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TheTester
United States172 Posts
Oh wtf, I'm IN it, but it doesn't show up on my list | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7582 Posts
On February 14 2011 12:59 TheTester wrote: Why the fuck can't I join clan teamliquid anymore wtf Oh wtf, I'm IN it, but it doesn't show up on my list Happened to me often. Dunno now. | ||
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SushilS
2115 Posts
On February 14 2011 04:54 OmgIRok wrote: I'm disappointed guys, DotA thread on 2nd page? What the hell #3 was pretty pro Oh and new intro and ELECTRIC IS BACKKKK Personally felt the pimpest plays were Veno and Naix! But skill wise #3 was hella clutch. | ||
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iSiN
United States1075 Posts
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Glull
Germany404 Posts
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GhostKorean
United States2330 Posts
Rule 2: Thunderclaw is good because it shoots lightning Rule 3: It's always Sunye's fault NP + Show Spoiler + why do i suck | ||
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Glull
Germany404 Posts
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On February 14 2011 12:59 TheTester wrote: Why the fuck can't I join clan teamliquid anymore wtf Oh wtf, I'm IN it, but it doesn't show up on my list This happens to me 90% of the time, which somehow also results in the TL channel chat being displayed in my games. | ||
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alia
United States294 Posts
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DevAzTaYtA
Oman2005 Posts
On February 14 2011 12:47 buckbo1604 wrote: Um testie..mind watching the vod for our last match and giving us tips? Ill post the link tomorrow. We know what we did wrong but we want some feed back from a pro. Thanks, as well as anyone else. Multi suggested watching professional dota vods, ya? I think so. We can sure apply some strats from dota to hon. Just watch the rep. Match ID: 29695478. I think our main problem was picking the solos and trilane carry too early on. Gave away our lineup and made it easy for them to counter pick. Also i think we need to have either riki or gucci on our other solo unless it's in the long lane. Losing the short lane 1v1 is not cool, tho I guess pharoah does rape bubbles in general. Maybe we shoulda switched our trilane to bot and bubbles to top. After fa gets the advantage vs pharoah, behe/myrm can move around the map. Madman ended up free farming regardless so at least we woulda had a buff fa. Needed more burst damage and single target stuns in our lineup. We had nothing to counter-gank pharoah. Once he reached 6 it was free kills on me. But yeah just stick to fp witch/glac/myrm etc. from now on (unless we can get someone baller like hellbringer). We also tend to do much better with melee carries. Also bubbles needed to initiate team fights with blink, silence, ult (even if it's just on 2 people) before they initiated on us. | ||
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Ganfei2
473 Posts
But picking is not my strength so I might be totally wrong. If I am feel free to tell me why you think so. Seems like some misplays in the trilane too, e.g. 3:40 when madman stalks past your ward....coulda just fished him, fissured him from the supports, and raped him. Instead their glacius double taps you. I think the biggest thing was simply being outpicked, due to picking your critical heros too early. Your trilane sucked vs madman. Mymridon isnt bad cause the weed field reveals but you needed longer lasting real disables as opposed to fissure, which just blocks. I think you should have myrm fped, then picked a 600 range disable support + mid, then trilane carry + solo lane or something like that. | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
pharaoh is pretty hard to play against, esp if they pick him last cuz you cant counter it T_T | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On February 14 2011 18:53 alia wrote: Does anyone know of any other DotA streamers on Teamliquid? I keep looking around, but I feel like I'm the only one. i dont know. the games i play (pub stomps) are not worth watching | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 15 2011 06:04 rabidch wrote: i dont know. the games i play (pub stomps) are not worth watching lol, you mean you don't like seeing yourself run around people with 1 hit left worth of hp then picking up the kill? | ||
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StallingHard
144 Posts
Next time you decide to go all melee and throw please inform everyone else. How the hell are you an officer in this clan? Joking around is fun, that's what no stats and public games are for... don't do it in MM and if you do don't fuck with someone else's stats without telling them first. Reported all four of you and banlisted, hope you at least get a warning. | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
Picking: I dislike picking your 3 solos early, you coulda gotten away with your 2/3 picks as myrm/behe + ss. I wouldnt pick fa too early because she is easy to stop in the long run. Early game: You guys could of done more pre 0 scouting. You stood at mid tower when you can roam around a bit on your side freely. Just take safe routes to the hills above top rune for your top lane if you aren't intending to gank before rune spawn. Tri lane did really well getting 2 early kills, you missed a free kill on madman though. When you planted the sentry ward you coulda killed him right there with just a simple behe stun + myrm stun. Bubbles dying at level 2 really cost you the rest of the early game though. You should never be in danger of dying that early vs a pharaoh. If he runs up to you abuse your range and just run back to the tower, when he backs off get a hit in, if he runs up back up. He shouldnt even be able to hit you most of the laning phase with his regular attack unless you are in a bad position. Dev, i didnt really watch you early game outside of one aspect. You should really sell your tangoes and pick up your +6 str item asap vs this line up. You need as much hp as possible and holding your money until treads is not a great idea when they can dive at any time. You died once (although i don't think it would of saved you, but you never know) with 600 in the bank, so you coulda picked it up. Oh, one other thing i noticed was when you ported btm, you ran further into the lane with no vision at all in that area for some time with multiple heroes off the board. That was a death you could have avoided all together. Gucci, Treads over phase boots in these games. You need to survive first, do damage later. You also should of gone volley at level 1 as you didnt use your skeles until level 2. I don't think thats a huge impact though, as i dont think you would have gotten another kill whether you had it or not. I also suggest that if you run fa, try to push towers early before they opposing team can really stop your pushes, if it allows that is. One of the hardest things i ran into was an fa that pushed his trilane non stop because we couldnt clear the waves fast enough. It's something to think about in the future. 10 minute fight, you guys lost 3 for 1, but if bubbles had gone in on his shell surf you might of gotten more. Don't be afraid as bubbles to get into the middle of the fight to hit up your silence aoe. Notable part of the fight at the end was dev ulting, your level 1 ult doesnt do nearly as much as 2 razes, try saving your mana in early team fights for more razes rather than ulting from the sides. You also messed up a raze on pharaoh for the kill, but thats just a misclick rather than an actual error of judgement. The other thing in early game that you guys aren't doing is making fights happen. At one point you have all 5 within range of your own mid tower, but the enemy has 4 at their mid tower. You aren't pressuring them because madman has been free farming for some time by now. If you can't make a fight happen, back up, put pressure on lanes to keep their carry from free farming. Wards. You guys seem to struggle going up against teams that counter ward decently. Try to maximize your wards but placing them in different spots each time you place them. When counter warding their is nothing wrong with counter warding btm rune and then not re-warding it specifically. You can place it in other spots to watch their movements rather than the rune explicitly, and then they will counter ward just a sentry rather than your ward as well. Place wards based on what you need to see, not what people say should be warded. Footlong, you need to farm better when you have time, you have no boots 20+ minutes into the game and you are getting outwarded. Just try to focus on staying alive and getting creep kills now and then and youll be fine. 24 minutes, behe stuns and bubbles follows up really late, that was a really easy double kill into tower. Be attentive and communicate. You guys aren't even in a terrible position right now even though madman just got his bfury at 22 minutes. Still very little presence on you guys trying to get towers. Teamfight at 28, you guys came out badly at the end, but did really well at btm tower right after saving dev + getting kill on madman, then dev you jumped in on witch and died for nothing. behe had striders up and bubbles was in no threat of dying. Myrm showing his liability though, no boots and very low level now. You need to focus on keeping up with the group in levels. Glac is way out leveling myrm and has boots + other small items and is counter warding way way more. Focus on living + killing the creeps you can, you guys are spending too much time running around trying to figure out what to do than actually just doing stuff. 30 minute fight: you guys demolish them after they jack your ancients. You go into push tower seemingly fine, then you instantly lose myrm (who should never be that far forward) and dev dies due to inability to get away from madman. Behe had no mana to fissure at all and bubbles had just used his 2 spells. When you spot a witch slayer in the open like that, throw a long range spell at him (bubbles or behe). To clear waves you should be using soulstealer since his nukes are most efficient for that. Since there was no pressure early madman's really starting to shine in the mid game here. That fight went your way really well then fell apart at the tower due to position issues with myrm (and lack of levels/hp) + bubbles/behe have no interrupts/mana to help vs madman/witch. That leaves ss/fa to fight them solo and due to you guys not having heaps of farm, madman just tore through you. Try to focus more on living first, kill second in situations like that, communicate out (you even pinged witch slayer, then myrm ran up to instantly die from full life). Bubbles shouldn't of cleared the wave either, a silence probably coulda saved your entire teams life. 33 minute: myrm should really be behind the rest of your heroes. He gets rocketed then witch jumps in and ults him (which is complete overkill on a hero that has 400 life, he coulda just stunned and killed him). Bubbles should also have a blink before now. You really need to be your teams initiator at this stage in the game. Without your ability to initiate, you are relying on them to make a mistake (and group up) or for them to go on you guys. Without blink on bubbles, you really don't have that versatility to go on them at the right moment. team fight at base, behe is kind of out of position, only gets to ult on pharaoh. Overall you guys pulled this fight nicely (losing only behe/myrm for aegis + pharaoh/witch). If bubbles had his blink by this fight you probably coulda team killed them due to your ability to move around so quickly. Don't be afraid to sell your 3/3/6 stat items to get your blink. A power supply is much more cost effective than one of your int stat items. 35 minutes: dev almost died to a madman for no reason (thankfully he didn't), but multi, you ulted a bkb'd target... It doesn't do anything, a complete waste of your ult. He popped bkb, you should just back up then since hes running. 37 minutes: fight at top tower is solid, fa/ss live and you kill madman. Bubbles probably could have lived here, but over all the fight went decently for where you guys were at. end of game: Dev got caught without blink up (even though they just queued on you so you were screwed anyway), farmed madman + underfarmed you guys = he chews you to pieces. Most of the game can be attributed to early game. Bubbles dying and you guys not forcing hp items early enough to get some towers + no pressure on madman really kept you behind most of the game. Your support not having any farm doesn't help either, considering you got out counter-warded badly all game. If you run fa in the future, i suggest running a more push style game than a defensive style because you guys faltered when you couldnt force fights. | ||
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foom
United States47 Posts
You signed up for an account just to post that? Sunye's trolling got to you pretty hard, just give it a rest that's what he wants. Too bad you weren't in the game where we insta kicked him at 40 min lol. @alv That was quite an enjoyable read, thanks for sharing! | ||
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alia
United States294 Posts
On February 15 2011 06:04 rabidch wrote: i dont know. the games i play (pub stomps) are not worth watching Not a biggie. PGG streams iCCup public games most of the time. | ||
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