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letsye made a form to share info - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/523467-destiny-2-pc-xbox-ps4?page=9#165

eieio also made a PC clan, PM him here or add him in-game: eieio#11967

Clan: https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2/Index?groupId=2871144
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
June 06 2018 01:24 GMT
#641
I hope with the new annual model we'll get more gameplay stuff. A lot of the expansions don't seem to be worth it to a lot of people because they spend so much time on single player campaign missions and cutscenes, if they just worked on adding more stuff to the gameplay loop, thatd be great i think.

We'll see more this thursday.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
June 06 2018 10:27 GMT
#642
There will be a bundle edition that includes everything year 1 + forsaken so if you want to jump in, wait till then.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-06 16:39:57
June 06 2018 11:19 GMT
#643
the 2 expansions are now on sale at the XBOX store for $20 USD and $27 CDN. i think i'll find a $20 PC deal in the next few weeks. This will mean the entire 1st year of content can be had for $32 USD. Day 1 buyers paid either $90 USD or $100 USD.

The faction rally activities this week are decent fun. i like how, "not dying", is rewarded. When you die while building up "renown" you lose 1 "unit" of "renown". that's cool. playing skills are rewarded. I thought they said as your renown "stacks" the difficulty of the enemies in the lost sector would increase. At 3 units of Renown i didn't feel that the enemies were more difficult. Overall, faction rallies are good stuff.

The D2 Character/Weapon/Armour Progression System
i progressed to level ~260 pretty easily. Almost, too easily. Then from 265 to 272 felt like hitting a wall. After ~273 the levelling and progression is moving at a reasonable pace. I think this "wall" that i "felt" doesn't exist. The "wall" was my lack of understanding of exactly how the loot, weapon bonus, and weapon construction system works.

I've been teaching some Destiny1 vets what i know. Many do not understand the basics of the progression system. That's bad. I"ve been playing for ~3 weeks and i'm having to teach D1 guys whats up??? Bungie did a poor job of detailing how you progress. Destiny is a BIG TIME console franchise. Console gamers are not veteran, experienced WoW players with a savvy understanding of loot//RPG progression systems. IMO, Bungie failed to teach its own player base.

i'm willing to type this detailed wall of text because the minute-to-minute combat of Destiny is an absolute blast.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
June 07 2018 09:43 GMT
#644
The current progression system is mostly a bandaid fix. It's probably going to be changed again in Forsaken.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 21:25:45
June 07 2018 21:25 GMT
#645
the Faction Rally thing is good. i love the renown mechanic and the emphasis on solo PvE play. i hope they build on these ideas and make it better. playing D2 is screwing up my sleep schedule. this is not good.
On June 07 2018 18:43 digmouse wrote:
The current progression system is mostly a bandaid fix. It's probably going to be changed again in Forsaken.

ah ok.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
June 08 2018 01:25 GMT
#646
Are you guys finding the game fun now? Is the community less angry?

I have a season pass and regardless I'm more concerned about wasting time on a grind if the game isn't worth it than paying for an expansion or w.e.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
June 08 2018 03:00 GMT
#647
i don't notice much in game anger. people are just running around playing.

me and several people in my old SC2 clan bought the base game for $12 and we're having fun. we find it pretty easy to group up with other people. we all live within 200 miles of each other so i imagine this helps with latency issues.

i'm not sure what server we're on but its probably a US North East server and we are not noticing much anger.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 18:28:38
June 08 2018 18:15 GMT
#648
On June 06 2018 20:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the 2 expansions are now on sale at the XBOX store for $20 USD and $27 CDN. i think i'll find a $20 PC deal in the next few weeks. This will mean the entire 1st year of content can be had for $32 USD. Day 1 buyers paid either $90 USD or $100 USD.


D2 Expansion Pass is ... surprise .. surprise.. $20 USD.
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/destiny-2-expansion-pass?hmb_source=search_bar
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 08 2018 18:57 GMT
#649
In other words, sales exist and prices on content in live games drop quickly once the new expansion is pending. People who bought this game knew exactly what type of game they were signing up for.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 19:34:04
June 08 2018 19:33 GMT
#650
On June 09 2018 03:57 Plansix wrote:
In other words, sales exist and prices on content in live games drop quickly once the new expansion is pending. People who bought this game knew exactly what type of game they were signing up for.

the speed and acceleration of price drops varies depending on the game. For example, Battleborn and GTA5 dropped in price at very different rates. Mosey on over to the gearbox forums... there are some unhappy Battleborn campers in there.

D2: PC was $26 on Black Friday less than a month after it was $60 on launch day. ouch.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 13 2018 00:00 GMT
#651
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
June 13 2018 00:26 GMT
#652
Very interesting. I was kind of on the boat where I thought they'd killed an Exo off because they're possibly could be some bullshit to bring him back in a new body.

Small gripe, but why the hell are they so tight lipped about the raid? When the raids dont spoil anything from what i can remember?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
June 13 2018 08:21 GMT
#653
Bungie will not talk about the raid in any significant fashion. It has been a tradition in Destiny that we literally know nothing about raids other than names, it is entirely up to the community to figure things out.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 13 2018 16:14 GMT
#654
That and more than likely the raid revolves around Cayde.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
June 13 2018 16:38 GMT
#655
I'm seeing quite a bit of rage about Forsaken+Annual Pass having a $70 price tag. Hey, I wish every game i played were 100% free. Being more realistic though, if you do not think its worth $70 just wait until the "Black Friday" sales occur in late November and it'll probably be substantially less than $70. You'll also have a very good idea of how good the game is because people will have been playing it for 6+ weeks. If the game ends up being total garbage, which is highly unlikely, but if it is bad... you don't have to buy it at all in late November.

I'm undecided as to whether I buy it in the 1st week or wait until the Black Friday sales.

The way games fall in price so quickly these days the revenue model is not far off of "pay whatever you can afford".
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
June 13 2018 22:46 GMT
#656
On June 13 2018 17:21 digmouse wrote:
Bungie will not talk about the raid in any significant fashion. It has been a tradition in Destiny that we literally know nothing about raids other than names, it is entirely up to the community to figure things out.


I know, that's what I'm critquing. I think thats silly. Mechanics sure, but why hide the story of the raid ?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
June 13 2018 23:17 GMT
#657
On June 14 2018 07:46 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2018 17:21 digmouse wrote:
Bungie will not talk about the raid in any significant fashion. It has been a tradition in Destiny that we literally know nothing about raids other than names, it is entirely up to the community to figure things out.


I know, that's what I'm critquing. I think thats silly. Mechanics sure, but why hide the story of the raid ?

sometimes the plot twists inside the game are exciting.
i remember when Mengsk double crossed Raynor and when Lilith turned out to be the "Fyrehawk".

maybe they are trying to preserve that discovery arc?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
June 14 2018 00:42 GMT
#658
On June 14 2018 08:17 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 07:46 lestye wrote:
On June 13 2018 17:21 digmouse wrote:
Bungie will not talk about the raid in any significant fashion. It has been a tradition in Destiny that we literally know nothing about raids other than names, it is entirely up to the community to figure things out.


I know, that's what I'm critquing. I think thats silly. Mechanics sure, but why hide the story of the raid ?

sometimes the plot twists inside the game are exciting.
i remember when Mengsk double crossed Raynor and when Lilith turned out to be the "Fyrehawk".

maybe they are trying to preserve that discovery arc?

I'm not asking for plot twists, I'm asking for a setting and brief overview of where something takes place.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-14 11:15:31
June 14 2018 11:15 GMT
#659
Raids, storywise, are not entirely blind. They are often continuation of the main game's narrative, or had not so subtle ques in the side ones. We had:

Vault of Glass: mentioned in the main campaign, continuation of the Vex plotline of vanilla Destiny, stopping the Vex from taking over timelines.
Crota's End: ending the The Dark Below story, and the Hive main story of vanilla Destiny.
King's Fall: hinted at the end of Taken King campaign, ending the Taken King story arc, followed by 4 exotic weapon quests.
Wrath of the Machine: continuation of the SIVA crisis story line.
Leviathan: this is the first and only time we are getting a raid completely separate from the main narrative, even then we still get a hint from one of the adventures on Nessus.
Forsaken raid: we don't know the name nor the enemy but we already know it is set on the Awoken home of Dreaming City, and will directly be related to Awoken backstory.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-14 12:37:23
June 14 2018 12:34 GMT
#660
The Forsaken raid will probably have to do with killing a X amount of certain named escapees from the Reef before getting to what's his face.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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