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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
May 17 2018 09:47 GMT
#21
Both Heroic and OpTic are delivering more than what could be expected from them (OpTic being least surprising).

At this point I'd like to see North being dismantled and the best players sent to these teams to improve them. I.e. Kjaerbye / valde to either Optic / Heroic.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
May 17 2018 13:09 GMT
#22
On May 17 2018 18:47 Ragnarork wrote:
Both Heroic and OpTic are delivering more than what could be expected from them (OpTic being least surprising).

At this point I'd like to see North being dismantled and the best players sent to these teams to improve them. I.e. Kjaerbye / valde to either Optic / Heroic.


I dont know about that, its a bit to much of a flash in the pan for me to say they are up there yet.

Even if it isnt, Optics roster is solid enough roster with the additions, maybe you could add a Valde for a gade.

Heroic has always had upset potential and one could argue the reason they are doing as well as they are is precisely because of the personel they have and adding a Valde/Kjaerbye may upset the balance
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-17 18:18:19
May 17 2018 18:17 GMT
#23
Dunno if we can say much about Heroic compared to their history, as there aren't many players left from their stable rosters. JUGi, valde and Snappi aren't there anymore.

Also true that all this might just be a flash in the pan, though I'd believe it's not and it won't just be a fluke.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-17 19:29:25
May 17 2018 18:23 GMT
#24
Yes this Heroic is basically just a mix team. But that was my point, the mix team is working probably because theyve lucked into a nice balanced lineup that might get upset if you added something to it
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 17 2018 20:17 GMT
#25
Why is Stewie on SK, why is Optic Danish

what the hell
WriterXiao8~~
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 17 2018 23:51 GMT
#26
Another NaVi vs astralis final would be great.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-18 08:56:42
May 18 2018 08:56 GMT
#27
On May 18 2018 05:17 Kipsate wrote:
Why is Stewie on SK, why is Optic Danish

what the hell


Oh hi, it seems your cryo-cycle is over. Welcome to a new era of CS.
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-18 13:13:40
May 18 2018 13:13 GMT
#28
i'm sad about optic go jugi!
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 18 2018 19:08 GMT
#29
TACO is playing at such a high level!

but ropz, man i haven't seen ropz THIS BAD, and oscar is missing and missing shots.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-18 20:54:03
May 18 2018 20:44 GMT
#30
And on the flipside, Karrigan is outskilling SK players.

And Rain pretty much solo wrecking SK every other round.

The teams are pretty evenly matched otherwise. But every play he has made has been electric.

And frankly even if you took Rain out of the equation, SK is just getting out dueled more often than the should be at critical points.

Fer and Cold shouldnt be losing advantageous duels to Xist and Karrigan as often as they are.

nothing super tactical going on here.

Ez 2-0 for Faze
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
May 18 2018 21:17 GMT
#31
On May 19 2018 05:44 Rebs wrote:
And on the flipside, Karrigan is outskilling SK players.

And Rain pretty much solo wrecking SK every other round.

The teams are pretty evenly matched otherwise. But every play he has made has been electric.

And frankly even if you took Rain out of the equation, SK is just getting out dueled more often than the should be at critical points.

Fer and Cold shouldnt be losing advantageous duels to Xist and Karrigan as often as they are.

nothing super tactical going on here.

Ez 2-0 for Faze


SK CT is a completely differnet team from SK terroist.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-18 21:25:34
May 18 2018 21:20 GMT
#32
I dont even know if its that great.. its a very flawed CT side. There's been some lack of attention to detail and sloppiness. From both teams really.

SK have been offering up space on A easy and a drilled team should be able to overwhelm overpass after bathrooms control with no losses and minimal utility usage. They've been unaware or disregarded alot of T boost attempts even when there isn't really anything else or even presense to worry about on B.


Try that against Astralis and they will tear you an asshole over and over again (which they did)

Not a great game. And yeah, a sloppy round to end it aswell. I wouldnt even say it has anything to do with the side.

Unless you can point to something specific that they are doing better on CT side compared to T side.

I think its more a fail on Faze's part that the game went this long. SK didnt look good even on some of the rounds they won. Which I suppose is Kudo's to some of the individual plays. Not convincing though.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 18 2018 22:08 GMT
#33
fallen, cold and fer trio are just not they used to be. fer is still having his moments but the other two are just the shadow of former selves. you’d expect fallen to perform better after giving up being igl.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 19 2018 19:35 GMT
#34
terrible series from NaVi.

was looking forward them to lose in final again meh.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 19 2018 20:23 GMT
#35
what the fuck was that round from FaZe lmfao
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
May 19 2018 21:21 GMT
#36
astralis are running over FaZe, absolutely destroying them.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 19 2018 21:51 GMT
#37
holy shit astralis.

So... how many rounds will Liquid get this time?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
May 19 2018 22:20 GMT
#38
If the same astralis show up tomorrow, I'll be super happy each time Liquid gets a round. And that might not happen often.
LiquipediaWanderer
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 19:05:44
May 20 2018 00:22 GMT
#39
On May 20 2018 07:20 Ragnarork wrote:
If the same astralis show up tomorrow, I'll be super happy each time Liquid gets a round. And that might not happen often.


Yeah Astralis got cocky at Sydney, if anything that might actually have been the best thing that couldve happened to them because now they are basically as sharp as you can get. Getting Magisk has been a revelation for them. Thanks Kjab

Glaive has hit a rather high spell of form again which was their key to dominance end of 16 early 17. A cerebral ingame leader that is that good at his main role and that can frag hasnt been a thing since Fallen lost form.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 20 2018 19:02 GMT
#40
lol
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
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