• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:22
CEST 00:22
KST 07:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced11Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid20
StarCraft 2
General
2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
Data needed ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
McBoner: A hockey love story 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1488 users

Anthem [PC/PS4/Xbox One] - Page 8

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 20 Next All
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 22 2019 13:36 GMT
#141
I must say the combat is what I expected, still early in the game, but Fort Tarsus is effing too quiet.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1944 Posts
February 22 2019 13:48 GMT
#142
On February 22 2019 22:27 Artisreal wrote:
Tbh 160 bucks is not that much if you get 500+hrs of entertainment... Not every game is dota 2 where everything is free but the time you invest in while maintaining a very good and mostly polished product with incredible replayability and depth.

Would I, personally, pay this for a loot shooter? No.


The fact that there are people who think 160 bucks for any game is "not that much" is concerning.
The fact that there are people who say they wouldn't even pay it themselves, but still think it's an ok price is more concerning.
The fact that people are even willing to wait for 2 years after a game's release to get to enjoy their 160 buck investment is also concerning.

Do people not want a game to be /a finished game/ when when they are released? blows my mind.
I don't believe you.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7150 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-22 13:52:10
February 22 2019 13:49 GMT
#143
On February 22 2019 22:21 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 21:48 Harris1st wrote:
On February 22 2019 21:23 Yarcc wrote:
Now that I've done my grind for endgame gear, All I can say you can get about 2 days worth of playing at end game before it feels too repetitive.

Also End game gear (leggys/MW gear) are way too powerful compared to epics or gear you end campain with. Good legendary weapon and components just are 5x more powerful than any before. Weapons having random rolls with +200% damage are absurd. Its not even fun before you get any of those gears, cause you know, everything after grandmaster is basically balanced around this OP stuff. GM2/3 are more balanced around the fact that you have team syenergies which give benefits from combos (which is impossible to manage with LFR style tool). You can ofcourse clear whole GM2/3 with just patience and cheesy strats, but it takes more time than clearing gm1 3-4 times, which gives good chunk of MW and legendaries.

Overall, its basically startting point of loot&shooter which needs lot of time to develope to actually compete any other looter shooter around there(div, destiny). If you absolutely love iron man style gameplay, its good game. But if you're just generic loot&shooter fan, it wont tick many boxes on your expectation list.

edit. typos and such. Also quick heads up, mission with skar base (not the acid thingie), everyone leaves after 2nd chest. Used to be "THE" speed gearing tactic and no one sticks for last boss even after they made it guarantee drop MW (or so goes hearsay in reddit).


Destiny 2 was a complete clusterfuck at release but now (or since Forsaken release) it's a pretty decent game IMO.
I never expected Anthem to deliver the perfect endgame at release anyway, so that doesn't bother me much
And how much money will you have invested in D2 by the point it has gotten to a 'pretty decent game'?
Base game + Season pass + Forsaken + season pass.
Sorry if my standards are slightly higher then 160? bucks for decent.


Me personally? Not much
I never bought Destiny 2 cause I knew it was a clusterfuck.
I got it for free, then bought Forsaken including Osiris and Warmind.
So about 50 bucks. Since I am not that hardcore into Looter-Shooter grind I got about 200 hrs out of it until I got bored.

I also didn't pay a cent for Anthem though, got it for free with my RTX GPU ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Edit: My probably best games in hours/ money invested would be Heroes and Starcraft 2.
Both were in retrospect ridicolously cheap for the 1000 hours I played :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Yarcc
Profile Joined August 2017
Finland27 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-22 14:03:00
February 22 2019 14:02 GMT
#144
I actually compare this to launch versions of destiny 1/2 and division 1. Those games have about triple the content in compare to this one. I dont know about which is moneys worth, cause technicly you can enjoy full game right now for 15 bucks.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
February 22 2019 14:11 GMT
#145
On February 22 2019 22:48 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 22:27 Artisreal wrote:
Tbh 160 bucks is not that much if you get 500+hrs of entertainment... Not every game is dota 2 where everything is free but the time you invest in while maintaining a very good and mostly polished product with incredible replayability and depth.

Would I, personally, pay this for a loot shooter? No.


The fact that there are people who think 160 bucks for any game is "not that much" is concerning.
The fact that there are people who say they wouldn't even pay it themselves, but still think it's an ok price is more concerning.
The fact that people are even willing to wait for 2 years after a game's release to get to enjoy their 160 buck investment is also concerning.

Do people not want a game to be /a finished game/ when when they are released? blows my mind.

I'm absolutely willing to pay for quality content.
You really have to take into perspective what you're being delivered, of course, that's absolutely what I've said.
I just think it's ridiculous to expect years and years of updates, basically unlimited replayability and endless endgame (to be a bit hyperbole here) - and all that for 60 quid. I'd be hard pressed to shell out 160 at the start without knowing the product and its progression over time, but 30 or 40 bucks à year for annoter 100+ hours of gameplay... That's fine in my book.

Don't get me wrong, what I'm saying is not supposed to defend a game that ships while still in development. Like EA aparently did with anthem.

Having a couple of patches that get the balance /drop rate /whatever right after launch is fine. Player feedback is essential in getting things right.
passive quaranstream fan
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1944 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-22 14:24:44
February 22 2019 14:22 GMT
#146
It's not 60 quid for years and years of updates.
It's 60 quid + microtransactions.

It's also not ridiculous to expect updates for a game after it launches, it's been done for ages before this.
It's IS ridiculous to think that any AAA publisher these days would go for "years and years of updates"(quality updates at least) instead of just making Anthem 2 or Destiny 2, like it already happened.

I mean, don't get me wrong too, if any publisher would ever get me a QUALITY game with years and years of updates, and endless endgame, I wouldn't mind paying 160 too. But It's never going to happen. Ever.
I don't believe you.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 22 2019 14:49 GMT
#147
I think this is what is at the root of the problem with games as a service, they should be free to play with MT thrown in for cosmetics, in game pets etc. Then Bioware/EA could sell the DLC's and expansions. No complaints would be heard.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7150 Posts
February 22 2019 14:59 GMT
#148
On February 22 2019 23:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I think this is what is at the root of the problem with games as a service, they should be free to play with MT thrown in for cosmetics, in game pets etc. Then Bioware/EA could sell the DLC's and expansions. No complaints would be heard.


It does work for games like Guild Wars 2 and the likes. Can't fault them for trying

But you guys are right. People nowadays pay way too much for way too little. The whole early access stuff for example.
And Pre-Order boni.

It has come so far that people pre-order an early access title like Anthem and are even paying for additional microtransactions... what a world we live in.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 22 2019 15:53 GMT
#149
EA management has been set on making one of these loot shooters for a while now and its clear all the decisions about this game were made based on that. The part that is stupid is how they slammed it out the door way to early and made a demo that the developers clearly were not ready to release. All while forcing bioware to use the frostbite engine, which was designed for games like battlefield.

By summer this game will be cleaned up and likely run fine, with better loot and more content. EA just dumped all this money into the game and then kicked it out the door before it was done because they didn’t want to anger shareholders with a 4 month delay.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 22 2019 16:26 GMT
#150
Upcoming changes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/atjevm/anthem_current_and_upcoming_changes_2222019/
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 22 2019 18:56 GMT
#151
humh...sounds like a nope to me but will(not 'would') buy this game sooner or later because unlike destiny i dont need to pay moar for DLCs
of all the big four,EA's the only one seems like they really want to step up the curent bussiness model with BF and anthem and i think people are over-bashing them
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17462 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-22 20:38:16
February 22 2019 20:20 GMT
#152
The Fur Is Flyin' !
a trail of deleted tweets and statements like "i was taken out of context" LOL.
the article keeps getting updated as EA keeps trying to cover its ass on statements that were probably lies with EA trying to make it look like a "misunderstanding"

https://www.vg247.com/2019/02/22/paid-review-anthem-youtuber/

I say this thing gets "Humbled" before November 1.

Everyone is saying the AI of the enemies is crap and the combat is lame. Based on how Datto described the combat I can understand why very few people like the combat.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 22 2019 20:44 GMT
#153
It appears that EA contests that they pay for reviews of their games.

https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/youtuber-says-ea-demanded-takedown-paid-review-1203146117/

“Our GameChangers program is not designed to pay for review content. We don’t believe in that. In this case, the conditions for disclosure for this specific video were not met – which is something we adhere very strictly to – so we asked for it to be taken down and corrected. We’ve not asked for the content of the video to be changed, or ‘blacklisted’ the creator. Our full disclosure rules can be found here: https://www.ea.com/game-changers/disclosure.”


Which is in line with the requirements created by the FTC for advertising. Paying for a review is not a good plan and quickly runs afoul of those regulations. The pervasive myth that video game publishers pay for positive review, or reviews at all has always mystified me. There are so many more effective ways to spend a marketing budget.

My bet is that EA asked him to review the water mark specifically because he put up a review and they did not want any confusion that they paid for any reviews.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 22 2019 20:58 GMT
#154
Gotta say that I was going to get this on release day, but then Apex came out. Still going to get this although it seems like it's good that I have something to occupy myself for a month or so before getting this.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
February 22 2019 21:54 GMT
#155
I'm gonna go through the story in a month using the origin thingy and never touch the game again I think. Just don't have the team and tenacity to do a grind game.

Although if the story keeps on being shat on I'll rethink even that.
passive quaranstream fan
Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-22 23:24:54
February 22 2019 23:11 GMT
#156
On February 22 2019 22:48 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 22:27 Artisreal wrote:
Tbh 160 bucks is not that much if you get 500+hrs of entertainment... Not every game is dota 2 where everything is free but the time you invest in while maintaining a very good and mostly polished product with incredible replayability and depth.

Would I, personally, pay this for a loot shooter? No.


The fact that there are people who think 160 bucks for any game is "not that much" is concerning.
The fact that there are people who say they wouldn't even pay it themselves, but still think it's an ok price is more concerning.
The fact that people are even willing to wait for 2 years after a game's release to get to enjoy their 160 buck investment is also concerning.

Do people not want a game to be /a finished game/ when when they are released? blows my mind.


Times have changed dude, things are different... I don't know about you, but I'm 27 yo, so I have grown in an era when you got what you paid for, and THEN you could like the game or not. They had their flaws for sure, but bugs didn't break the game, and you got the full content... maybe a couple of expansions in the future... You didn't pay for a game hoping to become what you were told after many months. I don't know, maybe in the future when you buy a car it will have flat tires and damaged suspension, which will be fixed 2 months after you have paid for it.

It really blows my mind too... how some people got to a point where "It will be a good game in 6 months" justifies buying a game in day 1 at full prize. And its more frequent every year.

Someone said above that EA is "stepping up the current business". He should know that their objective is taking our money, so a step up for them means a step back for us, because we are not getting a better product in exchange of that money, on the contrary as we are seeing with many AAA lately... And I can get through DLCs like the Total War ones, you know, 15€ for a race and a short campaign, even when I think they are WAY overprized, because you get already a full content with the base game. But this "you will get the game you paid for in 6-12 months, because we know you are ok with it" shit is getting annoying.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9573 Posts
February 24 2019 07:13 GMT
#157
I wanted to post AngryJoe's review here because his review is very inclusive of everything, and gives examples. Not just talk, but also showing what he's talking about.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-24 11:11:38
February 24 2019 11:10 GMT
#158
On February 23 2019 08:11 Elmonti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2019 22:48 abuse wrote:
On February 22 2019 22:27 Artisreal wrote:
Tbh 160 bucks is not that much if you get 500+hrs of entertainment... Not every game is dota 2 where everything is free but the time you invest in while maintaining a very good and mostly polished product with incredible replayability and depth.

Would I, personally, pay this for a loot shooter? No.


The fact that there are people who think 160 bucks for any game is "not that much" is concerning.
The fact that there are people who say they wouldn't even pay it themselves, but still think it's an ok price is more concerning.
The fact that people are even willing to wait for 2 years after a game's release to get to enjoy their 160 buck investment is also concerning.

Do people not want a game to be /a finished game/ when when they are released? blows my mind.


Times have changed dude, things are different... I don't know about you, but I'm 27 yo, so I have grown in an era when you got what you paid for, and THEN you could like the game or not. They had their flaws for sure, but bugs didn't break the game, and you got the full content... maybe a couple of expansions in the future... You didn't pay for a game hoping to become what you were told after many months. I don't know, maybe in the future when you buy a car it will have flat tires and damaged suspension, which will be fixed 2 months after you have paid for it.

It really blows my mind too... how some people got to a point where "It will be a good game in 6 months" justifies buying a game in day 1 at full prize. And its more frequent every year.

Someone said above that EA is "stepping up the current business". He should know that their objective is taking our money, so a step up for them means a step back for us, because we are not getting a better product in exchange of that money, on the contrary as we are seeing with many AAA lately... And I can get through DLCs like the Total War ones, you know, 15€ for a race and a short campaign, even when I think they are WAY overprized, because you get already a full content with the base game. But this "you will get the game you paid for in 6-12 months, because we know you are ok with it" shit is getting annoying.


The only genre where it works is multiplayer games. Where you want to be on top of the curve from the start and have full servers for fast games. A single player game doing the same would tank much harder since there is much less premium about a release. Though the biggest titles sadly get a pass here as well.

If you take a niche multiplayer RTS game you likely can't find multiplayer games after a year. So waiting for them to fix it wouldn't work if you want to play it at all.

Personally I play single player games and Dota, so doesn't really effect me that much.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17462 Posts
February 25 2019 02:22 GMT
#159
AngryJoe gave Destiny2 a 6/10 and he gave Anthem 4/10. Very few people are rating Anthem as highly as Destiny2.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7150 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-25 09:17:29
February 25 2019 09:15 GMT
#160
I'm playing this very casually (I think 5 hours so far) and I'm fine with it. No technical issues or bugs yet.
The combat is really fun. Did go for the storm immediately and raining down hell is awesome.
Story is okay, nice cutscences, funny dialogues. Freeplay with a pug is super boring cause everyone does their own thing. Haven't tried strongholds yet


I guess it's not worth 60 bucks, but if it goes down to 40' ish in a few month and when the bugs are fixed I can definitely recommend this. Problem might be that Division 2 launches in 3 weeks and then nobody cares about Anthem anymore
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
22:15
Best Games of SC
Rogue vs MaxPax
Maru vs Zoun
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs TBD
PiGStarcraft0
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 187
PiGStarcraft0
StarCraft: Brood War
Aegong 117
firebathero 79
LancerX 7
Dota 2
febbydoto9
Counter-Strike
shahzam323
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken1
Other Games
gofns19117
tarik_tv8728
summit1g7075
Grubby3118
FrodaN1021
C9.Mang0267
RotterdaM175
mouzStarbuck154
Trikslyr145
Mew2King36
PPMD29
Livibee25
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV259
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta35
• mYiSmile120
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 53
• FirePhoenix12
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift2626
Other Games
• imaqtpie1058
• Scarra464
• Shiphtur274
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
4h 39m
CranKy Ducklings
11h 39m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
12h 39m
SC Evo League
15h 9m
IPSL
17h 39m
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
20h 39m
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Patches Events
23h 39m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 1h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 11h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 12h
[ Show More ]
Ladder Legends
1d 16h
BSL
1d 20h
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
1d 20h
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Escore
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-16
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W3
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.