking mad shit the entire time. Meanwhile our opponents are also talking mad shit.

It's such a shit storm at lower levels. Really, the only way to win with these incredibly bad players is to pick a really really strong mid hero and then demand the lane and forcefully push these morons out. 2 person queues at 1500 level is a fucking nightmare, you can either choose to win your lane and watch your ridiculously bad partners who are legitimately 1500 after 3,000 games get completely shit on in every lane or you can choose to go mid + split one person to lane with one of those guys.

Anyways I just needed to vent after the incredibly frustrating experience of last game. DONT PLAY WITH FEWER THAN 3 PEOPLE BELOW 1800. Every competitive game has a threshold at which the friendly noobs become egotistical dipshit noobs who think they are insane pros and begin to develop massively overinflated egos. In SC it was around D+; people below D+ are friendly and seemingly aware of their massive failings and lack of skill. After D+ these scrubs suddenly start bragging about being C- and being able to rape anyone 1v1. In HON this level seems to be around 1550; shit players below that generally are aware of their noobness, while players above it no matter how bad suddenly become good enough to justify rage quitting the game when the 1950 MMR guy randoms.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34498 Posts
June 27 2011 11:09 GMT
#27105


The pudge or rubick or even lanaya should be 1 imo, the SK wasn't that special. But other than that quite a good episode.

I can't figure out the sf suiciding scene.
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xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
June 27 2011 11:11 GMT
#27106
I don't have an overinflated ego, I have an overinflated trolling gland.
Meh.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
June 27 2011 11:35 GMT
#27107
My friend and I (both 1900+) players decided to make some subaccounts to play some lower level games for fun, and we've already lost 5 games out of 25 just due to the AMAZINGLY moronic players who populate this 1500 bracket.


I think you're blowing it out of proportion, you get the good games and the bad in that bracket. I float around the 1500-1600 bracket in the games I've played and you're right you can just pick a strong mid and roflstomp sometimes but you don't need to ignore your team entirely. Sometimes you get a few competent people and you can do things like group push and gank.

Though you do occasionally get grouped with 4 Brazilians and you need to just mute your entire team/pray their mid is incompetent.
Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 12:30:18
June 27 2011 12:21 GMT
#27108
On June 27 2011 19:58 Ganfei2 wrote:
My friend and I (both 1900+) players decided to make some subaccounts to play some lower level games for fun[...]


You lost me there.

What's the actual purpose? Casual games? Then why put effort into worrying about your team/outcome. Getting a ridiculous winrate for e-p33n? then why random.
You want to random/be casual yet still own the shit out of scrubs with shitty picks and maintain 90%+ win rate? What did you expect? :D
It's quite amusing, some days you're just looking for something to rage at... it's not like it's anything new/unexpected
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 27 2011 12:55 GMT
#27109
On June 27 2011 21:21 Corr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 19:58 Ganfei2 wrote:
My friend and I (both 1900+) players decided to make some subaccounts to play some lower level games for fun[...]


You lost me there.

What's the actual purpose? Casual games? Then why put effort into worrying about your team/outcome. Getting a ridiculous winrate for e-p33n? then why random.
You want to random/be casual yet still own the shit out of scrubs with shitty picks and maintain 90%+ win rate? What did you expect? :D
It's quite amusing, some days you're just looking for something to rage at... it's not like it's anything new/unexpected


This.
I really don't know what you were expecting heading into those games.
Get it by your hands...
eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
June 27 2011 13:27 GMT
#27110
On June 27 2011 21:55 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 21:21 Corr wrote:
On June 27 2011 19:58 Ganfei2 wrote:
My friend and I (both 1900+) players decided to make some subaccounts to play some lower level games for fun[...]


You lost me there.

What's the actual purpose? Casual games? Then why put effort into worrying about your team/outcome. Getting a ridiculous winrate for e-p33n? then why random.
You want to random/be casual yet still own the shit out of scrubs with shitty picks and maintain 90%+ win rate? What did you expect? :D
It's quite amusing, some days you're just looking for something to rage at... it's not like it's anything new/unexpected


This.
I really don't know what you were expecting heading into those games.


I think it was supposed to be a counterargument to the statement that if you're good, you will crush through low level games no problem, even solo.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 16:46:34
June 27 2011 16:46 GMT
#27111
5am (PST) GotA session

[image loading]

FUCK YEAH SPANISH ARMADA

i should edit this map to make it a little better
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 17:57:09
June 27 2011 17:56 GMT
#27112
On June 28 2011 01:46 rabidch wrote:
5am (PST) GotA session

[Second best picture of all time]

FUCK YEAH SPANISH ARMADA

i should edit this map to make it a little better

I don't see where you could make it better, except for mid-game spanish armada pushes, they seem a bit too strong in the current Gota metagame, especially when supported by a quad-blink.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
June 27 2011 18:08 GMT
#27113
On June 27 2011 22:27 eluv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 21:55 Judicator wrote:
On June 27 2011 21:21 Corr wrote:
On June 27 2011 19:58 Ganfei2 wrote:
My friend and I (both 1900+) players decided to make some subaccounts to play some lower level games for fun[...]


You lost me there.

What's the actual purpose? Casual games? Then why put effort into worrying about your team/outcome. Getting a ridiculous winrate for e-p33n? then why random.
You want to random/be casual yet still own the shit out of scrubs with shitty picks and maintain 90%+ win rate? What did you expect? :D
It's quite amusing, some days you're just looking for something to rage at... it's not like it's anything new/unexpected


This.
I really don't know what you were expecting heading into those games.


I think it was supposed to be a counterargument to the statement that if you're good, you will crush through low level games no problem, even solo.


As a quick question, did you try talking nicely? If not then you were probably being trolled. Also if you were using voice chat and were telling someone to do something without saying thanks etc you were being trolled. The fastest way out of the 1500 bracket is to be NICE. Not to be good.
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
June 27 2011 18:12 GMT
#27114
On June 27 2011 21:21 Corr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 19:58 Ganfei2 wrote:
My friend and I (both 1900+) players decided to make some subaccounts to play some lower level games for fun[...]


You lost me there.

What's the actual purpose? Casual games? Then why put effort into worrying about your team/outcome. Getting a ridiculous winrate for e-p33n? then why random.
You want to random/be casual yet still own the shit out of scrubs with shitty picks and maintain 90%+ win rate? What did you expect? :D
It's quite amusing, some days you're just looking for something to rage at... it's not like it's anything new/unexpected


For fun = yes. We can maintain 90% winrate with randoming and 2 people queues. Playing higher level TMM with 2 people can get very stale very fast. Playing low level games and randoming can be fun, even with bad teammates. As to saying "what else can you expect," I would say a lot. Playing with bad noobs isn't a problem until the bad noobs start going crazy with the shit talk, and that was the first game of 25 that it happened. Prior to that game we lost a game where I was 500+ gpm the entire time with a maxed out puppet for the last 40 minutes of the game and both my buy backs down and it was nowhere near as frustrating as dealing with the idiots of the game I described because our noobs were at least trying and not griefing. Griefing =/= being a noob.

Venting doesn't have a point beyond release. And as the argument has been made before, when you start a new account you start low, you don't start at your rank. It takes a relatively short period of time to "stomp" to your real MMR. Our accounts are both near 1700 after only 25 games.

hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
June 27 2011 18:28 GMT
#27115
gg.net vs m5 is live now.

http://www.own3d.tv/live/10588/joinDOTA
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 27 2011 18:44 GMT
#27116
On June 28 2011 02:56 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 01:46 rabidch wrote:
5am (PST) GotA session

[Second best picture of all time]

FUCK YEAH SPANISH ARMADA

i should edit this map to make it a little better

I don't see where you could make it better, except for mid-game spanish armada pushes, they seem a bit too strong in the current Gota metagame, especially when supported by a quad-blink.

put in a real courier
maybe tweak some heroes
take out some annoyances like murloc click size
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
June 27 2011 18:45 GMT
#27117
Ganfei is pretty mad because he can't win 1500 games, dont worry though - Testie has a tendency to do that aswell.
Also
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2011 19:58 Ganfei2 wrote:
lost 5 games out of 25

On June 27 2011 19:58 Ganfei2 wrote:
We can maintain 90% winrate with randoming and 2 people queues.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 18:50:29
June 27 2011 18:50 GMT
#27118
On June 28 2011 03:28 hideo wrote:
gg.net vs m5 is live now.

http://www.own3d.tv/live/10588/joinDOTA

razors a fun hero, but hes practically pointless in the current metagame and against a lineup like that... m5 got outpicked so hard
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 19:04:45
June 27 2011 19:01 GMT
#27119
On June 28 2011 03:45 Alur wrote:
Ganfei is pretty mad because he can't win 1500 games, dont worry though - Testie has a tendency to do that aswell.
Also
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2011 19:58 Ganfei2 wrote:
lost 5 games out of 25

On June 27 2011 19:58 Ganfei2 wrote:
We can maintain 90% winrate with randoming and 2 people queues.


yeah, I'm sorry, after the last game it's 83%, my bad, calm down

and yeah it's kind of hard to win 1500 games sometimes, when you random everything and get shit like glacius or shaman like we do. As I said I was on a 500 gpm puppet with maxed items for over 30 minutes, including buying a couple new BKBs for 10 second immunity, but if your allies have sub 200 gpm against another maxed team it doesn't really matter. I suppose it's more accurate to say "1700" games now, not 1500, but they're the same level anyways so it doesn't matter.

I wasn't aware that teamliquid was the place for typical HON forum trolling, but this thread has always had more lax rules than the rest.
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 19:13:41
June 27 2011 19:10 GMT
#27120
The other problem with smurfing is that whenever you expect anything from your teammates, you're doomed. Even if you ping 5 times and explain clearly in chat what you want, you still can't expect the other players to play accordingly.

Solo ganking, warding, pushing towers, basically everything usually falls on your shoulders.

On June 28 2011 04:01 Ganfei2 wrote: I suppose it's more accurate to say "1700" games now, not 1500, but they're the same level anyways so it doesn't matter. .


That's like comparing D and C/C+ on Iccup, not the same level at all.
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