[HoN/DotA] Let's Play~!! - Page 1181

On February 23 2011 12:08 Crimson wrote:


but sr does have a potential to carry o.O

On February 22 2011 14:05 rabidch wrote:

magna isnt really viable enough buti think it would work well with tons of 3 hero setups. that video with the wisp makes me wonder how jacked the bear can get and quick 12 sec tower pushes

On February 23 2011 14:16 Judicator wrote:


It's just interesting because up until now, people were abusing the same timing window that has been around since 42 (with the exception of 52e era lulz) just in different forms. The fact is that people were using that tri-lane to create a 4-man-able space in mid game with something like a SF doing the heavy lifting during that window, but yet nobody even attempted to do the rape your towers and make you play defensive while we have 80% (both forests, better half of 2 lanes and break even on the third) of the access to all of the available gold. Like if Scourge loses mid and top tower too quick, they get cut out from their forest pretty hard and more specifically the runes.

On February 23 2011 14:16 Judicator wrote:


It's just interesting because up until now, people were abusing the same timing window that has been around since 42 (with the exception of 52e era lulz) just in different forms. The fact is that people were using that tri-lane to create a 4-man-able space in mid game with something like a SF doing the heavy lifting during that window, but yet nobody even attempted to do the rape your towers and make you play defensive while we have 80% (both forests, better half of 2 lanes and break even on the third) of the access to all of the available gold. Like if Scourge loses mid and top tower too quick, they get cut out from their forest pretty hard and more specifically the runes.

On February 23 2011 16:01 Ack1027 wrote:
They need to buff towers hp or armor a bit imo.

Also fuck sentinel towers. They have juke attack animations that sometimes don't attack whereas scourge towers always attack when their animation starts. Not a big deal really but after thousands of games I've probably died or lost out on like 100 kills/deaths due to that shit.

On February 23 2011 15:57 rabidch wrote:

i'd say a combination of hero/item balance, execution, but mostly hero/item balance.

like veno wasnt that used until a combination of omfgultmakesudead and magic wand/stick nerfs and small buffs to his passive, same thing with sylla but not as much. on a side note i've notice that medallion could make the bear really soft, mostly just negative armor things could work but targeting the bear isnt always the best idea. or the old frostbite or cyclone trick, but i think the common push/zoning lineups can work to force people to give up towers easily

On February 23 2011 23:00 Judicator wrote:


Cyclone/Frostbite last the normal hero duration on the bear now. A Dazzle with the Bear would be pretty fucking annoying if the Dazzle solo-ed mid.

On February 24 2011 11:31 Judicator wrote:
Funny enough, that's about the timing window for the old mass necro3 strat, except you're knocking on the raxes on that point. Obviously not with necro3s, but 5 necro1s is pretty hilarious.

On February 24 2011 12:13 rabidch wrote:

i'm pretty sure the timing could be made better with better players and level management

it obv isnt as dependent on items than lineup and levels, maybe the pros have realized this but wow bear with that much damage early/mid game has the potential to be ridiculous push lineup. the wex/exort build isnt too bad either with 1 quas, can meteor or emp to keep away, maybe short duration tornado too

On February 24 2011 13:13 OmgIRok wrote:


if we took leoric out, we could put in like... ogre magi or lycan, but lycan kinda makes the lineup too iffy, although wolves + bear + howl except the lineup is supposed to revolve around 1 unit (bear) so trying to split up the dps isn't very efficient, however with howl dunno

Item builds should be janggo and AC with vlads, probably mek on wisp for the double heal, and a necrobook for sure on invoker or something lol forge spirits, bear, necro warriors pretty gg especially with a multicast bloodlust

On February 25 2011 05:37 TheTester wrote:
A bit of seriousness here.

Unban me from clan teamliquid on HoN. Last night we ended up having a random matchmaking game between me, a friend of mine and a couple people I grabbed off of the channel against mouse, buckboii and a few others.

The game was pretty nice except for buckboii talking shit about me every now and then with zero precedent. I didn't insult him or talk shit back, neither did anyone on my team, except for me mentioning "manners" at some point. No insults, no offensive gg's, nothing. We won the game with him saying things like "get on my level" and how the hell he can be losing to someone like me.

At some point I actually thought he was kidding so I didn't really care. Afterwards though someone mentioned on the channel how the game gave them a lot of coins and I said "yeah, that game put me over 2k kills and assists". At this point I got banned by buckboii from the channel.

He seemed pretty tilted at that point so I didn't really pressure it since I had to go sleep as well. I'd like to say that there is exactly zero cause for me to actually be banned as we did nothing wrong (except win a game against them), and the rest of his team was cool as well.

I'd appreciate it if somebody unbanned me, even better if it was you yourself, buckboii.

On February 25 2011 07:59 TheTester wrote:
There is no drama. Sometimes people get angry at this game, I've done it myself, but I try not to take it out on other people (so far it's worked for anyone except a few friends I have).

But one's got to realize what makes sense and what doesn't after you've cooled down, and banning me made no sense.

On February 25 2011 23:02 wopaahh wrote:
it's always sad to see immature people with moderator rights.