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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
July 16 2018 05:51 GMT
#2121
Breath of the wild has been spectacular

This is where the bar should be set for all $60 games

Only thing I dislike is when ur forced to use gyro controls to solve puzzles. The puzzles themselves are very trivial but the controls make it difficult and annoying.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4422 Posts
July 16 2018 11:57 GMT
#2122
Has anyone got FIFA on switch and can compare it to how it is on xbox or playstation? Is it basically the same? Controls more or less annoying?
Sucker for nostalgia
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 16 2018 16:08 GMT
#2123
On July 16 2018 14:51 Emnjay808 wrote:
Breath of the wild has been spectacular

This is where the bar should be set for all $60 games

Only thing I dislike is when ur forced to use gyro controls to solve puzzles. The puzzles themselves are very trivial but the controls make it difficult and annoying.


Yea the puzzle controls are unfathomably awful, which is odd since they nailed the motion controls for aiming.

I suggest you try and just brute force/cheese the puzzles as much as you can, it is actually much easier this way for the majority of them than the intended way. Unfortunately there are at least one or two that will still require some struggle and fines.

For example, one of the first motion-puzzles is the standard ball in a maze. For this one it is comically easier to flip the entire maze over to the flat side and just punch the ball into the path it needs to end in. I actually managed this in one motion first try after about 30 min of trying the intended way.

Thankfully I think there are only about a dozen or so of those kinda of puzzles, which is still far more than there should be, so they are more of a blip on an otherwise just amazing game.
I can take that responsibility.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
July 16 2018 17:08 GMT
#2124
On July 16 2018 20:57 DropBear wrote:
Has anyone got FIFA on switch and can compare it to how it is on xbox or playstation? Is it basically the same? Controls more or less annoying?


It has a few less features (e.g. no squad battles, etc).

Graphics are notably worse.

Gameplay itself feels basically like FIFA17, i.e. better in every way. FIFA18 is probably the worst iteration of FIFA I've ever played, game play wise (and I've played a lot of it). FIFA17 is faster, sharper controls, allows you to do more things, isn't nearly as sloppy with passes, shots, etc. Pretty much better in every way. The only problems I ever see are with the AI tactics.

Controls are the exact same when you're in game because it switches the functions of the A and B button once you get into a game to match the other systems' controllers.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
SpiriTx13
Profile Joined January 2010
Lithuania36 Posts
July 16 2018 20:46 GMT
#2125
Is it worth buying games you intend to play online on switch versus PC or PS4? Something like Fifa or NBA 2k.I mean is it still competitive?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 16 2018 21:00 GMT
#2126
On July 17 2018 01:08 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2018 14:51 Emnjay808 wrote:
Breath of the wild has been spectacular

This is where the bar should be set for all $60 games

Only thing I dislike is when ur forced to use gyro controls to solve puzzles. The puzzles themselves are very trivial but the controls make it difficult and annoying.


Yea the puzzle controls are unfathomably awful, which is odd since they nailed the motion controls for aiming.

I suggest you try and just brute force/cheese the puzzles as much as you can, it is actually much easier this way for the majority of them than the intended way. Unfortunately there are at least one or two that will still require some struggle and fines.

For example, one of the first motion-puzzles is the standard ball in a maze. For this one it is comically easier to flip the entire maze over to the flat side and just punch the ball into the path it needs to end in. I actually managed this in one motion first try after about 30 min of trying the intended way.

Thankfully I think there are only about a dozen or so of those kinda of puzzles, which is still far more than there should be, so they are more of a blip on an otherwise just amazing game.

I think the problem with them if you aren't ever really set behind the object you're manipulating because you need to see the whole puzzle, so the whole thing becomes a "how well can you mentally interperate this 3d area and apply it accurately in regards to the motion of your hand in the real world".
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 16 2018 21:49 GMT
#2127
On July 17 2018 06:00 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2018 01:08 Tictock wrote:
On July 16 2018 14:51 Emnjay808 wrote:
Breath of the wild has been spectacular

This is where the bar should be set for all $60 games

Only thing I dislike is when ur forced to use gyro controls to solve puzzles. The puzzles themselves are very trivial but the controls make it difficult and annoying.


Yea the puzzle controls are unfathomably awful, which is odd since they nailed the motion controls for aiming.

I suggest you try and just brute force/cheese the puzzles as much as you can, it is actually much easier this way for the majority of them than the intended way. Unfortunately there are at least one or two that will still require some struggle and fines.

For example, one of the first motion-puzzles is the standard ball in a maze. For this one it is comically easier to flip the entire maze over to the flat side and just punch the ball into the path it needs to end in. I actually managed this in one motion first try after about 30 min of trying the intended way.

Thankfully I think there are only about a dozen or so of those kinda of puzzles, which is still far more than there should be, so they are more of a blip on an otherwise just amazing game.

I think the problem with them if you aren't ever really set behind the object you're manipulating because you need to see the whole puzzle, so the whole thing becomes a "how well can you mentally interperate this 3d area and apply it accurately in regards to the motion of your hand in the real world".


From my experience, which has been 2 playthroughs of the game (yes I reset my first game with 100% shrines completed for no good reason) and a fair bit of testing, the actual motion tracking is pretty jacked up for those puzzles.

The longer you mess around with them the further off from a "zero-point" the controls get, making it nearly impossible to reset the puzzle without exiting the entire thing and coming back to it. Quite often while working on a puzzle I found myself having to twist the controller in stranger and stranger ways to get the same motion I got fairly easily at the start. To the point where I was having to do a complete 360 and only getting a fraction of the motion in game.

This was even more frustrating as I tend to play mostly in handheld mode and it is simply impossible to do these puzzles without detaching the controllers. From this though I learned that everything seems to be based on the gyro in the right joycon, or the bottom end on the right joycon from a practical standpoint.

So regardless of how well you can build a 3d image in your mind of the puzzle (which I seem to be fairly good at) the controls are still a struggle and will frustrate you endlessly. It's one of those "I can see the solution, but can't get things lined up just perfectly to actually execute said solution" problems.

My best advice, past what I gave in my earlier post, for anyone else having issues on these puzzles is to try to do these either with a pro-controller or remove the joycon's and just work with the right joycon to try and line things up. It won't fully resolve the weirdness of the controls, but it should minimize issues.




In other news, I am finding myself enjoying the full release of Octopath a fair bit more than the demo. The combat before you build a full party is pretty flat compared to actually having a full party to work with. I still find most of the stories a bit on the dull/cliché side but there are some decent moments.

Kinda think they should have done a different approach for the demo at this point. 3 hours of playtime gets eaten by the story quite a bit so you hardly have a chance to experience the gameplay, and what you do get seems to not be very representative of what the main part of the game is.
I can take that responsibility.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46235 Posts
July 16 2018 22:54 GMT
#2128
I've had the Nintendo Switch for about a month so far, and I'm shocked that my Joycons no longer work as of today. I bought plenty of backup (normal) controllers just in case I didn't like the Joycons, but I never would have expected the default controllers to just stop working after such a short amount of time. That's very un-Nintendo. At least the games are amazing and I can still play them.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-16 23:10:01
July 16 2018 23:08 GMT
#2129
On July 17 2018 07:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I've had the Nintendo Switch for about a month so far, and I'm shocked that my Joycons no longer work as of today. I bought plenty of backup (normal) controllers just in case I didn't like the Joycons, but I never would have expected the default controllers to just stop working after such a short amount of time. That's very un-Nintendo. At least the games are amazing and I can still play them.

Regardless, that sounds like something you can go "Uh, Nintendo, wtf?" about and they fix it for you.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
July 17 2018 00:53 GMT
#2130
I use the Switch handheld 95% of the time, and it's great. You can play it casually like you play smartphone/tablet games on the couch with Netflix on or in bed, but you can convert it into a party game console when you have guests over.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
July 17 2018 01:11 GMT
#2131
On July 17 2018 05:46 SpiriTx13 wrote:
Is it worth buying games you intend to play online on switch versus PC or PS4? Something like Fifa or NBA 2k.I mean is it still competitive?


About FIFA, the game itself is pretty good. Compared to the XBOX version it does have less features, but it still has career mode, Ultimate team, character creator, all the teams, all the cups etc.


However I would not buy fifa 18. Maybe fifa 19 when it's released. Why? Well because the online sucks.

For some fucking reason, EA decided that you should only be able to look for a match for 1-2 mins. If you didn't find another player similar to your skill level, too bad. It cancels the queue and you need to queue again. Which is fucking stupid. Because of this, and the factt that 18 is not as new anymore, it's pretty hard to find matches online because two players need to queuq in exactly the same 2 minute time frame window, else it cancels for both of them and are forced to do it again. That is very annoying, so most people don't bother.

Fifa ultimate does have more players, and I have been able to play many online matches, but in general...I'd recommend the Switch version because it is good and it is confortable, but I'd wait for 19. All that while aknowledging the Xbox/ps4 version is better.


18 does have the world cup update so it Will have more content than 19, but I guess that now that the world cup ended it kinda loses some of it's coolness,
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Keltor
Profile Joined February 2011
28 Posts
July 17 2018 12:54 GMT
#2132
Hey guys.
Im in japan and thinking about buying a switch here to use it in germany.
So i wonder if anyone has expierience regarding warrenty isues and using a travel adapter for the 110v japanese charging cable to our 230v system in germany.
Thanks for every reply
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4422 Posts
July 17 2018 13:23 GMT
#2133
On July 17 2018 02:08 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2018 20:57 DropBear wrote:
Has anyone got FIFA on switch and can compare it to how it is on xbox or playstation? Is it basically the same? Controls more or less annoying?


It has a few less features (e.g. no squad battles, etc).

Graphics are notably worse.

Gameplay itself feels basically like FIFA17, i.e. better in every way. FIFA18 is probably the worst iteration of FIFA I've ever played, game play wise (and I've played a lot of it). FIFA17 is faster, sharper controls, allows you to do more things, isn't nearly as sloppy with passes, shots, etc. Pretty much better in every way. The only problems I ever see are with the AI tactics.

Controls are the exact same when you're in game because it switches the functions of the A and B button once you get into a game to match the other systems' controllers.

Thanks for the reply! The only console I have bought in the last 10 years was the 3ds, considering a christmas switch buy and weighing up the options. I still feel like there aren't really that many good games yet
Sucker for nostalgia
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 17 2018 21:52 GMT
#2134
It depends on what genres you like. I play mostly RPGs and strategy games and have bought 2 games so far since buying the system in January. It's been good for over 200 hours of gameplay already. New games are getting released on a regular basis so even picky gamers like me have something to like.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-18 16:27:13
July 18 2018 16:26 GMT
#2135
So I just found out that the "Path actions, unique to each character" are actually just the same 4 repeated across the characters. Pretty disappointed as the team I was planning to use now feels subpar as I would have both of the "reveal extra NPC info" characters.

Am I making a bigger deal out of this than it really is? Or is it pretty worthwhile to have all 4 Path Actions available?

PS: This is regarding Octopath Traveler, if that wasn't clear
I can take that responsibility.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46235 Posts
July 18 2018 21:29 GMT
#2136
Just beat Super Mario Odyssey. Absolutely one of the best games I've ever played. Highly, highly recommend it.
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Definitely teared up after beating Bowser/ after we escaped.

I'm not done with the game though; I still have more Power Moons to earn and more outfits to unlock. To beat the game, you need 124 Power Moons; I have about triple that, but there are well over a thousand moons in the game (the counter stops at 999, you unlock everything, and it's largely irrelevant to go any higher). The completionist in me is itching to get to that 999 count.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 19 2018 02:30 GMT
#2137
I think that the main story is a pretty fun and brisk playthrough but that the real endgame of finding hundreds of power moons is not very fun. I definitely got burnt out real quick.
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Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
July 19 2018 06:45 GMT
#2138
Mario was solid I thought but way, waaaayyyyyyyy too easy to be more than that which is unfortunate.
Currently playing Ys VIII and having a fucking blast. If you enjoyed Xenoblade, a must have too. Reviews said the port was poor but on current patch, I'm seeing nothing problematic, just a cool game!
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-19 07:03:28
July 19 2018 07:01 GMT
#2139
I was excited to do the post game grind in Odyssey but it got old after a few hours. The main story was fun and the game had some really awesome mechanics.

I'm gonna go buy Octopath whenever I have time

edit: Also I'm playing this on PC atm, but Celeste is on Switch as well and it's one of the best games I've played in a long time. If you're into good platformers with great music plz pick it up.
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Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
July 19 2018 08:17 GMT
#2140
Can also recommend Celeste on Switch. First hardcore platformer I had ever played so it was pretty brutal (more than 3000 death just for the main story, only completed a single B side before quitting) but totally worth it.
Story was surprisingly interesting and the music was definitely an highlight.

Next after Ys will be Octopath Traveler too even though the reviews kinda killed my hype a bit, especially the disconnected stories... Will see...
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