I must have missed something because don't see buffs for Ningguan. Quick thoughts:

Normal, Charged and Plunging Attack DMG will be increased by 1.39% of Max HP is insane. Even for a fairly normal 20k HP, that's an extra 278 damage per hit for a fast moveset. Better than having an innate crescent pike buff. Stone stele buff damage is just a straight up buff, but it doesn't resolve that resonance damage by Zhongli alone is locked away by getting constellation 1. The Planet Befall damage is strange order of wording but basically what was given as Passive Talent 2 is now an innate damage of the Q attack. Adjustment to hold E abilityis that it will now create a stone stele if max stone stele hasn't been reached and the increased resistance to interruption when casting, which was complaint. The changes to the shield is a proposal to all shields

Changes to Geo Elemental Mechanics has taken away increased resistance to interruption. Perhaps it never worked properly. The increases Attack DMG by 15 now applies to all characters, not just the geo character. There is now finally a way to reduce Geo resistance.

Spazer

Canada8036 Posts

December 19 2020 19:16 GMT

#343

That's a pretty big change to geo shields. Makes a lot more sense.

I assume the ning buffs are incidental due to the geo resonance changes? She's probably most affected by the geo RES decrease, being a catalyst user.

Slaughter

United States20255 Posts

December 19 2020 20:19 GMT

#344

Will help my c6 Ningguang slap even harder.

kyarisan

United States347 Posts

December 20 2020 20:20 GMT

#345

I've just hit AR 45, and there's something I'm unsure about with domain farming. For instance, the Stone Chamber domain has Noblesse Oblige and Bloodstained Chivalry, 5-stars in chambers 2 and 3. If I didn't care about the extra Mora received for the third Chamber, is there any redeeming value to doing the third Chamber as opposed to the second one for the purpose of artifact hunting? Most of my characters are still level 70 so if I don't need to do the third one I would much rather do the second. But, I just don't want to waste my resin on inferior loot... It's just that everything on the screen, side from the Mora, is the same, and it just doesn't seem worth it just for the 325 extra Mora.

Harris1st

Germany7326 Posts

December 20 2020 20:53 GMT

#346

On December 21 2020 05:20 kyarisan wrote:
I've just hit AR 45, and there's something I'm unsure about with domain farming. For instance, the Stone Chamber domain has Noblesse Oblige and Bloodstained Chivalry, 5-stars in chambers 2 and 3. If I didn't care about the extra Mora received for the third Chamber, is there any redeeming value to doing the third Chamber as opposed to the second one for the purpose of artifact hunting? Most of my characters are still level 70 so if I don't need to do the third one I would much rather do the second. But, I just don't want to waste my resin on inferior loot... It's just that everything on the screen, side from the Mora, is the same, and it just doesn't seem worth it just for the 325 extra Mora.

The last stage has guaranteed drops of 5* while earlier stages have the chance of drops.

kyarisan

United States347 Posts

December 20 2020 21:08 GMT

#347

Thanks man 😊 so I guess I need to gear up a little more as that floor is currently shredding me.

Another question about artifacts. As I'm still working toward having my preferred artifact sets, is it more important to have the right set, but the wrong stats? Or are the stats more important? My impression is that it might depend on which set bonus you're looking to use, but I just wasn't sure if it could make sense as a practical matter to just level up some other artifacts that gave me the energy recharge or crit rate main stats that I'm looking for.

EDIT: I don't feel like I'm high enough AR to optimize substats yet, I'm honestly just happy if a Gladiator's is giving me the right main stat to begin with. I got 3 Gladiator's last night that were all def%.

Spazer

Canada8036 Posts

December 20 2020 21:39 GMT

#348

Run coop if you're undergeared.

Depends on the goal, the set bonus, and how OCD you are.

For support focused sets like VV, none of the stats actually matter if all you're trying to do is buff your main dps. You can run Noblesse like this if you're concerned about time/resin/budget (though it wastes the 2-set bonus a bit). Of course, you can farm more ideal pieces to upgrade later.

For characters where stats matter, main stat trumps everything, but there will come a point when substats matter. For instance, a helm is the only artifact that gives you crit rate/dmg as a main stat, so if you need both and can't get it from your character/weapon, it's gonna have to come from substats.

I wouldn't bother leveling artifacts with non-ideal main stats. You'll learn very quickly that artifact xp comes at a premium.

kyarisan

United States347 Posts

December 20 2020 23:00 GMT

#349

Sorry, I think I may have confused my point by typing substats instead of stats... I edited the post to make it clearer. Basically for example: if my Gladiator's or BC are giving me the wrong main stat, but between my Berserkers and Soujouners, I do get the main stat I want, is it worth leveling those inferior artifact sets instead, or should I just not even bother and focus on farming a better main stat on the preferred artifacts?

Or I guess the question I'm truly asking is, will this help me enough until I find the artifact stats I'm actually looking for, or does the inefficiency of lacking the right set bonus impede me too much?

EDIT: Also about coop. I would like to run coops but a while back when everyone was getting their accounts hacked, I've been afraid to do them because people were suggesting that they were pretty much hacked shortly after doing one (PS5 btw).

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

December 20 2020 23:43 GMT

#350

I'm not sure about PS5 because I know some consoles and some games/servers had issues with IPs - IIRC Rainbow Six Siege has an issue with the Microsoft servers where somehow people are able to pry your player ID and IP address from the server which allowed people to DDOS (but not get access to your account).

With that said, the co-op thing is probably a big sham: https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/kg3goz/psa_what_is_going_on_with_mihoyos_security_and/

With regards to leveling artifacts, if you're pretty sure it helps you clear a domain or abyss then it might be worth it, otherwise despite there being an 80% exp recycle it's still a 20% exp loss, so it's probably not ideal. I have to admit I fed stuff into less-efficient artifacts earlier on just to make sure I could clear stuff, though, so I personally can't just say "don't do it."

Slaughter

United States20255 Posts

December 20 2020 23:44 GMT

#351

I think I heard PS users are pretty safe from hacking because they have to go Sony's security to get your account which is better (because its tied to your PS account or w/e?)

Spazer

Canada8036 Posts

December 20 2020 23:54 GMT

#352

Ah. If you have existing sets and they're decent, there's no point rushing to replace them with suboptimal pieces. Not like the berserker/soujourner bonuses are bad to begin with.

I don't believe anyone's shown actual evidence that coop is insecure. Just because they say it was coop doesn't mean it's true. Account purchasing, an already compromised email account, and password reuse tend to be the main culprits in these sorts of cases.

Latham

9588 Posts

December 21 2020 04:53 GMT

#353

+ Show Spoiler [next character banner] +

Bennett should be easy to roll here, if you don't have him yet at C1. New update can now be downloaded and is +/- 7GBs
As always if you're unsure about the 5*, wait for reviews or just roll because he is your husbando

As for artifact farming - you should transition from the sojourner/berserker/gladiator artifacts but don't force it too hard. Don't go immediately for +20 golds, +16 purples can give you good mileage as well as long as they're good sets, good main stat rolls and good substat rolls.
Someone posted a YT video a few pages back explaining that going from +16 to +20 takes as much resources as going from +0 to +16 so yeah... that's the real endgame grind. Legendaries with right mainstat and properly rolled substats.

Spazer

Canada8036 Posts

December 21 2020 06:54 GMT

#354

Easy to roll hah. When I rolled for Xingqiu I ended up with a C1 Noelle and C4 Sucrose. Unfortunately, there's no guarantee for specific 4*s.

Slaughter

United States20255 Posts

December 21 2020 06:59 GMT

#355

Yea I went hard for Beidou and only got 1 and 6 Ningguangs lol. She is one of my primary DPS now so it worked out but with three 4s on a banner plus spooks it can be a pain.

Latham

9588 Posts

December 21 2020 07:49 GMT

#356

Any1 here has Sucrose built up? Is she just a discount Venti or actually decent subDPS or other kind of utility? How many constellations needed for her to be decent?

abuse

Latvia1945 Posts

December 21 2020 10:17 GMT

#357

On December 21 2020 16:49 Latham wrote:
Any1 here has Sucrose built up? Is she just a discount Venti or actually decent subDPS or other kind of utility? How many constellations needed for her to be decent?

lol I swear, since day 1, whenever I see discussions about Genshin, this exact question has been a major point of discussion.
Overall the opinions are 50/50.