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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
July 15 2022 04:42 GMT
#1201
I got a C5 Heizou on my way to Kazuha. His grouping (or lack of) is pretty painful, and he kinda suffers from some of Keqing's old knockback/stamina problems. His animations are top notch though. His fully charged E has a nice punchy sound too. I'm trying to run him in a taser team, though Sucrose is strictly superior to him here due to range, aoe, and grouping.

I'm still waiting for the pickup everything feature. Mobile's had it since release...
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NereLouise
Profile Blog Joined July 2022
3 Posts
July 15 2022 14:03 GMT
#1202
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4205 Posts
August 08 2022 08:24 GMT
#1203
I’ve been periodically playing this game, I feel like I’ve finally bit into the good parts of this game since I’m farming 4pcs on my main carry.

One thing i gotta give this game props to, is that this summer event is absolutely insane. This is the first genshin event I’ve done, and I cant believe they put so much effort, story, cutscenes, areas, events into a temporary event. I’ll definitely have to pay attention to future events.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
August 24 2022 08:39 GMT
#1204
sumeru 👀
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9571 Posts
August 24 2022 13:04 GMT
#1205
Goddamn Sumeru is absolutely massive, and that is without the desert part...
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
August 24 2022 15:17 GMT
#1206
I've been itching for more exploration (GAA was kinda lacking in that regard), and this definitely hits the spot.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9571 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-25 15:41:20
August 25 2022 15:23 GMT
#1207
+ Show Spoiler [3.0 impressions] +
So far I am very impressed with Sumeru, the slingshot mechanic to move quickly between places high & low and near & far is a great addition. Bonus points to them for not making it be locked behind a dendro character, anyone can use it.

The MSQ Archno Quest was quite interesting and intriguing as well. We've learnt quite a lot about the world and it sets up even more interesting things to come.
I loved the designs of a lot characters we met in 3.0 Alhaitham, Dendro Archon, Collei & Dehya all look fantastic.

I also initially dismissed the little forest folk as inconsequential and generally annoying to deal with due to their naming conventions & weird vocabulary but they'd got some good info on them about some pertinent topics to us.

I also love how much more nuanced the storytelling has become. We can no longer say for sure who is on our side and who is the bad guy here. Everyone is holding their cards close to their chests for now.

Dendro seems to be very compatible with hydro and electro. Currently Tighnari & Collei really love to quicken, aggravate & spread with a lot of electro users. Their bloom with hydro isn't bad either but I'm getting the feeling other characters in the future will do it better than Tighnari & Collei.


I think mihoyo should implement mounts in the future =) the world is becoming too vast to just travel on foot everywhere.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 26 2022 07:59 GMT
#1208
Have a lot of catch-up to do at some point x_X

Not necessarily a bad thing though, I guess.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4205 Posts
August 27 2022 13:25 GMT
#1209
Not gonna lie I'm still trekking through the Chasm. >.< I didnt realize how huge this area was.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
August 29 2022 04:30 GMT
#1210
On August 26 2022 00:23 Latham wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [3.0 impressions] +
So far I am very impressed with Sumeru, the slingshot mechanic to move quickly between places high & low and near & far is a great addition. Bonus points to them for not making it be locked behind a dendro character, anyone can use it.

The MSQ Archno Quest was quite interesting and intriguing as well. We've learnt quite a lot about the world and it sets up even more interesting things to come.
I loved the designs of a lot characters we met in 3.0 Alhaitham, Dendro Archon, Collei & Dehya all look fantastic.

I also initially dismissed the little forest folk as inconsequential and generally annoying to deal with due to their naming conventions & weird vocabulary but they'd got some good info on them about some pertinent topics to us.

I also love how much more nuanced the storytelling has become. We can no longer say for sure who is on our side and who is the bad guy here. Everyone is holding their cards close to their chests for now.

Dendro seems to be very compatible with hydro and electro. Currently Tighnari & Collei really love to quicken, aggravate & spread with a lot of electro users. Their bloom with hydro isn't bad either but I'm getting the feeling other characters in the future will do it better than Tighnari & Collei.


I think mihoyo should implement mounts in the future =) the world is becoming too vast to just travel on foot everywhere.

+ Show Spoiler [3.0 MSQ] +
It was fine, but my god the dream sequence was long. The new "contemplate" mechanic was a decent attempt at something non-combat, though the execution is pretty basic.

I think my biggest complaint about the MSQ this time around is how wonky the pacing is (as is tradition for the MSQ). The dream starts suddenly and ends suddenly. The start I can understand, but the end is less justifiable. Basically nobody else talks about it except for us and Kusanali, and I think the explanation that the populace is too indoctrinated is lazy. It makes it feel like the whole ordeal had no tangible consequences.

I also disagree that the writing is more nuanced. MSQ writing is about as black and white as it gets. Akademia bad, Kusanali good. The world quests are where the writers really get to stretch their legs. But then again, their hit rate on world quests has been very good compared to the MSQ.


+ Show Spoiler [The big world quest] +
It's kind of amusing how we seem to interact with Aranara way more than humans. I think around 75% of my time in the game has been Aranara-quest related.

Aranara are a bit hit or miss. They have "personality", but it's limited because of their way of speaking. The similarity of their names does not help at all. A lot of the individual quests and actions are kinda whatever, but having everything culminate in the festival and getting all the flowers was a really nice way to wrap things up. Now let me equip the damn garland.

Memory stuff was somewhat cliche, somewhat decently executed. I don't love it or hate it.


+ Show Spoiler [End of the Rana world quest] +
That was cool. Didn't think they'd do a vision thing. World quests stay winning.

I also enjoyed the part where you call out the fatui plant. The reveal itself was nothing notable, but they actually let you pick whether you spare or kill. I ended up choosing the more permanent solution just out of curiosity. I suspect it doesn't actually change anything, but the extra freedom is a nice touch.


My Fischl was good before, but she's godlike in this post-dendro world. I've been running Kazuha, Sayu, Dendro MC, Fischl for basically the whole region, and they just absolutely wreck everything except those pesky electro slimes. It's also hard for me to imagine not running Sayu, as Sumeru is so damn big that it takes a lot of time just to get to certain places.

The map is a mess. This has been more and more apparent in recent areas, but the map is a pain in the ass when it comes to the underground areas. And there are a lot of underground areas.

Took me a while to figure out that the forest journal is pretty important, and that you can view it from your inventory. The problem is that we've accumulated quite a lot of junk in the quest tab. I like the idea though - it's pretty handy since the big world quest this time is convoluted as hell. I just want it to be easier to access.
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
September 21 2022 01:01 GMT
#1211
utility wheel when
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9571 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-30 20:22:28
September 30 2022 20:21 GMT
#1212
My brothers in Christ, the Desert is HUGE. + Show Spoiler [3.1 talk] +
It looks kinda medium-sized when compared to Sumeru proper, but this thing has essentially double its map size because there are underground tunnels & inverted pyramids EVERYWHERE. There's also the stone tablet that kinda cockblocks you from doing everything at once... Doing >>Golden Slumber<< gives your slate 2 authority and then after every daily reset you can get +1 more authority doing specific world quests at Araru Village.
Man, Scara piloting a Gundam gave me chills, but his backstory was a little wierd. First the Electro Archon discards him and he doesn't snap. Then the blacksmith and he also doesn't snap. Finally a little child dies who made a promise with him and he finally snaps? What gives? Kinda weird to be mad at a kid for dying, lol... I also assume that child was one of Kazuha's ancestors judging by the hairstyle & color.
I'll just assume its the "rule of 3" at work here...

If I understood the cinematics that played, Kusanali = Rhukka but she lost/sacrificed her powers to seal the Abyss/withering, so she is the original Archon. I thought in 3.0 she could've been a reincarnation or a successor to Rhukka (daughter) because of the cycle of reincarnation in Hinduism but I'm glad that's not the case. I'm assuming that also put unimaginable stress on her mind and a child's body could not hold an adult's mind? so she forgot who she was, or the trauma was so great. If you guys did the quest in Liyue, we learnt that Gouba also went through something like this LOL. The god of stoves & hearths used to be quite the chad back in his day...
There is still the line "World [...] forget me." we heard inside the Irminsul, I wonder what the full line is.

It's also pretty on the nose that Cyno/Dehya/Al-haitham are all connected to King Deshret. Cyno has the hood of the high priest and is connected to the Egyptian Anubis, Al-haitham's eyes looks just like the mural depicting King Deshret and him being a scribe would make give him a connection to... Thoth? that Dehya's nickname is "Flame Mane" strongly suggesting a connection with cats so... Bastet I'm assuming? I wonder where all this is going...
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
October 03 2022 05:16 GMT
#1213
Done with exploration. Odds and ends left.

+ Show Spoiler [Story quests] +
Sucked. Progressed way too quickly for anything to stick. Eremite mercenary ambushes are everywhere it seems, and nobody bats an eye. Nahida gets "captured" and we kinda just shrug and move on. Why exactly did we let a random kid tag along again? Oh right, we needed someone to interrupt and cause a scene so Dehya could do some self-sacrifice that doesn't actually happen.

Traveler should be capable of brute forcing their way through all of this shit, but doesn't for reasons. We've literally fought gods and harbingers. Ah well, plot.


+ Show Spoiler [World quests] +
Better than the story quests. Abrasive researcher got old pretty quickly, and did a 180 pretty fast in the end scene. Was a bit too sudden to be believable, but whatever.

The lore is... interesting. The characters would have you believe that the previous Eremite kingdoms were grand and noble. The text you get suggests otherwise.


+ Show Spoiler [New areas] +
Cool, with caveats.

The desert is a nice change of pace from the rainforest, but it's one-note. There's basically just vast expanses of dunes, which isn't all that interesting when you have to traverse it a bunch of times.

Tons of underground areas that link up with each other. Problem is the map is still unable to handle any of it. I get so fucking lost in the labyrinths because they all look the same. Areas with multiple elevators are particularly bad. Pins aren't even useful because I need to know the exact route to reach certain locations, and it's not always obvious.


The hyperbloom achievement was painful. While the superconduct achievement was pretty bad due to how little damage it does, I could at least come up with strategies to do it through number crunching. Hyperbloom requires more setup, and the targeting is RNG.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9571 Posts
December 08 2022 13:29 GMT
#1214
Wow, the Trading Card Game is actually fun. Big plus is that it is all earnable in-game, no real-world money required (for once).
I kinda feel like summons are broken lol. They do so much damage with elemental reactions...
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
December 09 2022 15:36 GMT
#1215
Summons don't seem that strong IMO. Constant elemental application is good, but getting set up takes a lot of resources, and swapping tends to throw a wrench in the works. Most of them also don't last that long, and being constrained to end of turn actions feels very limiting. But I'm also bad so who knows.

I enjoyed using the gamblers set against hilichurls - chaining 5 of em in a row is very satisfying.

Game's pretty fun at the moment, though we'll see if it holds up in the long run. My biggest gripe is how long everything takes. I feel I spend most of my time waiting for some animation to complete, and there doesn't seem to be a queue for most actions, which is frustrating.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9571 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-20 18:46:17
December 20 2022 18:23 GMT
#1216
So, anyone running some interesting decks? I started with the vanilla:
Diluc + Sucrose + Kaeya, then transitioned into
Keqing + Collei + Fishl
now I'm running Yoiyaka OTK: Ayaka + Yoimiya + Fatui Pyro Agent (tried Xingqiu instead and it worked as well)
and for the future I'm building a Noelle Sweeper team (Noelle + X + X)
furthermore I've seen people cheesing NPCs with summons from Fishl + Rhodeia of Loch + X

For human opponents Anemo units are pretty good with swapping on swirl. Can really throw a wrench into other players' game plans. Not so much for NPCs because they switch active characters after every attack anyway.

Here's my Yoiyaka OTK deck: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Basically you start with Yoimiya round 1, get ready for the huge burst in round 3 by setting up Big Paimon, Leiben, Timmy etc. Round 2 you cast Yoimiya's ultimate, put on Gamber's set on Ayaka make sure you have Minty Meat Rolls and on turn 3: you OTK everything with Ayaka's basic attacks (when you switch to her, all her basic attacks turn into cryo and with Yoimiya's burst active, you basically combo melt everything and regain +2 omni dice from Gambler's set on every kill, while mint rolls lower the cost of every basic attack by -1 die for the whole turn.
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blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
December 20 2022 23:26 GMT
#1217
I had no idea what to expect when I heard it was announced but I'm pretty impressed by that card game, all the mechanics seem like they're put together pretty well into a clean package instead of feeling like a mix of gimmicks (at least from the little I've watched). There's almost no chance I'm actually going to play it since I have so little free time and I've never really wanted to play the base game myself, but I'll be putting on a video or stream or something about the card game in the background or over a lunch break every now, and checking in to see if and how it gets updated.

Although my feelings on it could all be just because I've been missing out on card games for a long time from being burned out on Magic and being so beyond tired of how Pokemon cards/sets are designed for a couple generations. Ashes: Reborn has some similar mechanics going on as... checks name "Genius Invokation" like having a character and rolling dice each round to see what your resources are, then use abilities and play cards that let you summon stuff, might be worth checking out if you're into GI and don't want to get into Pokemon. Or, if you know anyone who's into Ashes or Pokemon and has any interest in base GI, I can totally see this getting them to hop in.
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
habibizainwala
Profile Joined December 2022
1 Post
Last Edited: 2022-12-25 19:46:45
December 25 2022 17:57 GMT
#1218
Mod edit

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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
April 24 2023 05:38 GMT
#1219
who gonna play honkai
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
April 24 2023 18:22 GMT
#1220
No interest. I've been following Wuthering because I'm a huge fan of PGR but it looking more and more like a Genshin clone is a big downer.
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