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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
September 01 2019 06:16 GMT
#321
Saw some guild called "sapped girls cant say no". The fuck is wrong with people lol.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 07:23:51
September 01 2019 06:18 GMT
#322
On August 29 2019 05:02 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
I forgot leveling was this bad. So...much...walking in durotar after you get out of Senjin village. Not to mention all the confusing ravines and lack of connecting quests. 8 to 11 took me ages

Not to mention Org is the only flightpoint lol


Aye, levelling takes twice as long in classic.They halved the level time around 2008-9 i think it was?
I'm on fairbanks.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 06:27:19
September 01 2019 06:21 GMT
#323
On September 01 2019 15:16 TheEmulator wrote:
Saw some guild called "sapped girls cant say no". The fuck is wrong with people lol.


That's a pretty ancient meme but also won't last long if reported

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I'm (finally) coming up on 40 and with plenty of gold, should be able to instabuy mount
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 07:25:41
September 01 2019 07:25 GMT
#324
Wow, Molten Core got nerfed a lot compared to its initial state to be cleared that fast. That's super disappointing. I'm guessing only Ahn'Qiraj will be decently tough as that's the last instance in classic and the patch at the Classic servers are already in that state. Probably not either, as there have been a few patches after that as well.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 08:13:55
September 01 2019 08:09 GMT
#325
On September 01 2019 16:25 HolydaKing wrote:
Wow, Molten Core got nerfed a lot compared to its initial state to be cleared that fast. That's super disappointing. I'm guessing only Ahn'Qiraj will be decently tough as that's the last instance in classic and the patch at the Classic servers are already in that state. Probably not either, as there have been a few patches after that as well.

I'm gonna take a wild guess that you don't know what you're talking about if you think AQ is the last instance of classic? Lol

Also it's not that MC was nerfed, it's that classic raids were never hard, especially not MC.

Reminder Onyxia, also a 40 man raid, was 4-manned while classic was current.

The hardest part of the hardest raid in classic wow was having 8 tanks geared to handle horsemen. It's not mechanical, it's not a player skill issue, because the mechanical side of it is easy.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22560 Posts
September 01 2019 08:33 GMT
#326
On September 01 2019 16:25 HolydaKing wrote:
Wow, Molten Core got nerfed a lot compared to its initial state to be cleared that fast. That's super disappointing. I'm guessing only Ahn'Qiraj will be decently tough as that's the last instance in classic and the patch at the Classic servers are already in that state. Probably not either, as there have been a few patches after that as well.
In a sense it is nerfed because Classic is 1.12 which has talent changes + gear changes which give more power.

BUT, MC (or any old raid really) was never hard. There are no difficult mechanics at all, there is no enrage, no gear check worth speaking off.
Every single Classic raid going forward is going to be cleared in a few hours at most of it opening up.

And calling AQ the end when Naxx was kinda shows how little you know.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 08:39:41
September 01 2019 08:33 GMT
#327
Right, I forgot Naxx. But yes, I never played any big raid after MC in Classic (went to BG PvP) so I indeed don't know much about how it looked later. I guarantee you the later bosses in MC were not easy in the first patch MC was being tried. Or everyone sucked. From what I read it took the first guild 74 days to go from Majordomo to clear Ragnaros, and I'm pretty sure it's not only because people are just way better now (so much that many people aren't even max level) but because of patch changes as well. Oh and add-ons of course.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22560 Posts
September 01 2019 08:35 GMT
#328
On September 01 2019 17:33 HolydaKing wrote:
Right, I forgot Naxx. But yes, I never played anything after MC in Classic so I indeed don't know much about how it looked later. I guarantee you the later bosses in MC were not easy in the first patch MC was being tried. Or everyone sucked. From what I read it took the first guild 74 days to go from Majordomo to clear Ragnaros, and I'm pretty sure it's not because people are just way better now (so much that many people aren't even max level) but because of patch changes..
No, everyone sucked back then. We had no clue what we were doing.
Yes people are WAY better now.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 08:46:49
September 01 2019 08:46 GMT
#329
Besides that MC is not and never was a hard raid...

They basically assembled 40 hardcore players. Each probably has killed Ragnaros 100+ times during the last 14 years. Every mechanic of the fight is known and well understood (and there aren't that many in the first place).
Theorycrafting is also on a so much higher level than it was back then.

Even in 2005/2006, when 20 out of the 40 players assembled in our raid weren't terrible, we blasted through it.

It is a little bit surprising to me that it was so quick, but after second thought it actually isn't.

BWL might be tougher because there is more one shot mechanics and maybe the gear isn't there yet. But with enough consumables it might be easily doable as well.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 09:58:15
September 01 2019 08:58 GMT
#330
The damage & health of bosses in general just seems much lower than we've been used to for a long time
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
September 01 2019 09:52 GMT
#331
People knowing what they're doing is probably 95% of why the old content is cleared so easily now, even in laughable gear and below level 60. Patch changes and addons are the other 5%, tops.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
September 01 2019 11:08 GMT
#332
Progressive private servers (where gear and talents are made to be like original vanilla and then progressively changed over time) also clear ragnaros crazy fast, because even on 1.0 it was an easy raid. People were just bad and didn't know what to do.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
September 01 2019 19:29 GMT
#333
I love how hard people are shitting on method for not getting world first and they weren't even trying to race lol

Kind of unfortunate how toxic the retail/classic split is.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 20:27:18
September 01 2019 20:26 GMT
#334
I don't think its even the split it just is straight up toxicity from anything in classic right now its awful lol. Streamer chats are "at war" with eachother being stupid and players are being awful to each other its quite crazy lol.

Gonna take a month for this all to die down and the people who genuinely wanted classic and want to play it will get their game they want and everyone else will either be back on retail or back to fornite xD

On that note also, last night playing with my friends i noticed people in trade asking such new questions it was insane. Genuine new players playing WoW in 2019 i never thought i would have seen that, its amazing to think that people are picking up this game for the first time.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
September 01 2019 22:19 GMT
#335
I love how hard people are shitting on method for not getting world first and they weren't even trying to race lol


I think a lot of it is just memeing since the whole event is called "race to world first" and they brought up the first to 60, rag & onyxia stuff so many times. They weren't really in the competition as they died when half of method was still high 40's to starting the 50's.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
September 01 2019 23:19 GMT
#336
https://classic.wowhead.com/news=294852/free-level-110-boost-and-bfa-expansion-for-level-60-players-in-classic
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
September 02 2019 00:41 GMT
#337
I’ve got a friend who is playing for the first time. She takes her time in town, does a lot of fishing and cooking haha.

I’m personally looking forward to more people getting 60 and the price of crafting mats going up so I can start making gold.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-02 05:21:04
September 02 2019 00:57 GMT
#338
Yeah, it's been funny watching the prices as i level. Some materials were super expensive if you got to them fast, then fell to below vendor price on AH overnight as the supply wave hit.

Thanks to player reports and feedback, we’ve identified a bug affecting how XP was calculated for parties of 6 or more players.

We are rolling out a hotfix right now, to all realms, that should correct this. Going forward, XP awarded should be significantly lower for parties of 6 or more players.

Again, thank you very much for your feedback.


Slightly annoying that they fix this after the wave of people using it got pretty much to 60 but before other people did, oh well. They were getting 2.8x the intended experience for 10-man groups.

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https://classic.wowhead.com/news=294853/hunter-caster-pets-glitch-seems-to-be-fixed-in-classic-wow

My opinion on this is that it's fine having the pets have proper stats, although it's quite likely that it's an oversight rather than an intentional change. I can see why some people might not like it (as these pets used to just suck and be completely irrelevant, so why shouldn't they now?) but i'd keep the change personally because it's not really harming the spirit of the game.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10947 Posts
September 02 2019 07:24 GMT
#339
On September 02 2019 05:26 Pandemona wrote:
I don't think its even the split it just is straight up toxicity from anything in classic right now its awful lol. Streamer chats are "at war" with eachother being stupid and players are being awful to each other its quite crazy lol.

Gonna take a month for this all to die down and the people who genuinely wanted classic and want to play it will get their game they want and everyone else will either be back on retail or back to fornite xD

On that note also, last night playing with my friends i noticed people in trade asking such new questions it was insane. Genuine new players playing WoW in 2019 i never thought i would have seen that, its amazing to think that people are picking up this game for the first time.


Thats plain wrong?

The community is ridiculously nice. I didn't join any Guild yet but just two random examples, i could come up with MANY of These:

I group with a guy for 15 minutes to do some random quest because we were tired of Tagging each others mobs, no other interaction. He see's that i'm Alchemist --> Gives me the herbs he found in a chest, whiteout asking.
2 People tag a Questmob a second before i am there… They stop hitting it when its at 20%, invite me into their group, wait for me to actually dmg it and then ask if it's "ok" to kill it now.

But then again, i'm now lvl 25. Which is for sure a bit ahead of the curve but behind the tryhard crowd that took days off and there are no streamers/twitch idiots on my server.
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
September 02 2019 07:48 GMT
#340
The leveling, world, atmosphere, and overall experience is much better in classic. The actual content is infinitely worse, but this is not news in the slightest and obviously different people like different things.

Im still raiding on retail, but since I have 66 neck and don't really need to grind anything, that time I mostly spend on classic now.
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