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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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Yurie
11970 Posts
On November 03 2015 04:22 Faruko wrote: To be fair, i dont care about graphics either BUT if the power is there... why not use it ? thats what i dont like. Unless the game its made with those kind of graphics in mind, i hate that games feel so unpolished, graphics arent everything, but like i said, technology advances for a reason and theres a reason we spend $400+ dollars on a GPU to get the most out of it Good graphics costs money. I prefer that they put it somewhere else. (Not in voice acting in static conversations since I will read them faster than they talk and thus skip 50%+ of it.) I also like nice graphics but as long as it isn't horrible it works for me. Also as stated I won't pre-order from Bestheda since I havn't liked any of their games enough to pay full price for them. NV is the best they have been associated with and that wasn't made by them. Edit. Dishonored seems to be well regarded, havn't played that, so might be one more that they published. | ||
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Hoon
Brazil891 Posts
On November 03 2015 04:50 deth2munkies wrote: I'm not going to buy this until Bethseda fixes all the gamebreaking bugs their games launch with, and there's enough data to indicate that the gameplay will be much improved from the trash that was 3 and NV. I don't care if they have the best stories and environments if the game isn't fun to play. I wonder if they will release it with that many bugs that Fallout 3 and NV had. It's been in development for so many year, I really expect them not to do so. | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On November 03 2015 05:15 Hoon wrote: I wonder if they will release it with that many bugs that Fallout 3 and NV had. It's been in development for so many year, I really expect them not to do so. Bugs are a feature of Bethesda games. A Bethesda game without bugs is just not a Bethesda game. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On November 03 2015 05:38 maartendq wrote: Bugs are a feature of Bethesda games. A Bethesda game without bugs is just not a Bethesda game. Giants launching folks into the stratosphere, horses that defy terrain and gravity, and couriers randomly showing up naked are all timeless bugs that will forever be core to the Skyrim experience. I wonder what amusing but not game-breaking bugs will inevitably pop up in Fallout 4. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
On November 03 2015 04:53 Yurie wrote: Good graphics costs money. I prefer that they put it somewhere else. (Not in voice acting in static conversations since I will read them faster than they talk and thus skip 50%+ of it.) I also like nice graphics but as long as it isn't horrible it works for me. Also as stated I won't pre-order from Bestheda since I havn't liked any of their games enough to pay full price for them. NV is the best they have been associated with and that wasn't made by them. Edit. Dishonored seems to be well regarded, havn't played that, so might be one more that they published. You do realize we are talking about Bethesda here right ? I accept that if this was some kind of indie developer or a developer without much budget But thats not an excuse for bethesda to have shitty graphics | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
Also, the graphics whining is a bit extreme, maybe wwait for some actual gameplay before you start rioting. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 03 2015 07:02 LaNague wrote: arent the leaked versions console versions? Or is someone with a PC NDA version leaking, should have put hidden watermarks with ID into the image if thats the case xD. Also, the graphics whining is a bit extreme, maybe wwait for some actual gameplay before you start rioting. Nah, it's console. But you shouldn't really be surprised. People called Witcher 3 graphics "absolute garbage" after they saw that it was downgraded from outright unrealistic to only "brilliant". Graphicwhores be graphicwhores, that's the downside of the call of duty faction. As long as the graphics are "coherent" and work, i'm absolutely fine with them. As i was with Fallout 3, and Fallout NV - both of which looked quite considerably behind enginewise at the time of release. edit: i actually don't even see what people mean by "shitty graphics". Neither in Fallout, nor in Witcher 3 - in fact, Witcher 3 is still the game that other games get compared to, in terms of graphics. Kinda shows how much you should give on the "olol grapix suks!" comments. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
And Witcher 3 graphics were always good, it was just the downgrade that got people pissed. Ill play the game anyway, probably will wait for the innevitable GOTY version (or a heavy disscounted steam sale) with all the patches necessary to make the game run bug free (and of course the community patches to clean wathever bethesda left there) | ||
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Andarus.Terran
3 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/q0kIOKI.gif) Lets hope Obsidian is already making a new Fallout Game, I bet they don't fuck it up! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/olUvIVr.jpg) User was warned for this post | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 03 2015 08:44 Faruko wrote: I mean, im not a graphic whore, i said it, i still play NES/SNES games without problems, but i just hate that they leave so much power untapped, i mean, Crysis 1 was released in 2007 and it still kick ass in 2015... And Witcher 3 graphics were always good, it was just the downgrade that got people pissed. Ill play the game anyway, probably will wait for the innevitable GOTY version (or a heavy disscounted steam sale) with all the patches necessary to make the game run bug free (and of course the community patches to clean wathever bethesda left there) Nah, Neogaf/Reddit literally exploded about how shitty Witcher 3 looks (and who would've thought, that's where the Fallout 4 BS comes from, too). As in, they literally complained about the graphics. Not just the downgrade (of course, that as well). I do expect bugs, that's just the way it is nowadays, as was proven to me yet again two hours ago, when i started Anno 2205. Which shipped without any voice-acting, those "language/voice packets" are not available for download yet. edit: @above screenshot, you do realize that NV was improved on community feedback towards FO3, right? As in, duh? It's literally based on the feedback they received about what's missing in FO3. Guess there's a reason why nobody is even mentioning Alpha Protocol, their attempt towards an original game.. Or maybe Dungeon Siege III? | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
And Alpha Protocol wasnt all that bad... | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 03 2015 11:05 m4ini wrote: Guess there's a reason why nobody is even mentioning Alpha Protocol, their attempt towards an original game.. Or maybe Dungeon Siege III? Ostensibly, AP was their original game, but in actuality they were rushed and hounded by Sega throughout it's development as much as they were on any of their non-original projects. The end result couldn't be called anything but an abject failure, but there are lots of reasons for that (some under their control, and some outside), and they did try many innovative things where they were able to. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 03 2015 12:11 Faruko wrote: What about Pillars of Eternity or Divinity Original Sin ? You are focusing on their bad games but forgeting their superb ones And Alpha Protocol wasnt all that bad... So we have a picture, comparing a successor to its predecessor (one based on feedback of the other even), to somehow prove that Bethesda can't make Fallout-games. I'm not focusing on their bad games, i'm trying to point out that Obsidian also only cooks with water. If i wanted to go into detail about bad games, the first one i would state would be Armored Warfare. Same with the bugs in bethesda games - yes, they have them. As does every other game. Anno 2205 just today, or if you want to be a specific example of Obsidian: Pillars of Eternity was amazing, was it not? Well i can't really tell, since halfway through the game i encountered a bug which literally made it impossible to advance in the game. My wolve disappeared to limbo, meaning i could not travel to the map anymore. And that is where i stopped playing, because for weeks there was no patch that fixed that (and i wasn't the only one with that bug, so it definately was known). @both Alpha Protocol was shit, no need to tiptoe around that. Partially you can put it down to being rushed by Sega (.. if it makes you sleep better) - mainly it was obsidians problem though. Being innovative, as you've put it, is extremely counteractive if you do it half arsed. And that's what happened in AP. Apart from AI, Bugs and stuff like that. Which obsidian games suffer constantly from btw. Now: i'm not saying Obsidian sucks. I'm saying that picture some posts earlier is retarded, because it massively overhypes Obsidian, to the point that it's stupid. Especially in that specific comparison. edit: if you have, i'd like a source on that "being rushed" thing. Would be interesting to read up upon. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
While I thought Witcher 3 looked stunning, my game did have some weird LOD issues with distant buildings which made them look not quite as good as what we saw in earlier preview vids. Fallout 4's graphics may look to be just a small notch worse, but it's really no big deal for me. In the end, I think the new systems like settlements and extremely moddable weapons will make it a pretty good sandbox on top of what Bethesda usually offers for their games. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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calh
537 Posts
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Yurie
11970 Posts
On November 03 2015 11:05 m4ini wrote: Guess there's a reason why nobody is even mentioning Alpha Protocol, their attempt towards an original game.. Or maybe Dungeon Siege III? I liked both those games (played AP long after release though). DS3 was a bit bland but I did still play it through 1.5 times, which is much more than I can say about most games which I don't bother to finish. | ||
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rotta
5598 Posts
On November 03 2015 08:44 Faruko wrote: I mean, im not a graphic whore, i said it, i still play NES/SNES games without problems I think this era (from ~1987 onwards) has stood the test of time way better than the previous, truly archaic one (Atari 2600, Commodore 64, ColecoVision and early NES etc.) or the following 3D boom (N64, PS1...). Some SNES titles in particular still look absolutely gorgeous, and I for one really appreciate the creative solutions caused by the technical limitations. Judging by the massive wave of new games emulating this style, we are definitely not alone. PS1 games in comparison almost make my eyes bleed nowadays, despite the heavy nostalgia. I'd say 3D games started to reach the NES/SNES levels of sovereignty around PS3, and I'm really curious to find out how those games feel like after decades have passed. (The music and gameplay of (S)NES is also superior to everything else, mind you.  ) | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On November 03 2015 07:02 LaNague wrote: arent the leaked versions console versions? Or is someone with a PC NDA version leaking, should have put hidden watermarks with ID into the image if thats the case xD. Also, the graphics whining is a bit extreme, maybe wwait for some actual gameplay before you start rioting. People whining about graphics with fallout games is always funny. | ||
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