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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-27 14:57:41
March 27 2019 14:54 GMT
#1


The Hype is real!

Please save us from the Anthems of this world

Hopefully more information tomorrow at PAX East


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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-28 21:30:28
March 28 2019 19:07 GMT
#2
Borderlands 1 : GOTY Edition
Release Date : April 3
with numerous improvements... it is not coming out on PC though.

EDIT : turns out it is a free upgrade for PC on Steam.

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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
March 29 2019 10:10 GMT
#3
Borderlands 1 and 2 get a remastered with all DLC's included

Info on Borderlands 3:

Borderlands 3: Everything we know so far
By Omri Petitte, Tyler Wilde, PC Gamer 12 hours ago

It's official. Here's everything we know about Borderlands 3's release date, setting, characters, and more.

Borderlands 3 was one of the worst-kept secrets in videogames, but as of the Gearbox panel at PAX East 2019, it's not a secret anymore. Check out the announcement trailer above, and below find every scrap of info we've gathered about Borderlands 3 so far.

For our full breakdown of the trailer, head here.

What is the Borderlands 3 release date?
There's no official release date, but an earnings call from publisher Take-Two points to a possible release before Fall 2019.

Gearbox has kept silent on a specific release date, even though it was entertaining ideas as far back as 2012. Publisher Take-Two seems keen on a potential 2018-2019 launch window, as suggested by an investors call report from March 2017. In it, CEO Strauss Zelnick included a “highly anticipated new title from one of 2K's biggest franchises” as part of the publisher's fiscal 2019 outlook, a span of months ranging between October 2018 and September 2019.

Zelnick's comments appeared again in subsequent reports in August, November, and February 2018, increasing the likelihood of a solidified timeframe. But keep in mind Borderlands 3 wasn't named specifically, so Zelnick could've been referring to another game. And those plans could've changed in the past year.

Still, Borderlands 3 is a strong contender for Take-Two's plans, especially considering the known quantities of the studio's annual sports releases, the juggernaut omnipresence of Grand Theft Auto 5, and the radio silence from Steam sale darlings XCOM, Civilization, and BioShock (the latter's recent stirrings notwithstanding). It has until fall 2019 to make that window.

Borderlands 3 'Mask of Mayhem' teaser

The teaser above, dubbed 'Mask of Mayhem', is full of imagery from the series, which gives us lots of clues about what's to come. Gearbox's Randy Pitchford said that the Handsome Jack mask is just a troll, though. "He's dead."

Who's in Borderlands 3?
It's a reunion. Lilith, Maya, Brick, Mordecai and Zer0 are in the trailer. Rhys, from Tales from the Borderlands, shows up. Tiny Tina is now less tiny. Marcus, Ellie, Sir Hammerlock, and, of course, Claptrap make appearances, too.

Gearbox hasn't confirmed the names of the new Vault Hunters, though this leak has them as Moze, Amara, Zane, and Flak.

What is Borderlands 3's setting?


Not Pandora! Well, also Pandora. But based on the trailer, it looks like we're heading to a big city, and there's a jungle spot, too, so it won't all be desert. There's a lot of focus on the word 'worlds,' plural.

We break down the whole trailer here.

Is Claptrap actually good or actually bad?
Both.

What sort of loot will be in Borderlands 3?


Expect the usual bevy of wacky weapons and bizarre effects—including a gun that walks, as seen in the trailer.

Elon Musk's flamethrower oughtta be there, too. In January, Musk attracted Pitchford's attention when he debuted a novelty flamethrower available to the public from his Boring Company, joking on Twitter that the flamethrower was sentient and came with a free cryptocurrency blockchain. Pitchford then declared the flamethrower's inclusion in the next Borderlands game, requesting Musk to write the flavor text. Musk agreed. "Boring Flamethrower" already smacks of a cheekily named legendary drop, and sentient guns aren't anything new—this is the same series that gave us a yelling SMG—so keep an eye out for it.

Other Borderlands 3 details


Around 90 percent of Gearbox is working on Borderlands 3. Pitchford told a PAX West panel audience that the studio was full steam ahead on a project “most of you guys want us to be working on.” Since no one was brave enough to shout out “Colonial Marines 2,” that project is most definitely Borderlands.
Borderlands 2 and The Pre-Sequel are getting free 4K texture packs
Gearbox saw a few notable departures, including writer and Scooter voice actor Mikey Neumann. Borderlands 2 lead writer Anthony Burch also left the studio in 2015. Claptrap voice actor David Eddings moved on to Rooster Teeth last year.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
March 29 2019 10:11 GMT
#4
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
March 29 2019 11:40 GMT
#5
Guns with legs?! Shut up and take my eridium!
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
March 29 2019 13:09 GMT
#6
Rumoured release Fall/ Winter 2019!!

More on that in week. Apparently there is some sort of announcement planned for 03. April on their homepage
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
March 29 2019 17:36 GMT
#7
Probably not a popular opinion, but if i watch a trailer and can't tell if it's a new game or the first one released/modded other than by seeing a gun with legs run around.. That's not a good start.

I have combined probably 300+ hours in Borderlands, this one just seems lazy - judging by the admittedly very little they've showed so far.
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Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
March 29 2019 20:47 GMT
#8
Did the new graphics, new characters, new enemies, and new abilities not give it away? must have watched a different video than I did.
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-29 21:44:55
March 29 2019 21:44 GMT
#9
Yeah, the grey rocks are on an entirely different level. Not at all like in Borderlands 1. Or 2. Or pre-sequel. You're describing a DLC at best. That's where you get a new character, enemies and abilities. That's not a new game worth touting a horn for.

It might very well be that there will be explosions of creativity on april third, but to get hyped based on that trailer? lol.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
March 29 2019 23:53 GMT
#10
On March 30 2019 06:44 m4ini wrote:
Yeah, the grey rocks are on an entirely different level. Not at all like in Borderlands 1. Or 2. Or pre-sequel. You're describing a DLC at best. That's where you get a new character, enemies and abilities. That's not a new game worth touting a horn for.

It might very well be that there will be explosions of creativity on april third, but to get hyped based on that trailer? lol.


If it ain't broke... I actually adore Borderlands 2 graphical design and would be seriously disappointed if they changed it. All that needed smoothing out there was a bit of the UX (gathering stuff from the ground mostly).
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13876 Posts
March 30 2019 00:05 GMT
#11
Even if they did nothing but continue on the trajectory of the recent games it would still be a lot better than its competition this year. Shooters haven't had a great track record this year and borderlands haven't been well replicated in its culture of being a loot based shooter. the DLC's have been really good as well.

I really liked the story in the pre sequel and 2 wasn't bad for the type of cell shading. I could see 3 being an easy game to make better with more silly-crazy stuff like the walking gun.
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BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
March 30 2019 05:10 GMT
#12
Honestly I feel like most of the hype for this is based off it not being fucking BR. Which I have no problem with. I mean, I was excited regardless considering how much I loved playing through the first two. Really looking forward to what else they have to release for Borderlands 3!
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1917 Posts
March 30 2019 12:27 GMT
#13
On March 30 2019 14:10 BretZ wrote:
Honestly I feel like most of the hype for this is based off it not being fucking BR. Which I have no problem with. I mean, I was excited regardless considering how much I loved playing through the first two. Really looking forward to what else they have to release for Borderlands 3!

Heh, now that you mention it, Borderlands style wacky randomized weapons could probably lend themselves to some fun BR style gameplay.

Maybe it could be a DLC sometime later once they've first nailed the actual proper Borderlands experience.
Ryzel
Profile Joined December 2012
United States528 Posts
March 30 2019 12:32 GMT
#14
I didn’t own anything past base borderlands 2, so getting pre-sequel + every single DLC on steam for $14 just now made me pretty happy.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-30 14:18:06
March 30 2019 14:16 GMT
#15
Trailer looked sick!
My dream would be a Switch release for this. (But they could start by porting the older games)
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
March 30 2019 16:53 GMT
#16
Please for all that is Holy, dont be an Epic Store exclusive...
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
March 30 2019 18:26 GMT
#17
Please don't be a battle royal please don't be a battle royal please don't be a battle royal
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
March 30 2019 19:38 GMT
#18
On March 31 2019 03:26 FFW_Rude wrote:
Please don't be a battle royal please don't be a battle royal please don't be a battle royal


I wouldn't be worried about that. I think they know very well that no one really wants a BLBR.
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riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3392 Posts
March 30 2019 21:23 GMT
#19
Borderlands 2 is gonna be hard to top for me. But yea, about damn time!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-31 16:38:00
March 31 2019 16:37 GMT
#20
I'm pretty impressed how well Gearbox has supported Borderlands1 the last few years when its been making almost no money. It cost them time and resources to move Borderlands1 from GameSpy over to Steam a few years ago when GameSpy died. And now, Steam users are getting a free Remastered upgrade version of Borderlands1.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
April 01 2019 07:57 GMT
#21
I would be completely fine with a little bit more polished visuals, tons of loot, great story with developed characters (handsome jack <3 ) and some new game plus mode or sth as endgame. I don't need every game I play take 500 hours to finish
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
April 01 2019 08:02 GMT
#22
On classes:

First up on the list is the new siren, Amara. It seems that at least some of her abilities will be melee focused, but she will also have a phase lock to keep enemies in place. An interesting ground-pound ability can also be seen in the trailer. Zane is known as the Operative, and is currently the one that is the most mysterious. The trailer showed off his hologram duplicate ability, but that was it.

One of the most interesting Vault Hunters has to be Flak, the Beastmaster. He can control different pets, each with their own unique abilities. If the reveal trailer is to be believed, then he can summon a Skag, a Spiderant, and what appears to be a modified Bullymong that has a robot arm. Last on the list is Moze, who can call down a mech to control. What’s great about her ability is that other players can hop on the back to control a mounted turret in co-op play


Apparently there is some hidden release date in the trailer which points to October 2019
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-01 19:02:02
April 01 2019 19:01 GMT
#23
Honesty, this might be the straw that breaks the camel's back for me...
Epic store has some games I don't mind waiting a year longer to play but getting them on steam like Ashen, Metro: Exodus and Hades, but Borderlands 3... I just might cave in and DL the epic store launcher TT.TT

I mean if and only if Borderlands 3 will be a good game. I'm always willing to wait a week or 2 after release for the non-paid non-shill reviews to pop up, but waiting a whole year for a steam release... woah THAT would be soul crushing.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-01 19:59:57
April 01 2019 19:59 GMT
#24
On April 02 2019 04:01 Latham wrote:
I mean if and only if Borderlands 3 will be a good game. I'm always willing to wait a week or 2 after release for the non-paid non-shill reviews to pop up, but waiting a whole year for a steam release... woah THAT would be soul crushing.

it would not surprise me at all if Pitchford is using the threat of Epic exclusivity and the controversy that goes with it to increase the profile of Borderlands 3. And then, he'll turn around and have it on Steam.

Keep in mind Pitchford's love of illusion and deception as a "learning tool".
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
April 01 2019 21:17 GMT
#25
its looking more and more like Borderlands 3 is an EPIC Exclusive.



If Pitchford is trolling us then damn, he is gangsta. He is as gangsta as Marcus Kincaid.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
April 01 2019 22:06 GMT
#26
Today was April 1st so...
But that guy did test the waters with a tweet a few days/weeks ago with something along the lines of "happy to be extending our partnership with Epic for another year" or so...
so...
Fuck I dunno.
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KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
April 01 2019 22:07 GMT
#27
I really hope it is just more of Pitchford's slight of hand stuff!! He thinks he's got such a great sense of humor...but he doesn't!! But I guess it is kind of funny in an awkward way! LOL
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
April 02 2019 01:46 GMT
#28
I must say I'm with Jeremy on this one. If it comes out as Epic exclusive I'll just wait a year to get it on Steam instead (probably as a great deal GOTY version to boot).
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byte-Curious
Profile Joined October 2018
Mexico107 Posts
April 02 2019 09:11 GMT
#29
I played BL1 way back when it came out and never touched BL2. Do you reckon I need to replay BL1 in order to understand what's going on in BL2?
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
April 02 2019 09:21 GMT
#30
On April 02 2019 18:11 byte-Curious wrote:
I played BL1 way back when it came out and never touched BL2. Do you reckon I need to replay BL1 in order to understand what's going on in BL2?


Story-wise? Not really. It has its own story with an absolutely terrific villain to boot.
But character-wise, yes, to refresh your memory of who is who. I dunno if names like Lilith Mordrecai Brick and Roland still ring a bell to you? They were the original vault hunters and they come back for some cameos and as supporting characters.

But BL2 is fantastic. The Pre-sequel however... can be argued over , but I still <3 Athena.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
April 02 2019 10:00 GMT
#31
On April 02 2019 18:21 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2019 18:11 byte-Curious wrote:
I played BL1 way back when it came out and never touched BL2. Do you reckon I need to replay BL1 in order to understand what's going on in BL2?


Story-wise? Not really. It has its own story with an absolutely terrific villain to boot.
But character-wise, yes, to refresh your memory of who is who. I dunno if names like Lilith Mordrecai Brick and Roland still ring a bell to you? They were the original vault hunters and they come back for some cameos and as supporting characters.

But BL2 is fantastic. The Pre-sequel however... can be argued over , but I still <3 Athena.


I don't think you need to replay BL1 to enjoy BL2 at all. It's cool to see returning characters but if you're really into it you can just read up about BL1 protagonists and the story on the wiki or something. Personally I played BL2 before BL1 and never had an issue with that (I only vaguely knew about BL1 characters).
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-02 11:30:23
April 02 2019 11:26 GMT
#32
With the Remasters and GOTY Editions and stuff I would definitely recommend playing through all the games (again) until BL 3 releases.
Apparently Borderlands on steam is fully riding the hype wave with more concurrent players than ever

EDIT: Just checked on Steam: The handsome Collection incluceds BL 2 and Pre-Sequel with every DLC, Skin, Weapon and whatnot for ~15 bucks. Can't go wrong there
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-02 12:42:56
April 02 2019 12:41 GMT
#33
Yeah I think I got a whooping -91% discount on everything total... its incredible. I had the base games, but the DLCs and the skins were a nice touch.

Also, is anyone worried that this doesn't have a steam page yet? Even if they say COMING IN 2020, I'd feel much safer if the game had an actual store page to wishlist...
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
April 02 2019 13:03 GMT
#34
On April 02 2019 21:41 Latham wrote:
Yeah I think I got a whooping -91% discount on everything total... its incredible. I had the base games, but the DLCs and the skins were a nice touch.

Also, is anyone worried that this doesn't have a steam page yet? Even if they say COMING IN 2020, I'd feel much safer if the game had an actual store page to wishlist...


Yeee... there might be an issue here. Rumoured to be an Epic exclusive and all that. Rumoured release is 13. September

More on that hopefully tomorrow
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-02 15:27:07
April 02 2019 15:11 GMT
#35
i made a Borderlands video.


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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
April 02 2019 15:54 GMT
#36
On April 02 2019 21:41 Latham wrote:
Also, is anyone worried that this doesn't have a steam page yet? Even if they say COMING IN 2020, I'd feel much safer if the game had an actual store page to wishlist...


Well, Bloodlines 2 is coming out March 2020 and you can already pre-order it on Steam...

This is troubling indeed.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
April 02 2019 18:07 GMT
#37
Borderlands 1 : Game Of The Year Edition

available for download on Steam at 10 AM PST// 1 PM EST Wednesday, April 3.

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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-03 03:40:09
April 03 2019 03:39 GMT
#38
Every time I think about playing some BL2 again I get that kick in the teeth reminder that I'd have to deal with the slag centric endgame again. Barf.
BL1 I'll definitely give another go though.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-03 13:37:22
April 03 2019 13:14 GMT
#39
Official Information Released By Gearbox

EPIC Store For Digital PC

twitter

Youtube Trailer

Release date is September 13, 2019
Vault Hunter Info... and more...

https://borderlands.com/en-US/welcome/

Worldwide Gameplay Reveal May 1

$60 USD or $100 USD Are Your Main Choices
Borderlands Standard Edition : base game $60 USD
Borderlands Super Deluxe Edition: Base Game + Season's Pass : $100 USD. The "$100 special price" ends September 17.

4 New Vault Hunters
Out to save the galaxy in Borderlands 3 are four all-new Vault Hunters, each more customizable than all their counterparts from previous games combined. Moze is a gunner who can digistruct and pilot a mech. Amara is a siren who can summon and smash enemies with ethereal fists. FL4K is a beastmaster whose pets prey upon bandits. And Zane is an operative who uses gadgets to cause chaos on the battlefield.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-03 13:22:58
April 03 2019 13:22 GMT
#40
On April 02 2019 22:03 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2019 21:41 Latham wrote:
Yeah I think I got a whooping -91% discount on everything total... its incredible. I had the base games, but the DLCs and the skins were a nice touch.

Also, is anyone worried that this doesn't have a steam page yet? Even if they say COMING IN 2020, I'd feel much safer if the game had an actual store page to wishlist...


Yeee... there might be an issue here. Rumoured to be an Epic exclusive and all that. Rumoured release is 13. September

More on that hopefully tomorrow



Well, shit
Leaked release date was right. That mean Epic Store exclusive is probably right as well. Still no Steam page, too

Epic is really nailing it these days
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
April 03 2019 13:24 GMT
#41
ya, when you pre order a digital PC edition ... its Epic.
not a single steam logo in sight.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1917 Posts
April 03 2019 13:31 GMT
#42
Is it a possibility that there's some kind of negotiation going on with Valve?

If it's an Epic exclusive, what's the smart timing and way to get the info going? I guess some leaked rumors might soften the actual backlash, but at some point you have to confirm it and it's probably better to get that out of the way some time before the release.The earlier they release the info, the more momentum Epic store has and the more momentum Epic store has, the better launch the game is likely going to have as an exclusive.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
April 03 2019 14:41 GMT
#43
Epic exclusive until April 2020 according to official press release.

Which is good, means if i pick it up, i'll have a working, patched and probably expanded game.

Borderlands 3 will release September 13 on the Epic Games Store, which will be the only place to buy it on PC until April 2020. After that six month exclusivity period, it'll release "on additional PC digital storefronts," according to a press release from 2K.



https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/borderlands-3-pc-is-releasing-exclusively-on-the-epic-store-in-september/


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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 03 2019 14:48 GMT
#44
Epic exclusivity sucks, I have nothing against the platform but I feel like they should leverage every platform.

However I unfortunately have to buy on console for my brother so this doesn't make a difference to me.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 03 2019 15:00 GMT
#45
Epic is throwing money around to get exclusives and I don't think any publisher or developer has any fondness for Valve. And from all reports, Epic's store moves games just fine.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13876 Posts
April 03 2019 18:37 GMT
#46
I would belive that when it drops on steam it'll have more dlc packed on or even a sale.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
April 03 2019 19:37 GMT
#47
The Borderlands1 improvements are nice. Mini-map with personal waypoints, nice graphic improvement, cleaner interface. Managing inventory is much better. Managing multiplayer games is a lot more similar to Borderlands 2.

At this point, I'd say Borderlands1:GOTY Edition is one of the best $10 games I've ever purchased.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
April 04 2019 00:52 GMT
#48
BL3 most expensive edition: $250. Madness...
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
April 04 2019 01:22 GMT
#49
On April 04 2019 09:52 Manit0u wrote:
BL3 most expensive edition: $250. Madness...


Depends entirely on what you get (i haven't checked).

What i can say is that i'm a bit miffed that i didn't buy the division 2 phoenix shield edition (£220), because i wasn't sure about the quality of the figurine. In hindsight, it's absolutely ridiculously detailed and i wouldn't mind having one.

Point i'm trying to make: if there's actual value to it, then i see no problem with $250 editions, and i'm looking forward to see what editions CDPR will bring for CP2077.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-04 07:02:35
April 04 2019 07:01 GMT
#50
On April 04 2019 09:52 Manit0u wrote:
BL3 most expensive edition: $250. Madness...


There is a shitton of real world stuff in there:
The loot chests sound really cool <3

Finally, the Diamond Loot Chest Collector's Edition will be available at GameStop for $250 / £250. It has everything in the Super Deluxe Edition, plus a plethora of collectibles, including a replica of the Diamond Loot Chest, 10 character figurines, a Sanctuary 3 snap model, and more. The Diamond Loot Chest Collector's Edition is also exclusive to Game for anyone who lives in the UK.

What's included:
Super Deluxe Edition of the game (including season pass) + any pre-order bonuses
Diamond Loot Chest Replica -- features a functional retractable lid so you can store your real-world loot
Ten Borderlands 3 three-inch character figurines -- the whole crew is here, including the four new Vault Hunters, the Calypso Twins, and more of your favorite characters from the Borderlands universe
Sanctuary 3 snap model with stand included
Four Vault Key keychains
Cloth galaxy map of the Borderlands
Five character art lithographs -- character prints starring the new Vault Hunters and fanatical Calypso Twins
Borderlands 3 steelbook case


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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
April 04 2019 07:06 GMT
#51
Not going to touch Epic store with a ten feet pole, and not gonna bother with console version unless it's 60fps on Pro or X.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
April 04 2019 07:12 GMT
#52
Apparently they worked closely with AMD . This might mean if I pick up a Ryzen 3000 later this year I might just get Borderlands 3 for free with it
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byte-Curious
Profile Joined October 2018
Mexico107 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-04 07:22:34
April 04 2019 07:18 GMT
#53
First, lol at 250 USD = 250 GBP. How the mighty have fallen.

Second, holy hell is buying new games stupid these days. Imagine wanting to buy a game and be presented with five different editions, three of which don't even offer all ingame content to trigger your FOMO, the fifth being the price of a month's rent for some gimmicks.

I could do, that or I could wait a couple of years, whilst playing a near infinite amount of great games that are out today and cost next to nothing, and then pick up a better, more feature complete, less buggy version that runs on cheaper hardware for a small fraction of the price. Mental.

The only thing I'm NOT salty about is that Epic store business.

Steam has gotten way too big for its own good, and it's about time that developers branch out a bit.
I get it, having more than one icon on your desktop is confusing, but Steam having a de facto monopoly hurts you more than having to remember which of your games is on which platform.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
April 04 2019 07:46 GMT
#54
I thought about it and 6 months exclusivity I think I can take. Won't cave in and download tencent's spyware. I'll wait until 2020-04-20 and buy it on Steam... who knows, maybe I'll lose interest and get it as late as Xmas 2020 even, with a 50% off and all DLCs or a GOTY edition?

This might not be as bad as I first imagined.
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byte-Curious
Profile Joined October 2018
Mexico107 Posts
April 04 2019 08:02 GMT
#55
Yeah, it's not like you can't get more awesome games than you could possibly play in a lifetime for dirt cheap.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
April 04 2019 09:13 GMT
#56
On April 04 2019 16:18 byte-Curious wrote:
The only thing I'm NOT salty about is that Epic store business.

Steam has gotten way too big for its own good, and it's about time that developers branch out a bit.
I get it, having more than one icon on your desktop is confusing, but Steam having a de facto monopoly hurts you more than having to remember which of your games is on which platform.


People don't really mind another platform. It's that Epic is a very shitty platform for the consumers (good for devs). You can't even buy more than 1 thing at a time there, requiring you to complete multiple checkouts if you want to grab some bundle on sale or something. It also doesn't support other controllers, which can be a deal breaker for some games.
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byte-Curious
Profile Joined October 2018
Mexico107 Posts
April 04 2019 10:00 GMT
#57
On April 04 2019 18:13 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2019 16:18 byte-Curious wrote:
The only thing I'm NOT salty about is that Epic store business.

Steam has gotten way too big for its own good, and it's about time that developers branch out a bit.
I get it, having more than one icon on your desktop is confusing, but Steam having a de facto monopoly hurts you more than having to remember which of your games is on which platform.

It also doesn't support other controllers, which can be a deal breaker for some games.


Haha, I can see how that would be an issue. Steam's major boon for me is that I can use the Switch Pro controller seamlessly. I don't even have a Switch any more, but I kept that controller because I love it.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 04 2019 12:54 GMT
#58
Epic’s store is lack luster, but at least they are open about know it has a lot of missing features. I believe they their development timeline and goals open to the public for viewing, which is more than I can say for most companies. But I only have to look at the Epic store for a moment before my game launches anyways.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 04 2019 16:34 GMT
#59
On April 04 2019 18:13 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2019 16:18 byte-Curious wrote:
The only thing I'm NOT salty about is that Epic store business.

Steam has gotten way too big for its own good, and it's about time that developers branch out a bit.
I get it, having more than one icon on your desktop is confusing, but Steam having a de facto monopoly hurts you more than having to remember which of your games is on which platform.


People don't really mind another platform. It's that Epic is a very shitty platform for the consumers (good for devs). You can't even buy more than 1 thing at a time there, requiring you to complete multiple checkouts if you want to grab some bundle on sale or something. It also doesn't support other controllers, which can be a deal breaker for some games.


I'd be worried about the long term developer impact. Sure it's nice when Epic is dropping you millions of dollars for exclusivity because they have to buy their way into the market instead of having a usable product. How long that business model will be viable for will be interesting. Plansix pointed out a developer roadmap of what features they're planning on adding, but that is so far out that it is a joke. Imagine the alternate universe where they paid some software developers to make a product that could compete with steam instead of buying their way into the market.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 04 2019 16:54 GMT
#60
Developing software takes time and there is no amount of money they can throw at it to make it go faster. It is a talent and resource problem. If they develop it with contract help on the short term, the talent that build the software won't be around to help add to it down the line. I'm not an expert in coding, but I know there is real value to keeping the people who designed the system around to maintain and note the system.

I personally don't care that much. But I have said it before in other threads, my relationship to Steam is about on the level of my relationship to Microsoft Word. And I have less love for Valve, who's radio silent nature went from quirky to indifferently imperial in a few short years. But I get it that people want some of those Steam features I don't use.

I am interested in knowing exactly how much Epic is paying these developers for timed exclusives. My bet is that it is less that people think, but still a substantial amount. From the what I have gleened from the many indie and AAA developers I follow, there is no affection for Valve and Steam in the industry, so ditching them isn't' a hard decision. Especially since Epic are also developers and are open to ideas like "user reviews and forums will be optional." And despite the noise about it on the internet, most people have no problem downloading and using a second client.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-04 17:39:01
April 04 2019 17:34 GMT
#61
On April 05 2019 01:54 Plansix wrote:
Developing software takes time and there is no amount of money they can throw at it to make it go faster. It is a talent and resource problem. If they develop it with contract help on the short term, the talent that build the software won't be around to help add to it down the line. I'm not an expert in coding, but I know there is real value to keeping the people who designed the system around to maintain and note the system.

I personally don't care that much. But I have said it before in other threads, my relationship to Steam is about on the level of my relationship to Microsoft Word. And I have less love for Valve, who's radio silent nature went from quirky to indifferently imperial in a few short years. But I get it that people want some of those Steam features I don't use.

I am interested in knowing exactly how much Epic is paying these developers for timed exclusives. My bet is that it is less that people think, but still a substantial amount. From the what I have gleened from the many indie and AAA developers I follow, there is no affection for Valve and Steam in the industry, so ditching them isn't' a hard decision. Especially since Epic are also developers and are open to ideas like "user reviews and forums will be optional." And despite the noise about it on the internet, most people have no problem downloading and using a second client.


The only data point seems to be Phoenix Point and even that is an extrapolation based on them saying that the deal made them more money even if they had to pay back all of their kickstarter funding.

I don't have any problem with Steam and it getting competition. If the game was offered on ten different platforms all at the same price maybe I stick with steam and maybe I move somewhere else. If the game is only offered on one shitty platform because they bought a monopoly I won't bother supporting that game. That said, I would be waiting for game of the year edition release and that seems fairly likely to occur after the epic exclusive period ends so I'm really boycotting something I wouldn't have bought anyway.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 04 2019 17:46 GMT
#62
On April 05 2019 02:34 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2019 01:54 Plansix wrote:
Developing software takes time and there is no amount of money they can throw at it to make it go faster. It is a talent and resource problem. If they develop it with contract help on the short term, the talent that build the software won't be around to help add to it down the line. I'm not an expert in coding, but I know there is real value to keeping the people who designed the system around to maintain and note the system.

I personally don't care that much. But I have said it before in other threads, my relationship to Steam is about on the level of my relationship to Microsoft Word. And I have less love for Valve, who's radio silent nature went from quirky to indifferently imperial in a few short years. But I get it that people want some of those Steam features I don't use.

I am interested in knowing exactly how much Epic is paying these developers for timed exclusives. My bet is that it is less that people think, but still a substantial amount. From the what I have gleened from the many indie and AAA developers I follow, there is no affection for Valve and Steam in the industry, so ditching them isn't' a hard decision. Especially since Epic are also developers and are open to ideas like "user reviews and forums will be optional." And despite the noise about it on the internet, most people have no problem downloading and using a second client.


The only data point seems to be Phoenix Point and even that is an extrapolation based on them saying that the deal made them more money even if they had to pay back all of their kickstarter funding.

I don't have any problem with Steam and it getting competition. If the game was offered on ten different platforms all at the same price maybe I stick with steam and maybe I move somewhere else. If the game is only offered on one shitty platform because they bought a monopoly I won't bother supporting that game. That said, I would be waiting for game of the year edition release and that seems fairly likely to occur after the epic exclusive period ends so I'm really boycotting something I wouldn't have bought anyway.

Paid exclusives for platform and stores are a staple of retail of all forms. Back in the day is was traditional stores that would pay to have a product first to generate traffic. Console makers would pay to have games on their platform exclusively or for a set period of time. The online store space has been weird because Steam was so dominate for so long, they never needed to cut these deals. But that has changed given the rise of Epic and the fact that Steam seems to have failed to capture the new generation of users. It stinks, but it is also never going to go away. Retailers are going to fight over who gets to carry the next hot video game first.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
April 04 2019 21:15 GMT
#63
On April 05 2019 01:54 Plansix wrote:
Developing software takes time and there is no amount of money they can throw at it to make it go faster. It is a talent and resource problem. If they develop it with contract help on the short term, the talent that build the software won't be around to help add to it down the line. I'm not an expert in coding, but I know there is real value to keeping the people who designed the system around to maintain and note the system.

I personally don't care that much. But I have said it before in other threads, my relationship to Steam is about on the level of my relationship to Microsoft Word. And I have less love for Valve, who's radio silent nature went from quirky to indifferently imperial in a few short years. But I get it that people want some of those Steam features I don't use.

I am interested in knowing exactly how much Epic is paying these developers for timed exclusives. My bet is that it is less that people think, but still a substantial amount. From the what I have gleened from the many indie and AAA developers I follow, there is no affection for Valve and Steam in the industry, so ditching them isn't' a hard decision. Especially since Epic are also developers and are open to ideas like "user reviews and forums will be optional." And despite the noise about it on the internet, most people have no problem downloading and using a second client.


The only confirmed figure we got right now was $2million for Epic exclusivity (although it was for an unestablished brand taken off from Kickstarter, I assume that getting somethiing like Borderlands on board for that would cost significantly more).

The problem with Epic is that they're lacking some of the most basic features and are banking on the exclusives. There was no outrage like that against GOG, which carved their niche slowly but steadily. They started as a platform for abandonware and old, almost forgotten stuff and moved on to releasing AAA titles right alongside Steam. They also have their own launcher (which is completely optional, which I find is a big +) but the services they provide are miles ahead of Epic. They even go as far as allowing you to copy your Steam key to unlock the game you have there (and vice versa if memory serves, it was a while).

People really don't mind different platforms. Diversity is good. Exclusivity deals are fine in the console world but don't make that much sense in the PC world.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 04 2019 21:30 GMT
#64
They make a lot of sense when the store front is taking 10-30% like a box retailer. All these storefronts are, infrastructure to deliver the video game to us. Like the EB Games of old.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-04 22:04:24
April 04 2019 21:58 GMT
#65
On April 05 2019 06:30 Plansix wrote:
They make a lot of sense when the store front is taking 10-30% like a box retailer. All these storefronts are, infrastructure to deliver the video game to us. Like the EB Games of old.


At the most basic level yes, but would you go grocery shopping at a store where you can only check out one item at a time because they don't have shopping carts? You wouldn't unless you were forced to shop there because they paid all the farmers to only sell food at their location.

I understand that retailers are going to have anti-consumer policies that make them more money. The question is are the consumers going to still buy their products?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 04 2019 22:04 GMT
#66
On April 05 2019 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2019 06:30 Plansix wrote:
They make a lot of sense when the store front is taking 10-30% like a box retailer. All these storefronts are, infrastructure to deliver the video game to us. Like the EB Games of old.


At the most basic level yes, but would you go grocery shopping at a store where you can only check out one item at a time because they don't have shopping carts? You wouldn't unless you were forced to shop there because they paid all the farmers to only sell food at their location.

I totally buy in season fruit from this one market because its super fresh and they have dope pies. They have cornered the fresh berries, apples and dope pie market for my local area, so they own my ass once its apple time. The service is not that fast and they have no carts, just baskets.

And I only ever buy one video game at at times, so I'm not bothered by Epic's problem.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 04 2019 22:08 GMT
#67
On April 05 2019 07:04 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2019 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On April 05 2019 06:30 Plansix wrote:
They make a lot of sense when the store front is taking 10-30% like a box retailer. All these storefronts are, infrastructure to deliver the video game to us. Like the EB Games of old.


At the most basic level yes, but would you go grocery shopping at a store where you can only check out one item at a time because they don't have shopping carts? You wouldn't unless you were forced to shop there because they paid all the farmers to only sell food at their location.

I totally buy in season fruit from this one market because its super fresh and they have dope pies. They have cornered the fresh berries, apples and dope pie market for my local area, so they own my ass once its apple time. The service is not that fast and they have no carts, just baskets.

And I only ever buy one video game at at times, so I'm not bothered by Epic's problem.


But in that case the market is delivering you a product that presumably you can't get anywhere else because it's local fresh fruit. That doesn't really extend out into the digital marketplace where service is the primary concern and not content.

I'd be content with you not choosing to purchase on steam because you don't care about features like cloud saving, steamworks, trading cards, etc etc. It's when your choice is taken away that you should become concerned.
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KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
April 04 2019 23:15 GMT
#68
On April 04 2019 09:52 Manit0u wrote:
BL3 most expensive edition: $250. Madness...



In 2015, they offered a limited collector's edition $400 bundle, called the Claptrap-in-a-Box ! It had a remote-controlled Claptrap. Claptrap In A Box


so $250 isn't madess, it's pocket change ! ! !

JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
April 04 2019 23:18 GMT
#69
Atari 2600 Space Invaders adjusted to inflation ... was $225.
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KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
April 04 2019 23:26 GMT
#70
On April 05 2019 08:18 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Atari 2600 Space Invaders adjusted to inflation ... was $225.


Why would it cost so much? Did they have a team of 30 guys working on it for 3 years or something?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-04 23:32:07
April 04 2019 23:30 GMT
#71
i bet you 1-4 guys made the game in a matter of months...with only 1 guy permanent full time.

Back then the primary revenue generator was people putting $0.25 into the Arcade game. Midway/Taito didn't want people buying a $20 game that could replace the arcade experience. As a result, they tacked on a massive licensing fee for the game making it cost $80 USD.

Adjusted to inflation I'm pretty sure the arcade game, Space Invaders, made around 3 Billion USD. They were protecting that revenue stream with a massive licensing fee on the home version of the game.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 04 2019 23:41 GMT
#72
ALso the production scale on video games was so much smaller then. And the cost of building a machine was higher, since it was all hardware driven. It was a different time and the audience was very smol.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-05 00:48:50
April 05 2019 00:47 GMT
#73
audience was very small ? i said it made $3 Billion USD adjusted to inflation. Even if that were correct that means it had a big audience. Turns out it made $13 Billion adjusted to inflation and was highest grossing entertainment product of its time.

The Atari 2600 game alone sold 2 million copies. It was ported over to over a dozen platforms including Atari 5200, C64, and NES. It was the #2 arcade game of all time. Arcades used to be everywhere and 7-11's would have 1 or 2 arcade machines.

You don't pull in that kind of cash with an audience that is "very small".

People who get angry about the "current high cost" of video games don't really hold an accurate historical perspective. Its just fits in with outrage culture.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-05 01:08:04
April 05 2019 00:52 GMT
#74
Each player gets their own personal instanced "Loot Stream" in Borderlands 3. No more dealing with jerks in your open world games running in and taking all the loot from killing a giant monster.

"Take down enemies and challenges as a team, but reap rewards that are yours alone – no one misses out on loot."

https://borderlands.com/en-US/shop/borderlands-3-standard-edition/#rg="united-states"

i hope this also means players get loot that suits not just their level.. but where they are in their story-line.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 05 2019 01:56 GMT
#75
On April 05 2019 07:08 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2019 07:04 Plansix wrote:
On April 05 2019 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On April 05 2019 06:30 Plansix wrote:
They make a lot of sense when the store front is taking 10-30% like a box retailer. All these storefronts are, infrastructure to deliver the video game to us. Like the EB Games of old.


At the most basic level yes, but would you go grocery shopping at a store where you can only check out one item at a time because they don't have shopping carts? You wouldn't unless you were forced to shop there because they paid all the farmers to only sell food at their location.

I totally buy in season fruit from this one market because its super fresh and they have dope pies. They have cornered the fresh berries, apples and dope pie market for my local area, so they own my ass once its apple time. The service is not that fast and they have no carts, just baskets.

And I only ever buy one video game at at times, so I'm not bothered by Epic's problem.


But in that case the market is delivering you a product that presumably you can't get anywhere else because it's local fresh fruit. That doesn't really extend out into the digital marketplace where service is the primary concern and not content.

I'd be content with you not choosing to purchase on steam because you don't care about features like cloud saving, steamworks, trading cards, etc etc. It's when your choice is taken away that you should become concerned.

Epic is delivering you that fresh borderlands 3. For less fresh video games, steam has your back. But only Epic imports that kind Borderlands 3 action.
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byte-Curious
Profile Joined October 2018
Mexico107 Posts
April 05 2019 07:08 GMT
#76
On April 05 2019 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2019 06:30 Plansix wrote:
They make a lot of sense when the store front is taking 10-30% like a box retailer. All these storefronts are, infrastructure to deliver the video game to us. Like the EB Games of old.


At the most basic level yes, but would you go grocery shopping at a store where you can only check out one item at a time because they don't have shopping carts?


That complaint seems almost petty.

How many games are you buying that it becomes a nuisance to buy them one at a time?

And you just know it's one of their highest priorities sorting that out. Anything that makes sales easier or more likely is usually near the top of the development queue.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-05 12:43:52
April 05 2019 12:38 GMT
#77
On April 05 2019 16:08 byte-Curious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2019 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On April 05 2019 06:30 Plansix wrote:
They make a lot of sense when the store front is taking 10-30% like a box retailer. All these storefronts are, infrastructure to deliver the video game to us. Like the EB Games of old.


At the most basic level yes, but would you go grocery shopping at a store where you can only check out one item at a time because they don't have shopping carts?


That complaint seems almost petty.

How many games are you buying that it becomes a nuisance to buy them one at a time?

And you just know it's one of their highest priorities sorting that out. Anything that makes sales easier or more likely is usually near the top of the development queue.


Shopping cart is actually in the long term bucket if you check their dev road map.
https://trello.com/b/GXLc34hk/epic-games-store-roadmap

It's just the best example of a basic feature that epic game store lacks. Searching was the low hanging fruit, but they actually added that recently.

On April 05 2019 10:56 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2019 07:08 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On April 05 2019 07:04 Plansix wrote:
On April 05 2019 06:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On April 05 2019 06:30 Plansix wrote:
They make a lot of sense when the store front is taking 10-30% like a box retailer. All these storefronts are, infrastructure to deliver the video game to us. Like the EB Games of old.


At the most basic level yes, but would you go grocery shopping at a store where you can only check out one item at a time because they don't have shopping carts? You wouldn't unless you were forced to shop there because they paid all the farmers to only sell food at their location.

I totally buy in season fruit from this one market because its super fresh and they have dope pies. They have cornered the fresh berries, apples and dope pie market for my local area, so they own my ass once its apple time. The service is not that fast and they have no carts, just baskets.

And I only ever buy one video game at at times, so I'm not bothered by Epic's problem.


But in that case the market is delivering you a product that presumably you can't get anywhere else because it's local fresh fruit. That doesn't really extend out into the digital marketplace where service is the primary concern and not content.

I'd be content with you not choosing to purchase on steam because you don't care about features like cloud saving, steamworks, trading cards, etc etc. It's when your choice is taken away that you should become concerned.

Epic is delivering you that fresh borderlands 3. For less fresh video games, steam has your back. But only Epic imports that kind Borderlands 3 action.


But content restrictions don't make any sense in the digital marketplace. They've created a monopoly for themselves, but we tend to frown upon those and break them up.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 05 2019 13:16 GMT
#78
They do not have a monopoly on all video games. Just one specific video game. That is just an exclusive.

And it only doesn’t make sense in a digital market place if you ignore market places are just stores run by different people. This is how it has always been in retail. It is just that steam’s dominance made it so everyone put their game on steam. That dominance is being chipped away.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 05 2019 13:50 GMT
#79
On April 05 2019 22:16 Plansix wrote:
They do not have a monopoly on all video games. Just one specific video game. That is just an exclusive.

And it only doesn’t make sense in a digital market place if you ignore market places are just stores run by different people. This is how it has always been in retail. It is just that steam’s dominance made it so everyone put their game on steam. That dominance is being chipped away.


Retailers have always engaged in anti-consumer practices isn't a compelling argument that we should continue that practice. There are real challenges to cutting down exclusivity with physical goods. Those challenges don't exist when you're delivering digital content.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 05 2019 13:58 GMT
#80
On April 05 2019 22:50 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2019 22:16 Plansix wrote:
They do not have a monopoly on all video games. Just one specific video game. That is just an exclusive.

And it only doesn’t make sense in a digital market place if you ignore market places are just stores run by different people. This is how it has always been in retail. It is just that steam’s dominance made it so everyone put their game on steam. That dominance is being chipped away.


Retailers have always engaged in anti-consumer practices isn't a compelling argument that we should continue that practice. There are real challenges to cutting down exclusivity with physical goods. Those challenges don't exist when you're delivering digital content.

I don’t really see having to download free software as huge burden on a consumer, TBH. The consumer is not the top priority in every aspect of selling a product. When it come to the venue for sale, the relationship with the vendor is just as important. Plus there is also the option of not playing Borderlands 3.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-05 15:08:12
April 05 2019 14:58 GMT
#81
Gearbox did everything they could to suck up to Steam consumers knowing some bad news for Steam people was on the way. BL1 got a very nice FREE upgrade. I just bought "The Handsome Collection" on Steam which provides a metric tonne of DLC for BL2 and BL:TPS for $12 CDN. It must be under $10 USD.

If the Epic Game Store continues to totally suck balls in the the 2nd week of September I'll just wait until April. It's no biggie.

I don't like the Epic Store 6 month exclusive. I'm a happy camper though. Every single decision won't always go my way. Meh.

Steam is better, but its not like Steam has been doing only pro-consumer things. As of recently, I can no longer buy my american gf steam games . The way around it ... buy a Visa/Mastercard gift cards when I"m in the USA and then set up a US specific Steam account that just gives gifts to her. I'm moving to New York state in May... i wonder if this means converting my Steam account to the USA will be some giant ordeal.

I wonder if Gearbox would've bribed us Steamers with a really sweet BL1 upgrade if there were no Epic Games exclusive on the way. I don't think its a coincidence they handed out the free upgrade on Steam on the very same day they announced the Epic Exclusive.
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KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
April 06 2019 16:14 GMT
#82
On April 05 2019 22:58 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2019 22:50 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On April 05 2019 22:16 Plansix wrote:
They do not have a monopoly on all video games. Just one specific video game. That is just an exclusive.

And it only doesn’t make sense in a digital market place if you ignore market places are just stores run by different people. This is how it has always been in retail. It is just that steam’s dominance made it so everyone put their game on steam. That dominance is being chipped away.


Retailers have always engaged in anti-consumer practices isn't a compelling argument that we should continue that practice. There are real challenges to cutting down exclusivity with physical goods. Those challenges don't exist when you're delivering digital content.

I don’t really see having to download free software as huge burden on a consumer, TBH. The consumer is not the top priority in every aspect of selling a product. When it come to the venue for sale, the relationship with the vendor is just as important. Plus there is also the option of not playing Borderlands 3.



OMG!!! How is not buying Borderlands 3 an option??!!

It's BORDERLANDS 3!!!!!!

No, I get your point. The deal with Epic is only like 6 months, correct? If anything, all we need to do is engage in some "delay gratification" practice.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
April 08 2019 12:56 GMT
#83
If this opens the market, I'm all for Epic. Steam had the monopoly for too long.

This is the same with Metro Exodus: I really want it, but I don't wanna pay the full price anyway ^^ so I have to wait
Not sure if I can withstand the urge to buy Borderlands 3 right out the gate though
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-08 14:07:18
April 08 2019 13:29 GMT
#84
However, Borderlands 3 changes.... I hope it maintains the strong "Mad Max" vibe. Greed... desperation... insanity.. violence.. set in a bleak, barren, desolate landscape.

The Mad Max theme continues to influence entertainers. Check out this "Mad Max" themed entrance at Wrestlemania yesterday.

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Compare it to this.


I hope a substantial part of Borderlands3 has the kind of backdrop in the video above.
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KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
April 08 2019 22:27 GMT
#85
Out of curiosity, I looked up the 1979 Mad Max movie. Australian made on a very low less than 1/2 a million dollar budget was initially poorly received. But it ended up grossing around $100 million world wide due to the cult following. I find it's lasting effect on the industry pretty amazing.
SSNYC77
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
43 Posts
April 09 2019 03:20 GMT
#86
On April 09 2019 07:27 KelianQatar wrote:
Out of curiosity, I looked up the 1979 Mad Max movie. Australian made on a very low less than 1/2 a million dollar budget was initially poorly received. But it ended up grossing around $100 million world wide due to the cult following. I find it's lasting effect on the industry pretty amazing.

It's been poorly received because at the time it was over the top violence. Reviews based on that criteria cant usually stan the test of time.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-10 00:41:09
April 10 2019 00:40 GMT
#87
On April 08 2019 22:29 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
However, Borderlands 3 changes.... I hope it maintains the strong "Mad Max" vibe. Greed... desperation... insanity.. violence.. set in a bleak, barren, desolate landscape.

The Mad Max theme continues to influence entertainers. Check out this "Mad Max" themed entrance at Wrestlemania yesterday.

Compare it to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpO2CCxH_D4

I hope a substantial part of Borderlands3 has the kind of backdrop in the video above.

That Mad Mel quest line through the dahl headlands in Borderlands 1 made it pretty clear that they drew some inspiration from the movie franchise.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
April 10 2019 07:06 GMT
#88
About 5 days before Borderlands : The Presequel hit Steam it was available on Pirate Bay. It was a version of the game that was playable at some kind of PAX show. It had a few somewhat noticeable bugs, but it was absolutely playable.

Some guy who claims he is a disgruntled Gearbox employee claims he is going to make Borderlands3 available on Pirate Bay before the game's release date.

https://i.imgur.com/XoY2Gat.jpg
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
April 10 2019 09:25 GMT
#89
On April 10 2019 16:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
About 5 days before Borderlands : The Presequel hit Steam it was available on Pirate Bay. It was a version of the game that was playable at some kind of PAX show. It had a few somewhat noticeable bugs, but it was absolutely playable.

Some guy who claims he is a disgruntled Gearbox employee claims he is going to make Borderlands3 available on Pirate Bay before the game's release date.

https://i.imgur.com/XoY2Gat.jpg


This whole Anthem disaster apparently started a huge wave! Good for employees of game studios all over the world. Curious to see it pan out. I'm also not sure yet if this is good or bad for your typical gamer
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
April 10 2019 10:00 GMT
#90
On April 10 2019 16:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
About 5 days before Borderlands : The Presequel hit Steam it was available on Pirate Bay. It was a version of the game that was playable at some kind of PAX show. It had a few somewhat noticeable bugs, but it was absolutely playable.

Some guy who claims he is a disgruntled Gearbox employee claims he is going to make Borderlands3 available on Pirate Bay before the game's release date.

https://i.imgur.com/XoY2Gat.jpg


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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
April 10 2019 10:42 GMT
#91
On April 09 2019 07:27 KelianQatar wrote:
Out of curiosity, I looked up the 1979 Mad Max movie. Australian made on a very low less than 1/2 a million dollar budget was initially poorly received. But it ended up grossing around $100 million world wide due to the cult following. I find it's lasting effect on the industry pretty amazing.


Well, to be honest it only really kicked off with Mad Max 2. This is where all the truly iconic post-apo stuff started. The first installment was a revenge movie set in the world at the time of apocalypse, not after it so the setting there was rather contemporary for the time. MM2 is where most other stuff gets its inspiration from.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
April 11 2019 20:26 GMT
#92
This 3rd Person MOD for Borderlands Enhanced Edition is not perfect. But, its pretty damn good.

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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-12 10:01:25
April 12 2019 10:00 GMT
#93
Looking at the 3rd person video I'm not sure anymore if Borderlands was an ego shooter in the first place O.o

When regarding the "Mad Max" universe, there is also a second game called "Rage"
Rage 1 was hugely anticipated and then a quite a disappointment if I remember correctly.
Rage 2 will be released in 5 weeks (2019-05-14)





EDIT: Yes, it is on steam and yes it will shorten the wait for Borderlands 3
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8978 Posts
April 13 2019 22:16 GMT
#94
The problem Rage had when it released, was that it had nothing. It was basically void of any substance or anything to keep the player coming back. It was short and everything was severely limited (map, weapons, upgrades, etc). It looks like they're making Rage 2 what Rage 1 should have been.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
April 15 2019 07:08 GMT
#95
I think I played Rage 1. Don't remember much of the gameplay itself. Mostly remember they did something awful with graphics. Like textures took forever to load and shit.

Will keep an eye out for Rage 2 though
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
April 18 2019 01:42 GMT
#96
No Slag in Borderlands 3.
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
April 19 2019 06:27 GMT
#97
Hopefully it's a small damage increase and not the +200% damage bonus that slag was in BL2. Working around enemy vulnerabilities with the different element types is what makes BL fun. Once it becomes a requirement then player choice is severely hindered.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
April 21 2019 16:47 GMT
#98
video with lots of insights into the Borderlands franchise


on Steam...
BL1 sold 4.08 million copies.
BL2 sold 11.22 million copies
BL:TPS sold 2.18 million copies
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KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
April 23 2019 18:35 GMT
#99
I'm really enjoying playing the Enhanced version of Borderlands and I cannot wait for Borderlands 3 !!

Gearbox recently put this video up on their Youtube channel. You guys might find it interesting!



More stories to come?! ... I wonder if we'll get some of BL3's story with their Game Play reveal on May 1st ?

JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
April 29 2019 08:17 GMT
#100
another part to "Borderlands ...The Story So Far...." was added to youtube.
Shouldn't the next part of the story be Borderlands The PreSequel and cover the rise and Handsome Jack? Anyhow , here it is. It covers about 80% of Borderlands 2.

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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-29 22:43:35
April 29 2019 22:29 GMT
#101
26 second clip of Borderlands 3 put up by Gearbox and then removed.
+ Show Spoiler +



This shows zero combat so it might have been done intentionally by Gearbox to increase the hype for May 1.
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JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2517 Posts
April 30 2019 13:22 GMT
#102
On April 22 2019 01:47 JimmyJRaynor wrote:

on Steam...
BL1 sold 4.08 million copies.
BL2 sold 11.22 million copies
BL:TPS sold 2.18 million copies


Unfortunately BL:TPS had the better classes but everything else in this game was worse than in BL 1 and 2.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-01 01:53:01
April 30 2019 18:03 GMT
#103
Gearbox Prez provided many details about the May 1 Gameplay Reveal of Borderlands 3.


Its cool to hear Borderlands 3 can be played in single player offline mode. So you don't have to have "Big Brother" watching every move you make.

On the opposite end of the connectivity spectrum Gearbox introduced something that incentivizes watching people play Borderlands3. If you connect your Gearbox Shift account to your twitch account and turn on the "Echocast" you can get level scaled versions of the gear the twitch broadcaster finds in secret chests.

https://borderlands.com/en-US/news/2019-04-29-score-loot-with-twitch-during-gameplay-reveal/

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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8978 Posts
May 01 2019 20:29 GMT
#104
They are debuting gameplay today. Can probably find one ign or youtube if you want to check it out.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 02 2019 03:17 GMT
#105
I watched the gameplay debut live. It seems like a solid iteration from BL2 (I haven't played TPS yet), and I'm really digging the comfy QOL features and some movement mechanics lifted from Apex Legends/Titanfall. I will have to wait for the Steam release, though.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
May 03 2019 22:25 GMT
#106
It looks like the game has a lot of potential. However, the enemy AI sucks. I hope they fix this issue.

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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
May 06 2019 18:51 GMT
#107
there is some good discussion about enemy AI in the Gearbox forums

did you like the enemy AI? were there smart enemies? by smart i don’t mean able to head shot you from 4 football fields away. i mean smart moving , smart thinking enemies?

ANSWER:
It was a mix, vehicles were not so smart, enemies felt similar to bl2 slightly better. Some mobs worked pretty well together.


https://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/i-was-at-the-reveal-what-do-you-want-to-know/2300131/124?u=leeharveyoswald
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-07 09:54:33
May 07 2019 09:50 GMT
#108
So Borderlands 3 should have been a self marketing product but Randy Pitchford has run into a ditch. How is he still the CEO at Gearbox?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-07 14:46:14
May 07 2019 13:28 GMT
#109
I think he owns Gearbox and the Borderlands IP. If he were an employee all this smoke would cause his employer to respond in some way. That is not the case here. He is no one's full time employee.

I'm still able to get into random "open world" games with players near my level in Borderlands 1 : GOTY Edition. I'm damn impressed Gearbox has managed to bring Borderlands1 back to life.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 07 2019 16:01 GMT
#110
I would be updating my resume if i worked for Pitchford right now. The man doe not instill confidence.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-08 00:00:17
May 07 2019 16:34 GMT
#111
meh, Gearbox-Australia was instantly shut down right after The Pre-Sequel released. There will be lots of overtime work until September and then lots of employees/contractors/consultants/interns will be let go. Welcome to the interactive entertainment industry. same shit. different decade. If employees at Gearbox are not planning their exit ... i guess all i can say is this...

"Know your worth and don’t be fooled by #passion"



Ironically, the industry is as amoral, cut throat, and ruthless as the mythical universe Gearbox created in Borderlands.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
May 07 2019 20:04 GMT
#112
I found a pretty good developer interview

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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
May 18 2019 21:26 GMT
#113
Borderlands 3 has been pulled entirely from the Epic Games Store. So , ummm, wtf?
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-19 01:31:54
May 19 2019 01:27 GMT
#114
On May 19 2019 06:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Borderlands 3 has been pulled entirely from the Epic Games Store. So , ummm, wtf?


https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-05-18-borderlands-3-pre-order-pulled-from-epic-games-store-amid-mega-sale-kerfuffle

I think they want to avoid the backlash that would be caused if people could buy deluxe pre-orders $10 off (that would anger the hell out of anyone who got them at full price).

They intend to bring it back after the sale I assume. It's the same for VTMB2.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
May 21 2019 18:48 GMT
#115
If you are able to cheaply convert USD/CDN money there is a way to save $10 on the Super Deluxe Edition of Borderlands 3. Buy it from Green Man Gaming with Canadian money using a Canadian VPN. It is $90 USD.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
May 21 2019 20:07 GMT
#116
i don't understand the concept of people being angry that others bought something during a promotional sale. sales are sales. if i get apples on sale at $0.99/lb and someone else buys the same kind of apples the next day at $1.49/lb do they get to complain about me being present for a sale?

it's a little bit more ridiculous when the product is a deluxe edition pre-order. a deluxe pre-order is already an essentially useless product you're paying for just because you're excited about the game and want a chance at some marginal extras or an early installation. even buying that shit at all contributes to the price gouging culture in the gaming industry. don't throw your money at these companies for nothing if you want them to be more conscientious about pricing
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 16:45:38
May 26 2019 16:39 GMT
#117
Normally, the price falls once the game is released. That is standard behaviour. It is a bad idea to have sales during a pre-order period when the game is unplayable. having 1 group of customers pay $60 USD because they were so passionate they bought in right after the BIG REVEAL on May 1 ... versus a cold, calculating prick like me who waits for a sale and pays $50 USD.

Good move by 2K Games to pull out of the Epic Games sale and keep the price the same for all customers during the pre-order time period.
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
June 10 2019 04:39 GMT
#118


New BL2 DLC is out, free until July 8th. It apparently starts setting up the plot for BL3.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
June 10 2019 05:41 GMT
#119
Also there's some insaaaaaane sale going on on Steam right now where you can get BL2 + Pre-Sequel + pretty much all the DLC for both I think for like 95% off (or more).

I have BL2 and some of it's DLC already but I got pre-sequel and a bunch more for about $5.

So yeah, hit that up + the new one above if you're getting amped for 3 I guess lol
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
July 28 2019 19:22 GMT
#120
i found a pretty funny parody song for Borderlands.

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victorysilver1412
Profile Joined August 2019
United States1 Post
August 02 2019 10:30 GMT
#121
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-06 18:00:14
August 06 2019 14:48 GMT
#122
IGN posted the first 14 minutes of Borderlands 3.
+ Show Spoiler +


Here is Amara.


According to people who follow Take2 conference calls Borderlands went from 43 million units sold to 48 million units sold in the past 3 months.

I'd say the promotion of Borderlands 3 has been a success. Good idea by 2K//Gearbox keeping Pitchford away from the last few Borderlands3 promotional events.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
August 07 2019 07:56 GMT
#123
On August 06 2019 23:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
IGN posted the first 14 minutes of Borderlands 3.
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M79NdSmhAg


Here is Amara.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xASquu1qp0

According to people who follow Take2 conference calls Borderlands went from 43 million units sold to 48 million units sold in the past 3 months.

I'd say the promotion of Borderlands 3 has been a success. Good idea by 2K//Gearbox keeping Pitchford away from the last few Borderlands3 promotional events.


Which Borderlands is that?

I mean BL 1 , BL 2 and Prequel were sold for like 5 $ as a package. Now wonder it sold 5 million copies
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-07 10:40:19
August 07 2019 10:26 GMT
#124


This is absolute insanity! Unfortunately i can believe every word of it given take2's strongly negative history over the last handful of years which included other blatant violations of laws. Anyone interested in buying BL3 should seriously look into this incident and their prior history. It's not a good time to be a consumer or content producer
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
August 07 2019 11:41 GMT
#125
On August 07 2019 19:26 Cyro wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kmC0NZShfM&t=137s

This is absolute insanity! Unfortunately i can believe every word of it given take2's strongly negative history over the last handful of years which included other blatant violations of laws. Anyone interested in buying BL3 should seriously look into this incident and their prior history. It's not a good time to be a consumer or content producer


Skipped through it. This is a clip about Anthem??!!

Could you explain what riled you up? I don't get the connection
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
August 07 2019 12:05 GMT
#126
On August 07 2019 20:41 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2019 19:26 Cyro wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kmC0NZShfM&t=137s

This is absolute insanity! Unfortunately i can believe every word of it given take2's strongly negative history over the last handful of years which included other blatant violations of laws. Anyone interested in buying BL3 should seriously look into this incident and their prior history. It's not a good time to be a consumer or content producer


Skipped through it. This is a clip about Anthem??!!

Could you explain what riled you up? I don't get the connection


It's a video talking entirely about Take2. They don't use Borderlands footage because part of the drama is about Take2 illegally abusing DMCA takedowns.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-07 15:44:05
August 07 2019 15:41 GMT
#127
On August 07 2019 20:41 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2019 19:26 Cyro wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kmC0NZShfM&t=137s

This is absolute insanity! Unfortunately i can believe every word of it given take2's strongly negative history over the last handful of years which included other blatant violations of laws. Anyone interested in buying BL3 should seriously look into this incident and their prior history. It's not a good time to be a consumer or content producer


Skipped through it. This is a clip about Anthem??!!

Could you explain what riled you up? I don't get the connection


Borderlands 3 twitter did an oopsie and released some spoiler on their own official twitter, people/fans started to cover and discuss it, Take2 contacted some local thugs/private "investigators" to intimidate this 1 particular YTber IRL sending them to his literally fucking physical home address, to blackmail him into shutting up about the leak.

Then procceeded to DMCA his YT channel, Twitter, Discord and other social media he uses.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-07 17:05:37
August 07 2019 16:36 GMT
#128
Do you know about the regulations governing P.I. licensing in the state where this occurred? I'd say these guys have to be more wary than an average citizen of engaging in any "thug" behaviour lest they lose their P.I. license.

What Take2 did was wrong. It looks really bad on them and possibly on Gearbox as well. Referring to the two people who visited Supmatto as "thugs" to add more drama to the story is off-base though. "Thug" is a nice vague word with lots of negative connotation. Notice no one is referring to the two people that visited SupMatto as convicted violent criminal felons? "Thug" is nice and vague.... and really nice clickbait for youtubers who get paid based on view count.

Whether or not Gearbox is directly involved in this one or not .. it is another P.R. FUBAR for Gearbox. They've stopped Pitchford from attending events. Now we have this bad fuck up with SupMatto. The promotion of Borderlands 3 has had more twists and turns than a Borderlands game plot. LOL.

IGN gets another cool exclusive insight into Borderlands 3.


On August 07 2019 16:56 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2019 23:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
IGN posted the first 14 minutes of Borderlands 3.
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M79NdSmhAg


Here is Amara.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xASquu1qp0

According to people who follow Take2 conference calls Borderlands went from 43 million units sold to 48 million units sold in the past 3 months.

I'd say the promotion of Borderlands 3 has been a success. Good idea by 2K//Gearbox keeping Pitchford away from the last few Borderlands3 promotional events.


Which Borderlands is that?

I mean BL 1 , BL 2 and Prequel were sold for like 5 $ as a package. Now wonder it sold 5 million copies

It was a big discount for sure. However, i think your details are a bit off.

I think The "Handsome Collection" was $6 USD. The "Handsome Collection" does not include Borderlands 1. Borderlands 1 : Remastered was ~ $15 USD during the sale period you mention.

They kept Borderlands1 separated from the Handsome Collection. They revamped Borderlands1 completely adding a mini-map, way better graphics, better multiplayer support and many QOL features for inventory management. They sold BL1 separately from the "Handsome Collection".

I'm really damn impressed with how much they improved Borderlands 1.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-07 19:51:32
August 07 2019 19:47 GMT
#129
it appears Take2 and 2K Games have a very different story about their investigation of SupMatto.
https://ca.ign.com/articles/2019/08/07/take-two-addresses-investigation-into-borderlands-3-streamer-leaks
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-08 00:42:25
August 07 2019 21:29 GMT
#130
I'm gonna trust the content creator over the megacorporation who have personally screwed me over by violating local privacy laws in games that they bought after i did.

In our discussions with 2K, we’ve learned that the Twitch streams SupMatto used as sources were set to private, not public, as SupMatto claims. We were told that it was an exploit in Twitch’s security that allowed SupMatto’s community to datamine their way into getting access to thumbnail previews on what were private test streams. This puts SupMatto's claims in his Borderlands 3 videos into question.


This part is factually incorrect and doesn't put anything into question, it's a baseless attack.

They either don't understand or are deliberately trying to confuse people about the difference between the public/private flag on a stream (which gives permission for people to watch the broadcast) and the talk about "public information" as in information that is available for anyone to see.

The thumbnails of streams are available for anybody to view at any time. They are not protected by the "private" flag on twitch therefore they are public information. The fault is on Twitch for allowing such a privacy flaw (anybody can freely pull information from your "private" stream) and on Take2 for using them to livestream confidential information despite the flaw being public knowledge for as long as i can remember.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
August 08 2019 12:06 GMT
#131
Thanky for the summary guys. I would have missed this whole situation.

Hard to tell who did what wrong honestly. I can see the YT guy doing shady stuff. For a company this is way more difficult/ risky. On the other hand this could also be the other way around and the YT guy really is innocent
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-08 13:00:00
August 08 2019 12:51 GMT
#132
at the 3 minute mark in SupMatto's video he acknowledges he committed some bad behaviour.

SupMatto released accurate details of all 4 Vault Hunters in Borderlands 3 in October 2018 some 6 months before the game was even announced. It appears this sparked the beginning of what became a 10 month investigation. Later on, he "broke" the rumour that a new BL:TPS DLC was on the way. This was partially correct .. it turned out we got a BL2 DLC. He is continually publishing leaks and then speculating based off that.

IGN gets exclusive content pre-release content/details for Borderlands3 before anyone else. I would not be too surprised to see a bias on IGN's part in favour of Take2 and against an independent Youtuber with whom they compete for views.

What an ugly mess. Can we get Marcus Kincaid to explain why Take2 is 100% in the right on this one?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-08 20:25:09
August 08 2019 20:24 GMT
#133
Its clear "TheQuartering" is reporting in a manner very favourable to SupMatto. With 0.5 million subscribers and his pro-independent youtuber slant it is no surprise that any new stuff coming from SupMatto's side is coming out of TheQuartering.

This just in from "TheQuartering"... SupMatto's channel received over 60 copyright strikes against his videos and therefore in 7 days SupMatto's channel is due to be terminated.


If Take2's primary concern was with Supmatto's October 2018 leak and not with the recent stuff with the Echo-Cast then SupMatto has put himself in a bad spot in his most recent video. He made it seem like the EchoCast//Twitch thumbnail "data-mining" was Take2's only/primary concern. If he mis-characterized his meeting with the P.I.'s .... expect Take2 to hit him hard.
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abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1930 Posts
August 09 2019 06:38 GMT
#134
don't you just love this industry.
I don't believe you.
Artesimo
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany546 Posts
August 09 2019 11:24 GMT
#135
On August 09 2019 05:24 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Its clear "TheQuartering" is reporting in a manner very favourable to SupMatto. With 0.5 million subscribers and his pro-independent youtuber slant it is no surprise that any new stuff coming from SupMatto's side is coming out of TheQuartering.


He is also a prime example for a demagogue who like to market himself as the defender of the little guy, always quick with getting out the pitchforks and I don't think I ever saw a video of him that didn't feature some very misleading or manipulating way of presenting his arguments... If there is something with only the quartering as a source the best course of action is to completely ignore it.

Not really speaking on the matter and more a general PSA regarding the quartering. You can't really use anything the guy publishes unless you can verify it via some other means.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 12:56:29
August 09 2019 12:52 GMT
#136
Inside Gaming did some nice research into this issue.


On August 09 2019 15:38 abuse wrote:
don't you just love this industry.

there is some indication he was selling $5/month subscription fees for special access to a Discord channel that gives out secret Borderlands 3 marketing info. If this is true he 100% deserves what he is getting. Take2 claims they can prove this.

the UFC absolutely crushed Ariel Helwani for revealing their marketing plan ahead of time. It isn't just the video game industry man. When there is big money up for grabs this stuff happens. SupMatto played this all wrong. He should've cried his eyes out for hours in his video like Ariel Helwani did. Ariel got his life back. I'm not so sure about SupMatto.

Playing Borderlands and seeing this incident play out I wonder.. "is art imitating life ... or is life imitating art"
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abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1930 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 13:57:08
August 09 2019 13:56 GMT
#137
nah, if that were the case, then he'd deserve legal action, not copyright abuse and private investigators.
If that were actually true(the fact that he got the info illegally) then trust me they would've sued him already, but since they have nothing that would actually constitute as "evidence" they do shit like this.
I don't believe you.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 14:10:32
August 09 2019 14:02 GMT
#138
Check out the "Inside Gaming" video. It is a legal gray area. He pushed it towards the illegal territory. P.I.s can't do anything. SupMatto can call 911 at any time and the P.I.s must leave his home. Ariel Helwani got it way worse.

SupMatto deleted his twitter and several youtube videos. For a guy with "nothing to hide" he sure started hiding a lot of stuff. He offered a carefully worded half-apology in his "breaking the silence" video. Its obvious he is reading the apology section word for word. Its not some ad-lib youtuber rant.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
August 09 2019 15:44 GMT
#139
So you don't like TheQuartering because he's biased in favor of a single person and not biased towards a multi-billion dollar company? I guess that fair...

So let's try


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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
August 12 2019 21:12 GMT
#140
no pre-loading of Borderlands 3 a couple of days before its released.

twitter.com
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
August 15 2019 18:20 GMT
#141
SupMatto's youtube channel is gone. He deleted his twitter account about a week ago. His Discord is gone. I guess that's it.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-28 18:02:00
August 28 2019 17:37 GMT
#142
The PC Specifications for Borderlands 3 have been released.
https://borderlands.com/en-US/news/2019-08-27-bl3-pc-specs/

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Games like Diablo 3 and Destiny 2 have "seasons". Borderlands 3 will not have those kinds of "seasons". The game can be played offline so "cheating"//"exploiting" will be possible.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-29 09:47:58
August 29 2019 09:47 GMT
#143
On August 29 2019 02:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The PC Specifications for Borderlands 3 have been released.
https://borderlands.com/en-US/news/2019-08-27-bl3-pc-specs/

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Games like Diablo 3 and Destiny 2 have "seasons". Borderlands 3 will not have those kinds of "seasons". The game can be played offline so "cheating"//"exploiting" will be possible.


Damn I'm barely above recommended

I don't think BL 3 will become any kind of esport, so I don't mind the cheating and exploiting part too much. This also means it probably will be moddable, so maybe we can expect so cool stuff from the mod community
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KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
September 04 2019 00:22 GMT
#144
I have some great news Vault Hunters!!!

Gearbox just announced that Borderlands 3 will be available for download roughly 48 hours ahead of the September 13th Launch!

Check out the maps below to determine when Borderlands 3 is expected to go live in your region.

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bertolo
Profile Joined June 2010
United States133 Posts
September 04 2019 01:36 GMT
#145
Definitely waiting till it is released on steam for this one.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 04:38:42
September 07 2019 03:22 GMT
#146
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-10 03:07:01
September 09 2019 17:25 GMT
#147
2 reviews are in.

The Polygon review is pretty critical of the game.
https://www.polygon.com/reviews/2019/9/9/20852642/borderlands-3-review-pc-ps4-xbox-one

the IGN review is very positive. IGN is a very optmistic game site in general. IGN also got all kinds of exclusive early content special previews directly from Gearbox.
https://ca.ign.com/articles/2019/09/09/borderlands-3-review

The Calypso twins have looked bland right from the start. Handsome Jack was a total-prick, dick-faced, jerk right from the very first trailer they released. The Polygon reviewer's opinion seems more congruent with my opinion of the game so far.

And, here is the launch trailer...
+ Show Spoiler +


Here is the opening cinematic.
+ Show Spoiler +
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FitBoy
Profile Joined September 2019
2 Posts
September 10 2019 11:14 GMT
#148
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-23 12:50:34
September 23 2019 12:48 GMT
#149
I am having a blast so far!

Level 15 right now, taking my time, exploring every nook and cranny of the map.
Playing with FL4K for my first playthrough, skilling mostly in the invisibility tree right now.
Gunplay is awesome, weapons are crazy, main story is fine. Obviously not as good as Jack, but far from terrible. Side quest are somewhere between awesome, funny and "wow that involves a lot of walking"
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
September 24 2019 07:09 GMT
#150
Meh. Somehow I'm not hyped for this game at all. None of the characters really strike my fancy.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-24 13:50:58
September 24 2019 13:45 GMT
#151


Angry Joe's review is out:
+ Show Spoiler +
Story is shit, but game is good/fun. Apparently they went for the approach "if the core gameplay ain't broke, don't fix it" I guess thats a big plus. IF you intend to play NG+ etc. and get the very best gear and multiplayer this is for you.
If you're like me and you're gonna play through it once for the jokes and story and characters, you're in for a disappointment.
Maya, Athena, Claptrap very minor roles. Only really Lilith takes forefront.
This is no longer about you being the biggest badass on the planet, this is HERstory and about girl power and Ava.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-24 15:06:50
September 24 2019 15:04 GMT
#152
I still don't get what the problem with the story is.

It feels very much like one dude said the story is "meh" and now everybody is jumping on that train without really pointing out the flaws or what bothers them personaly.

To Angry Joe:
Top of my head this reminds me of witcher 3 and it never bothered me there. Ciri was supposed to save the world, not me (Geralt). And there were a bunch of different kings and queens and important people and I am just the witcher, minding my business with no aspiration to become the hero of everything

EDIT: Short disclaimer. I haven't played it through yet. Maybe my opinion will change. Dunno yet


On September 24 2019 16:09 Manit0u wrote:
Meh. Somehow I'm not hyped for this game at all. None of the characters really strike my fancy.


You mean the story characters or the playable characters / classes?
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17242 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 10:41:24
September 26 2019 10:34 GMT
#153
On September 25 2019 00:04 Harris1st wrote:
I still don't get what the problem with the story is.

It feels very much like one dude said the story is "meh" and now everybody is jumping on that train without really pointing out the flaws or what bothers them personaly.

To Angry Joe:
Top of my head this reminds me of witcher 3 and it never bothered me there. Ciri was supposed to save the world, not me (Geralt). And there were a bunch of different kings and queens and important people and I am just the witcher, minding my business with no aspiration to become the hero of everything

EDIT: Short disclaimer. I haven't played it through yet. Maybe my opinion will change. Dunno yet


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On September 24 2019 16:09 Manit0u wrote:
Meh. Somehow I'm not hyped for this game at all. None of the characters really strike my fancy.


You mean the story characters or the playable characters / classes?


I mean both.

Also, for anyone wanting to check the game out, I'd wait for at least a month. Checked user reviews on various sites and it seems that majority of people are having some serious issues with the game (bugs, crashes, frame drops, DX12 not working, even high-end machines having trouble) and I'd personally wait until some bugfixes roll out.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 18:26:56
September 26 2019 17:34 GMT
#154
On September 26 2019 19:34 Manit0u wrote:
I'd personally wait until some bugfixes roll out.

i have 1000 hours in Borderlands 1 and about 1500 hours in Borderlands 2. I love the series. I reluctantly agree with you.

On September 26 2019 19:34 Manit0u wrote:
Also, for anyone wanting to check the game out, I'd wait for at least a month. Checked user reviews on various sites and it seems that majority of people are having some serious issues with the game (bugs, crashes, frame drops, DX12 not working, even high-end machines having trouble) and

in game combat has so many hitches , frame drops and stuttering on Intel/Nvidia machines. Aiming Down Site is a nightmare of hitches and stutters making the Sniper Rifle almost useless. You basically use the sniper rifle like its a hand gun if it has the right stats.

Fortunately, Gearbox has acknowledged these are problems and has taken a couple of steps forward in fixing them with promises for more performance patches in the future.

https://borderlands.com/en-US/news/2019-09-26-borderlands-3-patch-sept-26/


If one is lucky enough to own a machine that doesn't experience performance issues , stuttering and hitches during intense combat then Borderlands 3 is a 9/10 or 9.5/10.

If , however, your machine falls victim to these issues the game is a 6/10.

The pre-order people and week 1 buyers of Borderlands 3 are basically part of an expensive beta test.
Get this quote from the latest patch
If you’ve noticed a potential concern that has affected you that is not addressed in this update, please send us your data! Many factors are at work and collecting info from a variety of folks can go a long way to help us find commonalities, identify the root cause, and address confirmed issues.

This game is in Beta right now.

How could a man of Randy Pitchford's impeccable integrity have allowed this to happen?
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
September 27 2019 10:54 GMT
#155
Wow didn't realize there is this many performance problems. It does run rather smooth on my machine and frame drops are quite rare.

I have a AMD Ryzen 2600 coupled with a RTX 2060. So not that high end actually. Sure, I don't run it on ultra, but there is too much effect stuff on the screen anyway.
I just read that people had a lot of trouble with Killavolt which I don't really understand. I did it on the second try cause I needed one try to realize where all the damage comes from.
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10121 Posts
September 27 2019 11:24 GMT
#156
Yesterday there was an optimization fix, atleast i am not getting more stuttering (specially when aiming down the sights).

I don't play a Moze spam grenade build, so i don't have any more FPS issues.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
September 30 2019 07:59 GMT
#157
Level 28 now. Still not done with my first playthrough.

Apparently I did the most OP build by accident and it got nerfed now. Still pretty good build

Still having a blast. The only thing I dread is running through all the levels again to do challenges and something with those eridian inscriptions is surely to come
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sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
September 30 2019 12:22 GMT
#158
I've got about 200 hrs played and never had any issues.
Absolutely love the humour, eastereggs, and most importantly gameplay.

And that's despite being on Zane and at the moment farming a lot of bosses.

I can only recommend it - having an absolute blast.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-30 14:35:51
September 30 2019 14:35 GMT
#159
How's the super late game stuff? Is there repetitive endgame and grind to do for loot/etc. even after the multiple story playthroughs? I never dove in TOO deep in BL2 but all the UVHM seemed like it had potential for plenty of endgame and boss farming. But don't know if that's "stock" or will require some BL3 DLCs before it gets to that level again.

I already have my low expectations when it comes to the story and stuff but I still have an itch purely for the gun play that I can't get rid of, despite other massive time sinks like WoW atm.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
September 30 2019 17:11 GMT
#160
The Season's Pass has a 15% discount code on Green Man Gaming. Use the discount code AUTUMN15.

So if you bought the game at Walmart a couple of days after the game released for $50 USD and then use this GMG discount code you got the game at the same price as the people who pre-ordered the $100 USD version.

If you elected to just buy the main Borderlands3 game you spent less than the pre-order people who forked over between $54 and $60 USD.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
October 02 2019 07:27 GMT
#161
I'm not much of a season pass person. Chances are, when the DLCs are released I'm playing another game and it would just add to my pile of shame.

200 hours already? Get a life! Just kidding. I have no idea how much I played so far. Where you can see that in the epic launcher?
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Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
October 03 2019 21:23 GMT
#162
Bought to play with a friend as we did BL1 and BL2 toget her.

Story and "humor" is as inane and stupid as ever. Possibly more. The gunplay is serviceable, but don't expect to be even remotely challenged. Talents are once again forgettable filler.

Cutscenes cannot be skipped, ever. Horrible intro is suicide-inducing the third time around.

At around 30-40 hours we were just sitting there and yawning. Even for a master of dull gameplay such as myself, this was too much.

If you are considering a purchase, I highly recommend you to stay away. This is a corporate piece of shit made with a singular goal: milk customers as much as possible with as little effort as possible. Spend your money elsewhere.
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iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
October 04 2019 07:18 GMT
#163
On October 04 2019 06:23 Ethenielle wrote:
If you are considering a purchase, I highly recommend you to stay away. This is a corporate piece of shit made with a singular goal: milk customers as much as possible with as little effort as possible. Spend your money elsewhere.

50 bucks for 40+ hours of fun seems like a pretty good deal to me.
But what do I know.
I better listen to more random internet dudes telling me what to do ...
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2535 Posts
October 05 2019 02:12 GMT
#164
On October 04 2019 16:18 iXphobos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2019 06:23 Ethenielle wrote:
If you are considering a purchase, I highly recommend you to stay away. This is a corporate piece of shit made with a singular goal: milk customers as much as possible with as little effort as possible. Spend your money elsewhere.

50 bucks for 40+ hours of fun seems like a pretty good deal to me.
But what do I know.
I better listen to more random internet dudes telling me what to do ...


Their review made it sound more like "If you stopped playing the old games, don't bother playing the new one, because it doesn't add new kinds of fun, just more of the same"

Which is a review I appreciate.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
October 15 2019 14:28 GMT
#165
Still having a blast. Still no idea where Epic shows hours played. Haven't found any achievements either (only the ingame stuff "killed 200 beast on planet x" or whatever).
Any of you guys know where I can see those? Google hasn't helped yet either

Played Beastmaster to lvl 50 and started a Siren now. Haven't done much endgame with the Beastmaster yet. Mayhem Mode is damn hard in Bossfights ^^ Maybe I need more Guardian ranks (15 right now)

Pity they haven't announced a official roadmap yet. By the time the first new stuff comes around I am probably playing something else at this pace :/
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bertolo
Profile Joined June 2010
United States133 Posts
October 15 2019 14:54 GMT
#166
Still waiting on that Steam release.

Unless they announced something new with the game I don't know why they would have a roadmap for this. It is a game of old that will have dlc later like bl2 is my assumption. If they claimed this as a service I won't even bother picking it up.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
October 16 2019 08:22 GMT
#167
On October 15 2019 23:54 bertolo wrote:
Still waiting on that Steam release.

Unless they announced something new with the game I don't know why they would have a roadmap for this. It is a game of old that will have dlc later like bl2 is my assumption. If they claimed this as a service I won't even bother picking it up.


That's what I meant. I expected them to announce a DLC by now, preferable with some cool Arena modes as well as new weapons, skills? and some side missions?
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bertolo
Profile Joined June 2010
United States133 Posts
October 16 2019 10:31 GMT
#168
I mean it has only been a month. I think you are hoping too soon. I don't know any details though I haven't kept up with anything after they went exclusive.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
October 16 2019 10:58 GMT
#169
Just found this

First buyable DLC is expected in the first quarter of 2020, until then we get a Halloween event + an event that comes probably around Christmas

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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-27 19:22:23
October 27 2019 19:01 GMT
#170
Hello,

Wanted to buy it to play with my wife. Do i need TWO copies ? (i will buy PC version with a box) or can we play multiplayer with only one ?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
October 27 2019 20:43 GMT
#171
I recommend buying 2 copies for the reasons outlined below:

#1 Split Screen Co-op on console has all kinds of performance issues. Therefore, trying to play co-op with 1 copy on XBOX1 or PS4 right now is annoying and problematic..

#2. 2 copies on 2 separate PC machines is a more practical way to play the game because it doesn't have nearly as many performance issues.

#3. If you own 2 different XBOX1's or 2 different PS4's you can play co-op on separate machines. There is no "cross play" between PS4, XBOX1 and PC.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
October 28 2019 18:37 GMT
#172
On October 28 2019 05:43 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I recommend buying 2 copies for the reasons outlined below:

#1 Split Screen Co-op on console has all kinds of performance issues. Therefore, trying to play co-op with 1 copy on XBOX1 or PS4 right now is annoying and problematic..

#2. 2 copies on 2 separate PC machines is a more practical way to play the game because it doesn't have nearly as many performance issues.

#3. If you own 2 different XBOX1's or 2 different PS4's you can play co-op on separate machines. There is no "cross play" between PS4, XBOX1 and PC.


Hi. I will play on PC. I do not own consoles . When i meant "box" it was like the pancacke. not xbox
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
March 16 2020 00:10 GMT
#173
So now 6 months have passed since the release and it's now available on Steam. Anyone have any changed opinions on the game, for better or worse, for the people who waited to buy it?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
March 16 2020 06:48 GMT
#174
Haven't played since the halloween event.

As my opinion stands: If you get 1 hour of enjoyable playtime out of every dollar you paid, you are good to go
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
May 30 2020 18:56 GMT
#175
The Borderlands Handsome Collection is FREE on the Epic Game Store for a short time.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
July 04 2020 04:43 GMT
#176
check out the mask my Borderlands//Destiny2//Starcraft playing partner made.

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when it comes to crafting skills... she has more talent in her little finger than i have in my entire body.
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franthes51
Profile Joined June 2020
1 Post
Last Edited: 2020-07-07 13:45:19
July 07 2020 13:45 GMT
#177
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
July 09 2020 20:38 GMT
#178
This is the song that plays in my head when Raynor and I play Borderlands 3 together!



I need to make another mask so he and I can wear them while we play.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-09 20:59:26
July 09 2020 20:39 GMT
#179
with all these political protests going on ... i'd like to attend one while wearing a Psycho mask.. I'd fit right in!
question is...
is art imitating life? or is life imitating art?

i recently walked thru ... what could be described as a modern day "Borderlands Bandit Camp" in a public park.


it is really quite impressive that Pitchford and the fiction writers at Gearbox foreshadowed these events. Healthcare resources have been cut in Canada over the past 25 years or so. The first thing they cut and cut deepest were resources dedicated towards dealing with mental health. Mental health treatments are far more abstract and intangible than a double bypass heart surgery. So its much easier to make cuts to mental health. Unfortunately, these cutbacks to mental health are now manifesting themselves on the streets of Canada's biggest cities.

Ok , enough philosophy. I think Gearbox is going with new skill trees rather than entire new vault hunters in order to lower the amount of play-testing required for any new content they have.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Borderlands/comments/hnvevz/what_we_know_about_the_new_action_skills_so_far/
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KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
July 09 2020 21:10 GMT
#180
On July 10 2020 05:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
with all these political protests going on ... i'd like to attend one while wearing a Psycho mask.. I'd fit right in!
question is...
is art imitating life? or is life imitating art?

i recently walked thru ... what could be described as a modern day "Borderlands Bandit Camp" in a public park.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HH-CsI7V-o

it is really quite impressive that Pitchford and the fiction writers at Gearbox foreshadowed these events. Healthcare resources have been cut in Canada over the past 25 years or so. The first thing they cut and cut deepest were resources dedicated towards dealing with mental health. Mental health treatments are far more abstract and intangible than a double bypass heart surgery. So its much easier to make cuts to mental health. Unfortunately, these cutbacks to mental health are now manifesting themselves on the streets of Canada's biggest cities.

Ok , enough philosophy. I think Gearbox is going with new skill trees rather than entire new vault hunters in order to lower the amount of play-testing required for any new content they have.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Borderlands/comments/hnvevz/what_we_know_about_the_new_action_skills_so_far/


It is like that here in the U.S. as well, since mental-health and addiction services are overburdened and underfunded. Covid-19 is wreaking havoc on the system which didn't get any of the stimulus $$. I've seen similar "Bandit camps" here and this year they seem to be growing in number and size.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
August 10 2020 22:22 GMT
#181
Borderlands 3 is Free 2 Play on Steam for the next 42 hours. I recommend it.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/397540/Borderlands_3/
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KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
October 08 2020 15:43 GMT
#182
I got a present in the mail today! YAY

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Not as cool as the full psycho mask I made, but unfortunately that mask is not compliant for my office.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-18 15:32:33
August 18 2024 15:29 GMT
#183
No one thinks the Borderlands movie is good. There are no celebrations... no watch parties... nothing. The latest Borderlands franchise sales don't put any of the games at prices lower than they've been in the past. Hell, Borderlands 3 was totally free for a week on Epic a couple of years ago.

So there is no big sale and the movie is really bad.

And yet, all 3 games are surging on Steam. They've doubled their player counts the past 14 days. Figure that one out. The latest golden key codes posted by Randy Pitchford experienced record uptake by the player base. EpicNNG's really cool Borderlands3 MOD had 10,000 downloads this month. What is going on?

Possibly the buzzards circling the Destiny2 corpse are moving over to Warframe and Borderlands. That's a total guess.... I dunno WTF is going on.
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gingerfluffmuffnr2
Profile Joined February 2024
107 Posts
August 18 2024 16:07 GMT
#184
Its the Deus Ex phenomen.

When it is mentioned, it will be installed and played by people.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-18 20:52:27
August 18 2024 20:50 GMT
#185
my "doubled player counts" is incorrect. Borderlands 1 is up 1000%. Borderlands 3 is up 400% and Borderlands 2 is up 250%.
On August 19 2024 01:07 gingerfluffmuffnr2 wrote:
Its the Deus Ex phenomen.
When it is mentioned, it will be installed and played by people.

ah that could very well be the case!

When GameSpy died Gearbox spent the money to get Borderlands 1 on Steam. EA let all their C&C games die after GameSpy went down. Gearbox patched the Borderlands games on the Nintendo Switch recently. They especially improved Borderlands3 on the Switch. It runs ~45FPS. Its a miracle.
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IsraelWilliams
Profile Joined August 2024
15 Posts
August 26 2024 04:00 GMT
#186
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-26 19:05:14
August 26 2024 19:04 GMT
#187
The movie failed so badly that it will be available on streaming August 30. I suggest waiting until August 30th.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16678 Posts
August 28 2024 22:23 GMT
#188
Over all, in totality, at a macro level Randy Pitchford has done a great job nourishing and supporting the Borderlands franchise. Its been really cool. That said, the guy lies .. .a lot. And not just little white lies to paper over small issues. We're talking giant whoppers... big macs.
"When you tell a lie... keep it simple... and keep repeating it.. eventually they'll believe you"



Randy, Randy, Randy...

My advice is to make 100% certain Borderlands4 will run smoothly on your PC configuration before purchasing it. Borderlands 4 might be great. Best thing to do ... is wait.
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