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On September 30 2009 08:17 kefkalives wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2009 06:17 CharlieMurphy wrote:On September 29 2009 14:53 kefkalives wrote:On September 29 2009 14:47 Excalibur_Z wrote:On September 29 2009 13:04 CharlieMurphy wrote: It's just retarded how akuma has 2 of the same special move but one is more damage/hits. The super one is basically worthless. I'd be happy if it was even just KKZ or Gorasen. The super one grabs faster and moves faster and has less recovery if it misses. In fact, all supers have these attributes. also you can kara it and make it unescapable. super useless yo! You guys know what I mean, his super bar is better used in just doing EX moves all the time. like the rest of the cast? characters with useful supers... Gen, chun, ryu.... i'm all out of ideas now. sagat ken balrog
a lot of character's supers are useful in particular matchups
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Glad to see 3s character. 3s characters gameplay is the best of the bunch. Remy is the best charge projectile variant. High and low projectile, noncharging dash attack, instant anywhere hit confirm super. Hugo, the best slow grappler. Disgusting corner pressure and fakes. Not sure how much of a nerf the 3s characters will be undergoing from 3s to SSF4.
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dang i cant wait for this.. should be so amazing!!
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United States12235 Posts
On September 30 2009 10:10 [X]Ken_D wrote: Glad to see 3s character. 3s characters gameplay is the best of the bunch. Remy is the best charge projectile variant. High and low projectile, noncharging dash attack, instant anywhere hit confirm super. Hugo, the best slow grappler. Disgusting corner pressure and fakes. Not sure how much of a nerf the 3s characters will be undergoing from 3s to SSF4.
Except neither of those were rumored to be returning =[ I think the rumored characters will provide pretty good representation from 3s, though it's arguable that Urien and Yun would have been better choices.
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On September 30 2009 06:17 CharlieMurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2009 14:53 kefkalives wrote:On September 29 2009 14:47 Excalibur_Z wrote:On September 29 2009 13:04 CharlieMurphy wrote: It's just retarded how akuma has 2 of the same special move but one is more damage/hits. The super one is basically worthless. I'd be happy if it was even just KKZ or Gorasen. The super one grabs faster and moves faster and has less recovery if it misses. In fact, all supers have these attributes. also you can kara it and make it unescapable. super useless yo! You guys know what I mean, his super bar is better used in just doing EX moves all the time. His super is also plain better than most characters' supers. There isn't a character in this game who wouldn't rather use EX moves and FADCs than supers, in any case. When are you going to make an intelligent point?
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On September 30 2009 12:40 MCMcEmcee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2009 06:17 CharlieMurphy wrote:On September 29 2009 14:53 kefkalives wrote:On September 29 2009 14:47 Excalibur_Z wrote:On September 29 2009 13:04 CharlieMurphy wrote: It's just retarded how akuma has 2 of the same special move but one is more damage/hits. The super one is basically worthless. I'd be happy if it was even just KKZ or Gorasen. The super one grabs faster and moves faster and has less recovery if it misses. In fact, all supers have these attributes. also you can kara it and make it unescapable. super useless yo! You guys know what I mean, his super bar is better used in just doing EX moves all the time. There isn't a character in this game who wouldn't rather use EX moves and FADCs than supers, in any case.
Dhalsim, I'd say, but it's debatable.
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Melbourne5338 Posts
fucking imbalanced dhalsim with a super that differs from his ultra. damn conspiracy against a tiny minority of characters with supers that are similar to their ultras, like really its only abel, akuma, blanka, balrog, chunli, cammy, honda, feilong, guile, gouken, bison, ryu, sagat, sakura, zangief.
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yeah pachi you tell em
yo dude i never seen charlie hit an fadc on me
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On September 30 2009 05:47 eMbrace wrote: Apparently, these are the confirmed new characters:
T.Hawk Dee Jay Hakan Juri Adon Cody Dudley Ibuki Makoto Guy
I'm happy to see some from 3rd strike, but honestly, they could of done such a better job.
Yay for Dudley and Makoto. But adding Hugo would be +++++ This is like a SF universe gathering up (except EX series)
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Have all those characters really been confirmed? I though beyond T.Hawk DeeJay and Juri was still pure rumors.
The hype levels around the announcement are fun to see without a doubt though 
I would honestly be disappointed with even more alpha characters.
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Afaik those are definitely unconfirmed as there's no announcement outside of T.Hawk+Juri in the interviews and DeeJay in Famitsu (or was it Arcadia?) I think, plus related videos. Please link if there's information on anyone else though. Around 8 new characters are planned, though that's just an estimate from Ono.
There being no planned arcade release is a pretty big letdown imo though. wtf why is that a good idea? Could they not reuse old cabinets even if a straight software download upgrade is impossible?
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On October 01 2009 04:19 Trumpet wrote:Have all those characters really been confirmed? I though beyond T.Hawk DeeJay and Juri was still pure rumors. The hype levels around the announcement are fun to see without a doubt though  I would honestly be disappointed with even more alpha characters. They aren't confirmed but I think people are lending more credibility to that list released on eventhubs since they have gotten a couple things right so far.
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They should put Skullomania in.
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You can actually combo everyone's super/ultra or at least hit confirm or use it when enemy is in blockstun or something. Akuma can't (only FA).
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On October 01 2009 05:57 CharlieMurphy wrote: You can actually combo everyone's super/ultra or at least hit confirm or use it when enemy is in blockstun or something. Akuma can't (only FA). ok? same with zangief? why are you complaining about a 1 frame startup super that does more damage than some ultras? Are you just doing random fullscreen raging demons?
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United States12235 Posts
Not to mention using c.MK to buffer Demon against any jump-in, giving you a free Super/Ultra.
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On October 01 2009 06:10 anotak wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2009 05:57 CharlieMurphy wrote: You can actually combo everyone's super/ultra or at least hit confirm or use it when enemy is in blockstun or something. Akuma can't (only FA). ok? same with zangief? why are you complaining about a 1 frame startup super that does more damage than some ultras? Are you just doing random fullscreen raging demons? shhhh
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zangief is different. And he can green hand in and then ultra/super or whatever else easy setups that are unavoidable. With akuma you can't wakeup super/ultra or jump in super/ultra, they just jump. And also zangief's specials don't have attack inputs until the end, so there is no risk of landing a jab (blocked or not) and making your shit whiff. lets see you hit zangief out of his specials when you are point blank or even jump away.
I'm not saying akuma's ultra isn't good, because it is. It has it's uses but its far less useful than most other specials.
And don't tell me to practice my timing better or whatever, I am aware of this. because online its a joke with latency for one, and for two its much more difficult to do Down + mk, jab, jab, forward/backward, hk in a split second then just doing hadoken+all punches or whatever. This is my point.
You guys are honestly saying you wouldn't trade one of the raging demons for a shinku hadouken or something else?
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man i wish i was good enough to call online a complete joke
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On October 01 2009 08:46 CharlieMurphy wrote: And don't tell me to practice my timing better or whatever, I am aware of this. because online its a joke with latency for one, and for two its much more difficult to do Down + mk, jab, jab, forward/backward, hk in a split second then just doing hadoken+all punches or whatever. This is my point. The input difficulty(and related latency) cards are really two of the most scrubby arguments you could pull when talking about balance, barring extreme cases.
~omg ex seismo sjc focus dash into ultra is hardderr than shoryuken fadc ultra viper's ultra is so much less usleful than ryuss
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