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HungerForMore
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan420 Posts
February 04 2007 01:36 GMT
#41
if u play hardcore, you got absolutely no life at all. Sad but true.
Savior 4 Life
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 04 2007 01:44 GMT
#42
Yes. Because playing hc automatically means you will be playing 60 hours a week. I had a single player hc who I played maybe 3 hours a week tops.

If you want to troll, at least put some effort into it.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
February 04 2007 01:46 GMT
#43
go back to fucking copenhagen HungerForMore

there's nothing worse than fellow nerd-bashing... i mean, you fucking post on a forum for a 10+ year old video game
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
February 04 2007 02:24 GMT
#44
I was never hardcore enough for hardcore. I've heard quite the sad stories of pain and sorrow about it though.
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 04 2007 03:27 GMT
#45
I never wanted to play HC because of the Lag/Disc problems. I remember the good old days though where if you typed @@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@ into the screen it would disc all the laggy koreans and make them die.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Ganfei1
Profile Joined January 2007
China667 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-04 03:51:28
February 04 2007 03:48 GMT
#46
I've had several level 90+ characters and a lvl 99 javazon. I was running solo MF runs in the cow level in 8 player games (FREE HERE!! games hosted by me to bring in the 8 people so I could quickly run the cows). Anyways, I leaned over to change my music (I was listening to music on a separate stereo back then) and I came back and I had died. I was fairly pissed but it wasn't a huge deal to me.

In the duped world of expansion it's not remotely difficult to stay alive for the purposes of PvM anymore. My hammerdin had something like 4k life, 74% block, 15k armor. Enigma, hoto, upped HoZ, 8 GCs with +40 life, with like lvl 50 holy shield...PvM is a joke with these duped runes. I really hate how boring it is now in D2 due to the rune dupes.

The most fun nowadays is basically playing HCCL and dueling around lvl 70. Check channel "olo" on West for basically the only community around but they've almost all moved to East nowadays I think (it's been awhile since I last played).
She prayed for me because she believed I was blind to sin, wanting me to kneel and pray too, because people to whom sin is just a matter of words, to them salvation is just words too.
Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2861 Posts
February 04 2007 03:56 GMT
#47
Ok I have found my old single player character, here are 2 screens. No super duper rune items.
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Climbing walls of an endless circle
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5278 Posts
February 04 2007 04:09 GMT
#48
MyTHicaL i do understand what u r saying but it does not apply to me or , how you see hardcore has no sense to me ; d2 its not a survival game , you get nothing for dying or for being alive more ; every char death is 'painfull' for the owner be it at lvl 30 , 50 or 98 but is also pointless from the games perspective
it's all in your head and i just can't lie anymore to my self like you do
i do play(played) hardcore but everytime i died it just
-set me back 2-3 hours ,sometime more , of game play
-make me curse ,swear ..for 10-15 min
i play it for the items/gear
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
February 04 2007 04:13 GMT
#49
do me a favore....
call the cows
adress: act 1 private stash
tell them to go into the red portal
im soo sorry <3
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
February 04 2007 04:17 GMT
#50
if u die in diablo, it's over?
wow, it's not worth playing hardcore
at least in starcraft if you lose you can always go "re?"
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
February 04 2007 04:26 GMT
#51
On February 04 2007 13:17 Pressure wrote:
if u die in diablo, it's over?
wow, it's not worth playing hardcore
at least in starcraft if you lose you can always go "re?"


Yeah, but normal mode is sooo boring, playing HC is the only way to throw a little excitement back into it. Even then, the game was still boring, but horribly addictive.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Ganfei1
Profile Joined January 2007
China667 Posts
February 04 2007 06:19 GMT
#52
On February 04 2007 12:56 Red_Dragon wrote:
Ok I have found my old single player character, here are 2 screens. No super duper rune items.
[image loading]

[image loading]


I guess it's good for single player
She prayed for me because she believed I was blind to sin, wanting me to kneel and pray too, because people to whom sin is just a matter of words, to them salvation is just words too.
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-05 18:34:33
February 05 2007 18:34 GMT
#53
Hey Guys , I didnt want to start a new thread so I am using this one. So my neighbour gave me his copy of Diablo2 with the expansion. I have never in my life played that game so I have few questions. Which is the most fun hero to play with? Is there a guide somewhere with which skills I have to develope?Can the game be played on singleplayer?
Any tips and advices will be highly apperciated
Thanks in advance!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
February 05 2007 20:15 GMT
#54
Both the assassin and druid of D2ex are fun to play depending on what you want. The expansion really makes the game imo, especially on bnet. There is a single player game, but you get the same (and better) experience by playing it online with a party.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14892 Posts
February 05 2007 20:58 GMT
#55
On February 06 2007 03:34 mdb wrote:
Hey Guys , I didnt want to start a new thread so I am using this one. So my neighbour gave me his copy of Diablo2 with the expansion. I have never in my life played that game so I have few questions. Which is the most fun hero to play with? Is there a guide somewhere with which skills I have to develope?Can the game be played on singleplayer?
Any tips and advices will be highly apperciated
Thanks in advance!


www.diabloii.net
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6169 Posts
February 05 2007 21:00 GMT
#56
I played D2 not expansion.. Hardcore ladder I had many 80+ characters. Most of them died to lag and some expired. Duels killed a couple too I always started hardcore ladder when season started. I see nothing funny playing not hardcore and nonladder.

36 level in LoD is something you can do in few hours :D
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
February 05 2007 21:14 GMT
#57
I have a ton of stories.. But it's so funny when you play LAN and someone dies.. You go like "oh..man that sucks" but you laugh about it anyway.. And we always tried to like lure eachother into great dangers like when running away from a mob we tried to block ways etc.


I once stood in a doorway and a few lightning champions chased my weak sorc friend.. I wouldnt let him pass and he died haha.

But that stuff was even better in Dungeon Siege.. All those elevators and stuff.. Like always try to get the team8s down alone with one or back up so they would fall behind =)

Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-05 22:11:06
February 05 2007 22:06 GMT
#58
On February 06 2007 03:34 mdb wrote:
Hey Guys , I didnt want to start a new thread so I am using this one. So my neighbour gave me his copy of Diablo2 with the expansion. I have never in my life played that game so I have few questions. Which is the most fun hero to play with? Is there a guide somewhere with which skills I have to develope?Can the game be played on singleplayer?
Any tips and advices will be highly apperciated
Thanks in advance!


I personally think the game is better as a singleplayer experience, and yeah it can be played that way. There are many guides to different D2 builds, diabloii.net is a great resource for that stuff. If you're going to play singleplayer I strongly suggest downloading ATMA-- a muling program-- you can find a link to it on diabloii.net. It's technically a character editor, but the vast majority of D2 players don't consider it a cheat because all it does is speed up the muling process. As for best hero? I dunno.

One of the stronger non-twinked characters is the sorceress, which makes them good as a first character to magic find so you can twink future characters. I prefer Blizzard sorc, Meteorb, and CL/FO sorc builds, but you can be successful with a lot of stuff (maxed static field can be a fun experiment). Other strong non-twinked characters: Hammerdin; Lightning Trapsin; Fury Javazon; and Fishymancer.

Fishymancer (also known as Skelliemancer) is practically unkillable, and is easily the safest build in the game... but it's a little slow. A properly equipped and skillfully used Hammerdin is the most powerful character in the game, but prone to stupid deaths and Blessed Hammer is kinda funky to use in tight spaces. Fury Javazons destroy rooms of monsters like nobody's business, but struggles a little vs bosses. Lightning Trapsin can have mana problems and the occasional lightning immune will slow you down. Every sorc build that isn't tri-elemental (most of them) will have some problems with immunes in hell difficulty.

If you don't care about magic find for twinking purposes, just play whatever attracts you. My first character ever was a poorly constructed Fanazealot that liked to die during zeal-locks, and it was fun enough without any decent equipment or carefully planned stat/skill placement.

You can find guides to all the builds I mentioned on diabloii.net. Have fun!
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
February 06 2007 00:48 GMT
#59
Hey Tadzio00 thanks a lot for your help ,but all these termins you use I am not familiar with ;(. I started the game 1 hour ago. I started playing with Barbarian and have few questions.
What skill trees,warcries ,combat masteries and skills I should develope. The same goes to for the other stuff : strength,dexterity etc... should I put points to? Also why when I save and quit I start again at the starting base?
I know these questions sound like "How to build barracs" for SC, but I know that in games such like Diablo its very important to develope your hero properly .
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-06 02:09:50
February 06 2007 02:01 GMT
#60
Go to diabloii.net and use the search function (you'll have to register) or read random threads until you can glean general D2 terms. To get you started:

Blizzard sorc is a sorceress that specializes in the blizzard spell and its synergies.

Meteorb is a sorceress that uses the spells Fireball, Meteor and Frozen Orb.

CL/FO sorc is a sorceress that uses the spells Lightning, Chainlightning and Frozen Orb.

Hammerdin is a Paladin that specializes in using Blessed Hammer and its synergies along with the Concentration aura to kill foes. Blessed Hammer is classified as "magic" damage (as opposed to elemental or physical or poison damage) and as a result, only monsters that are immune to magic damage can resist it. Blessed Hammer also ignores the immunities of any undead or demon class monster. As a result, there's only 1-2 very very rare types of monsters that can resist Blessed Hammer. IMBA ;p

Lightning Trapsin is an assassin that specializes in Lightning Sentry, and Death Sentry to kill foes.

Fury Javazon is an Amazon that specializes in the Javalin skill tree and uses the Lightning Fury skill as it's main attack.

Fishymancer is a Necromancer that uses an army of skeleton minions (Raise Skeleton + Skeleton mastery) along with the 1 point wonder curse Amplify Damage and a Might aura merc to kill foes, it uses the skill Corpse Explosion to to speed up killing. Decrepify and Clay golem (both 1 point wonders) are used to battle bosses.

Fanazealot is a Paladin that uses Zeal as it's main attack and combines that with the Fanatacism aura. It's a melee character that attacks very fast. Zeal-lock has been patched, but in the old days if you had many points in Zeal you could attack 20ish times in a row, and you'd continue to attack even if there were no monsters in range, leaving you exposed to ranged attackers that could kill you while you were locked in place.

Some monsters, especially in Hell difficulty, are immune to certain attack types. There are physical immunes, and immunities to each of the element types. In Hell difficulty, it isn't uncommon to run accross foes with more than one immunity.

Twinking is a term used to describe the act of transfering items earned by one character to a new character that can use the items to its advantage.

A 1 point wonder is a skill that is very front loaded as far as it's usefulness goes. Generally, spending more points in these skills only affect the radius of the area of effect or the duration/life/or mana cost of the spell. Some examples of 1 point wonders are: static field, most of the necromancer golems, Corpse Explosion, Shadow Warrior, Shadow Master, Teleport, Double Swing, Fade, Mind Blast, and most of the necromancer curses.

The reason you start in the starting base after you save and quit is because that's how the game works. Don't fret over it, killing monsters again is a good thing (more chances to get good items).

Barbarians are a pretty item-dependant class, which is why I didn't mention any barb builds when I was talking about non-twinked characters. I think Frenzy Barbs are pretty fun so I'll share that build with you. Follow this link.

General stat placement rules for D2:
Strength: enough to wear your gear.
Dexterity: enough to wear your gear unless you use a shield, then enough to get 75% blocking (how much you'll need for this depends on your level and your shield).
Vitality: Everything else.
Energy: Base. Don't ever spend anything here.
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