• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:01
CEST 18:01
KST 01:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview6[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?0Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris44Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!15Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again! Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? 2024/25 Off-Season Roster Moves #2: Serral - Greatest Players of All Time
Tourneys
Monday Nights Weeklies LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris 🏆 GTL Season 2 – StarCraft II Team League $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies
Brood War
General
Pros React To: herO's Baffling Game Starcraft at lower levels TvP ASL20 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Easiest luckies way to get out of Asl groups
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group F [IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined! Small VOD Thread 2.0 Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
How Culture and Conflict Imp…
TrAiDoS
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1290 users

Mechabellum - Page 3

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-29 22:50:40
August 29 2025 22:47 GMT
#41
On August 30 2025 05:04 Miragee wrote:
Right now I need to get more solid in late game and get a better read on boards to make the next step I think. This is where I lose most of my matches. I.e. not driving an advantage home.


I have a similar problem (why I wasn't really able to push past 2k MMR yet, aside from just not grinding enough games). Lategame you have so many resources available and so many things can happen that it can be hard to keep track of all the possibilities and sheananigans that could be coming your way. Especially with the limited time you have available to make your decisions. Do I protect from some gutshot war factory? Will there be a sudden abyss? What if someone buys 4 packs of lvl 2 steel balls with range and drain? Need to protect from loose formation crawlers or sudden shield on fangs, wraith with degen out of nowhere, creative beacons and all that jazz.

In most cases in rounds 10+ if the game is close I tend to lose because I run out of time without doing all I could to save myself or I forgot about one of the many ways my opponent could cheese out the victory. Because I'm mostly playing symmetric standard boards my games sadly tend to run longer than usual (but I don't really like playing aggro or asym, feels to me like being at the mercy of RNG gods).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8531 Posts
August 30 2025 09:33 GMT
#42
On August 30 2025 07:47 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2025 05:04 Miragee wrote:
Right now I need to get more solid in late game and get a better read on boards to make the next step I think. This is where I lose most of my matches. I.e. not driving an advantage home.


I have a similar problem (why I wasn't really able to push past 2k MMR yet, aside from just not grinding enough games). Lategame you have so many resources available and so many things can happen that it can be hard to keep track of all the possibilities and sheananigans that could be coming your way. Especially with the limited time you have available to make your decisions. Do I protect from some gutshot war factory? Will there be a sudden abyss? What if someone buys 4 packs of lvl 2 steel balls with range and drain? Need to protect from loose formation crawlers or sudden shield on fangs, wraith with degen out of nowhere, creative beacons and all that jazz.

In most cases in rounds 10+ if the game is close I tend to lose because I run out of time without doing all I could to save myself or I forgot about one of the many ways my opponent could cheese out the victory. Because I'm mostly playing symmetric standard boards my games sadly tend to run longer than usual (but I don't really like playing aggro or asym, feels to me like being at the mercy of RNG gods).


Yeah, same for me. I exclusively played symmetric standard until about 2-3 weeks ago, which makes games tend to run longer. It's hard to keep track of everything on a 9+ round board and consider all the possibilites as you said. It can be hard breaking if you cannot do everything in time or panic and decide for the tech on one unit over the other and it loses you the game. Then you replay the last round, click the other tech and crush the round...

I tried to experiment and splice in some assymetric aggro during the past few weeks and it was actually pretty fun if you get a little bit of a hang of it. It's surprisingly not as RNG as it seems. It's a nice change of pace and I like keeping things fresh and play different stuff in my matches.
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
Monday Night Weekly 1 Season 2
TKL 52
SteadfastSC1
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 456
TKL 52
JuggernautJason23
SteadfastSC 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5397
Sea 2935
Horang2 1725
Shuttle 701
Snow 406
sSak 334
Stork 326
ggaemo 288
Larva 263
Hyuk 253
[ Show more ]
Leta 208
firebathero 193
hero 156
Soulkey 130
PianO 126
Zeus 98
Sea.KH 68
Mind 66
Killer 60
Hyun 55
soO 38
Aegong 36
yabsab 34
Backho 33
Mong 30
Rock 20
Terrorterran 17
Nal_rA 17
HiyA 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
JulyZerg 7
ivOry 6
SilentControl 5
Noble 4
Dota 2
Gorgc6777
qojqva3928
syndereN377
XcaliburYe220
Counter-Strike
fl0m3447
Other Games
hiko816
Lowko592
Hui .299
ArmadaUGS146
QueenE67
Trikslyr54
KnowMe49
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3797
• WagamamaTV497
League of Legends
• TFBlade758
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur23
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 59m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
17h 59m
PiGosaur Monday
1d 7h
LiuLi Cup
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Maru vs SHIN
MaNa vs MaxPax
OSC
3 days
MaNa vs SHIN
SKillous vs ShoWTimE
Bunny vs TBD
Cham vs TBD
RSL Revival
3 days
Reynor vs Astrea
Classic vs sOs
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
GuMiho vs Cham
ByuN vs TriGGeR
Cosmonarchy
4 days
TriGGeR vs YoungYakov
YoungYakov vs HonMonO
HonMonO vs TriGGeR
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Cure vs Bunny
Creator vs Zoun
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Team Hawk vs Team Sziky
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS1
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Maestros of the Game
Sisters' Call Cup
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
Skyesports Masters 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.