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Sr18
Profile Joined April 2006
Netherlands1141 Posts
July 23 2007 07:32 GMT
#21
On July 23 2007 14:21 wizardpl wrote:
So now, we have 16 players. I randomly assign opponents. Obviously, there would be 4 stages to the tournament: round of 16, quarterfinals, semi-finals, and finals. What I am wondering, is for example, in SC…typically they have a BO3 up to semi-finals, where they do BO5. But in chess, obviously, there are ties. What would you guys recommend?


Well, I´m not sure if you are familiar with chess tournaments. The large grandmaster tournaments are either (double) round robin style (everbody plays eachother twice, once with black and once with white) or elimination style. Each elimination round consists of several matches (2, 4, 6 etc. As long as both players have the same amount of games with the white pieces it´s ok) where a win is 1 point, a daw a half point. Should the score be tied after all the games have been played, a new series of games will start, but this time with a faster time control. If this series is tied again, a final series of games will start with even faster time controls. If this final series also ends up being tied, a single decisive match will be played where a draw will be considered a win for black and a loss for white. To compensate, the player with the white pieces gets more time on his clock (considering we are already in very fast time control, you could be thinking about 5 minutes for black and 6 minutes for white). Smaller tournaments generally don´t use a knockout formula, but it´s by no means impossible.

With regards to time controls, I would suggest something fast like 15 minutes each without an increment (15-0) with four games per round. For a tie, I would suggest to bring the time controls to 5-0 for the first extra series and 3-0 for the second. You could obviously opt for standard time but I highly doubt that all the players have 4 hours of free time for each game.
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Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-23 07:52:57
July 23 2007 07:43 GMT
#22
Well, I understand what you are saying. What I would for the time control is 15-0 (like you said). For the format, I'd really want to cut down on the number of games (of course, I want everybody to play, but that being said, I want to find a fine balance between time and games). 4 games does seem a good number, but in my opinion, if the games are tied, we should continue game 5,(etc.) with the 15-0. I understand the reason for lowering the time, but that being said, I have witnessed dramatic changes in the quality of play when you lower the time from 15 to 5, and for the most part, I don't want a tightly contested match at 3-2 to end up being won because someone blundered on time...

So...if nobody protests, we will have for each match-up:

- 15-0 time limit = 15 minutes per player, no increments after every move
- 4 game series (1 point for win, 0.5 for draw)
- If series is tied after 4, we continue playing additional games until one player wins regular 15-0 time limit. So instead of starting a whole new series with a different time control we keep on adding games with the same time control.

Everybody thank Sr18 for his contribution.
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
Sr18
Profile Joined April 2006
Netherlands1141 Posts
July 23 2007 07:55 GMT
#23
How many additional games do you suggest after the original series of 4 games ends up being tied? Just two games or another batch of four games? Remember that it has to be an even number of games so that both players get the same amount of games with the white pieces.
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't Park Yeong Min - CJ fighting!
parapsyche
Profile Joined March 2007
United States9 Posts
July 23 2007 08:04 GMT
#24
Add me to the list please! Thanks =] let's make every game a GG~
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
July 23 2007 08:05 GMT
#25
I would like to participate
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jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
July 23 2007 08:09 GMT
#26
I would like to also participate.
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
July 23 2007 08:09 GMT
#27
If you're still considering giving a cash prize, how about you donate that money to charity under the name of the winner? (assuming the winner consents)
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oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2934 Posts
July 23 2007 08:14 GMT
#28
sign me up if theres still room

French defense fighting!
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Owl
Profile Joined April 2005
145 Posts
July 23 2007 09:07 GMT
#29
sign me up if theres room
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
July 23 2007 09:24 GMT
#30
Sing me up.
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LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
July 23 2007 09:34 GMT
#31
any spots left?

if so, add me please.
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Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
July 23 2007 10:31 GMT
#32
There is room for all of you , 2 more players needed. Infinity, nice idea, I'll think about it
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
July 23 2007 10:32 GMT
#33
On July 23 2007 16:55 Sr18 wrote:
How many additional games do you suggest after the original series of 4 games ends up being tied? Just two games or another batch of four games? Remember that it has to be an even number of games so that both players get the same amount of games with the white pieces.


Oh..sorry, haha, I forgot about the fact that both of the players need to play white...so I'd say start with adding 2, and if it's still tied after that, play another 2, etc.
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-23 10:35:51
July 23 2007 10:35 GMT
#34
If there is by some chance 1 spot left, would any of you object to me filling it in? , I'd love to also play.

Edit: Sorry for triple post.
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
nAi.CyrAx
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States122 Posts
July 23 2007 11:25 GMT
#35
Sign me up!!!!!!
5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
July 23 2007 13:05 GMT
#36
If there's still room, I'd like to be in as well.
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Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
July 23 2007 13:11 GMT
#37
PMed you, but signing up here too ^^
Complete the cycle!
GarlicPepper
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States563 Posts
July 23 2007 13:44 GMT
#38
Please add me if there's room
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
July 23 2007 15:48 GMT
#39
I agree with all Sr18 said, especially the cash prize.
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
LegendaryDreams
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada1350 Posts
July 23 2007 16:33 GMT
#40
sign me up if theres room
call me moxie
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