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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-15 23:53:16
April 15 2016 23:51 GMT
#161
You can really start with any of them, as far as the story goes. They reference and pay homage to each other, but it's not critical to the understanding of what's happening imo.

If you want something that's sleek and a decent starting point and don't mind shelling out full price, just grab the new one. If you want to pick up something cheaper / on sale and introduce yourself to the series before catching up and buying the third one, definitely play Dark Souls first.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
April 15 2016 23:54 GMT
#162
There should be no issues if you want to start with the new one and then go back and play the old ones. They hold up well enough that you would still really enjoy them even after playing DS3.

I started with Bloodborne and then went back to play DS1 after, etc.

The other options mentioned are fine too though
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 16 2016 00:42 GMT
#163
I guess i will just start with the first one. Cheap and as i sad most people usually say it's the best one.
Thanks for the answers though!
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
April 16 2016 00:45 GMT
#164
I have to say that you'll miss out on playing a souls game when it's not already 100% discovered and you can't just google everything you want to know.


Also actually being invaded and playing co-op is fun. I haven't done that in any souls game because I've played well after release. So if you're excited for that, I highly recommend starting with the current one. You can always go back to the other ones.
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-16 01:03:51
April 16 2016 01:03 GMT
#165
Speaking of which, sadly I wasnt invaded by any human so far. 15 hours and lvl 33 or so.

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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7046 Posts
April 16 2016 01:05 GMT
#166
Yeah it's like dark souls 1, you need to be kindled to be invaded even by NPCs (I've already had 2 NPC invasions)
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ObeseHydra
Profile Joined March 2013
Brazil196 Posts
April 16 2016 01:14 GMT
#167
The game is great, but I think is a little too easy, at least for Souls veterans. But I didn't finished it yet, so my opinion may change.
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
April 16 2016 01:17 GMT
#168
On April 16 2016 10:14 ObeseHydra wrote:
The game is great, but I think is a little too easy, at least for Souls veterans. But I didn't finished it yet, so my opinion may change.

I feel like it has twice as many bonfires as Dark Souls 1.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-16 01:22:56
April 16 2016 01:21 GMT
#169
On April 16 2016 10:14 ObeseHydra wrote:
The game is great, but I think is a little too easy, at least for Souls veterans. But I didn't finished it yet, so my opinion may change.

The only game that isn't easy for Souls veterans is Bloodborne. Even DkS2 was like that. But I can appreciate them having a well-paced difficulty curve for newer players (without it being ""easy"") instead of making it ridiculous just for the folks that have played the other games. I'm enjoying it a lot regardless, even with many hours in the previous titles.
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
April 16 2016 01:30 GMT
#170
On April 16 2016 10:14 ObeseHydra wrote:
The game is great, but I think is a little too easy, at least for Souls veterans. But I didn't finished it yet, so my opinion may change.


When I hear this comment I think it's just as much you got better. I can understand why they don't want to make a game where you have to play the first two just to be skilled enough to play the 3rd. It is nice that you can make the game harder if you want by not leveling or using weapons that are not as powerful/upgraded.
It is what it is
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 16 2016 01:34 GMT
#171
On April 16 2016 09:45 KeksX wrote:
I have to say that you'll miss out on playing a souls game when it's not already 100% discovered and you can't just google everything you want to know.


Also actually being invaded and playing co-op is fun. I haven't done that in any souls game because I've played well after release. So if you're excited for that, I highly recommend starting with the current one. You can always go back to the other ones.

Hm that's actually a good point (invading, coop; i wouldn't google probably). Still i think the first one is a good start to check it out without potentially wasting 60 bucks :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
April 16 2016 02:24 GMT
#172
On April 16 2016 10:21 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 10:14 ObeseHydra wrote:
The game is great, but I think is a little too easy, at least for Souls veterans. But I didn't finished it yet, so my opinion may change.

The only game that isn't easy for Souls veterans is Bloodborne. Even DkS2 was like that. But I can appreciate them having a well-paced difficulty curve for newer players (without it being ""easy"") instead of making it ridiculous just for the folks that have played the other games. I'm enjoying it a lot regardless, even with many hours in the previous titles.

Really? I found Bloodborne to be the easiest of them all mostly because of the life leech mechanic or whatever they call it.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
April 16 2016 02:37 GMT
#173
On April 16 2016 11:24 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 10:21 Duka08 wrote:
On April 16 2016 10:14 ObeseHydra wrote:
The game is great, but I think is a little too easy, at least for Souls veterans. But I didn't finished it yet, so my opinion may change.

The only game that isn't easy for Souls veterans is Bloodborne. Even DkS2 was like that. But I can appreciate them having a well-paced difficulty curve for newer players (without it being ""easy"") instead of making it ridiculous just for the folks that have played the other games. I'm enjoying it a lot regardless, even with many hours in the previous titles.

Really? I found Bloodborne to be the easiest of them all mostly because of the life leech mechanic or whatever they call it.

I think it's just different enough (faster paced, mostly) compared to the Souls games that it surprised folks that considered themselves vets. That's how it was for me at least, at first. Even if you were used to playing shieldless in DkS1 and 2, BB was still intense. BB's difficulty tapers faster into the late game though, in my opinion, because leveling anything gives you quite a boost to defensive stats and gear matters very little.

The moral of the story is, all these games are still enjoyable even if you find them "easy", but that has more to do with your experience as a player IMO, not because of the difficulty itself
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
April 16 2016 07:50 GMT
#174
On April 16 2016 11:24 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 10:21 Duka08 wrote:
On April 16 2016 10:14 ObeseHydra wrote:
The game is great, but I think is a little too easy, at least for Souls veterans. But I didn't finished it yet, so my opinion may change.

The only game that isn't easy for Souls veterans is Bloodborne. Even DkS2 was like that. But I can appreciate them having a well-paced difficulty curve for newer players (without it being ""easy"") instead of making it ridiculous just for the folks that have played the other games. I'm enjoying it a lot regardless, even with many hours in the previous titles.

Really? I found Bloodborne to be the easiest of them all mostly because of the life leech mechanic or whatever they call it.

Bloodborne has the hardest starting area of all the souls games, but it does get progressively easier (save for a few encounters with Hunter-type NPCs that have infinite stamina and silver bullets), not in the least bit because healing items are extremely plentiful and upgrade items are spoonfed to the player instead of nicely tucked away.

Bloodborne is still an incredible game though.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
April 16 2016 08:02 GMT
#175
The thing about difficulty in Dark Souls games is that if your fundamentals are solid it just comes down to understanding enemies. There's a massive difference between a first playthrough where you have no idea where enemies are and how they attack and what weapons you want to use and the second playthrough where you're just going through the motions. The reason why people have been able to finish Dark Souls games with their feet, or a voice input system or a guitar hero controller or whatever isn't that the game itself is hard, it's that once you have a solid understanding of all the enemy's attack patterns and visual cues and behaviours it's actually rather simple.

That said, Str builds in DS3 is fucking easy mode. Greatshield + Greataxe = ezpz.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-16 11:42:47
April 16 2016 09:05 GMT
#176
IF you guys have experience with STR builds, can you comment on the nerf to + Show Spoiler +
Fume Ultra Greatsword
? Is it still worth using, or are there better options now? I'm using a +6 zwei and I'm satisfied with the results but I can't help but wonder if there is a better weapon out there... I'm level 60 and currently in quickly approaching my 2nd Lord of Cinder.

edit: also, crashes crashes crashes. I have no idea what causes them. Might be lighting, might be screen resolution? Either way I played with lighting settings from low to max and in between, but I'm still crashing semi-regularly. FML
Not only around bonfires or when I don't have a full helm equipped.

My rig: GeForce 770, i7-2600 CPU, 8GB DDR3 RAM, Windows 7, current res: 1920x1080 (BenQ RL2450H)
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-16 21:41:50
April 16 2016 21:26 GMT
#177
On April 16 2016 17:02 BEARDiaguz wrote:
The thing about difficulty in Dark Souls games is that if your fundamentals are solid it just comes down to understanding enemies. There's a massive difference between a first playthrough where you have no idea where enemies are and how they attack and what weapons you want to use and the second playthrough where you're just going through the motions. The reason why people have been able to finish Dark Souls games with their feet, or a voice input system or a guitar hero controller or whatever isn't that the game itself is hard, it's that once you have a solid understanding of all the enemy's attack patterns and visual cues and behaviours it's actually rather simple.

That said, Str builds in DS3 is fucking easy mode. Greatshield + Greataxe = ezpz.

Yea the Str build does make the game really easy. This is my first Soul game and I have had no problem at any boss (2 shots at most) and I am more than halfway through the game (guessing a bit and from what I've watched). Guess I'll go for a weaker build for the next playthrough. I like to explore everything though and I guess it did make my char a lot stronger too. Fuck shields though, rolling ftw!

Really really enjoying this game. It's been a long time since I enjoy playing a single player game that much.

On April 16 2016 18:05 Latham wrote:
IF you guys have experience with STR builds, can you comment on the nerf to + Show Spoiler +
Fume Ultra Greatsword
? Is it still worth using, or are there better options now? I'm using a +6 zwei and I'm satisfied with the results but I can't help but wonder if there is a better weapon out there... I'm level 60 and currently in quickly approaching my 2nd Lord of Cinder.

edit: also, crashes crashes crashes. I have no idea what causes them. Might be lighting, might be screen resolution? Either way I played with lighting settings from low to max and in between, but I'm still crashing semi-regularly. FML
Not only around bonfires or when I don't have a full helm equipped.

My rig: GeForce 770, i7-2600 CPU, 8GB DDR3 RAM, Windows 7, current res: 1920x1080 (BenQ RL2450H)

+ Show Spoiler +
No idea about the stats pre-nerf but I just got enough str to equip it and it doesn't seem that OP but at the same time it's not terrible either. I only have it to +3 for now because not enough twinkling titanite, but it does a bit more damage than my Heavy Greataxe +7 (you might wanna look into this one if you want a good weapon, it's great). The Greataxe consumes less stamina, is a bit quicker and a lot lighter. The scaling is only B though with a heavy gem.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-17 10:28:58
April 17 2016 07:00 GMT
#178
ok finally picked the game up. Gonna play it for the rest of the night, hopefully I remember to sleep at some point.

I'm probably doing some sort of dex focused build with a focus in leveling up a Katana. Should I just be focusing on dex/str for now with a few in end/vigor or whatever I may need on the side.

edit: man character creation is kind of bad. Bloodborne's wasn't the greatest but I feel like they took another step back and made it worse.
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Oroch
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-17 10:37:30
April 17 2016 10:37 GMT
#179
On April 16 2016 18:05 Latham wrote:

edit: also, crashes crashes crashes. I have no idea what causes them. Might be lighting, might be screen resolution? Either way I played with lighting settings from low to max and in between, but I'm still crashing semi-regularly. FML
Not only around bonfires or when I don't have a full helm equipped.

My rig: GeForce 770, i7-2600 CPU, 8GB DDR3 RAM, Windows 7, current res: 1920x1080 (BenQ RL2450H)

Hey,

Had some problems with crashes, mostly when doing a roll near bonfires ._.
Some people pointed that getting lightning to min is a semi-confirmed fix for that crash (solved mines).
(Then some other had to fiddle with shadows/shaders)

Hope this helps
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
April 17 2016 10:58 GMT
#180
On April 17 2016 16:00 TheEmulator wrote:

I'm probably doing some sort of dex focused build with a focus in leveling up a Katana. Should I just be focusing on dex/str for now with a few in end/vigor or whatever I may need on the side.

I think at the beginning it is best to invest in Vigor and Endurance. Strength and Dexterity dont increase the damage significantly at the beginning due to bad scaling of weapons. You need enough to use your weapon of choice though.

But you can do whatever you like most or seems necessary.
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