Fighting Games 2015 - Page 7

Low
Cr.M xx S1
Cr.M xx S1 Dash LLL xx S1 / L xx S2
Cr.M xx S1 Dash L xx S1 -- 191
*LLL xx S1 does same amount, LL does less
Cr.M xx S1 Dash L xx S2 -- 199
*LLL x S2 does 195
**For these, ending in s2 instead of s1 gives a knockdown
I'm not sure if cr L is a low or not, it might be.

Overhead
f.M -> H xx S3b xx S1 (hold)

Mid
Cl.M -> H xx S3b xx S1 (hold) -- 192
Cr.H, L xx S2 -- 196 but hella unsafe if you miss the link.

S2 (reversal) dash (have enough time to cross under for side switch), M -> H xx S3b xx S1 (hold) - 228
S2 (1 hit) upforward, crossup for surprise mixup (55 + 241 if it hits)

Cl.M -> H xx S3b xx S1 (hold) uf
*gives jumpin setup outside the corner, crossup in corner
**Corner corssup doesn’t seem to work on Talos!

S1 xx Super, S1 (held) is a go to for many matchups

Punish
L xx S1 is good for a fast punish vs a lot of chars, faster than st M.

Crossup, cr.H xx Super, S1 - 375ish? (raw super does 300)
--good for obvious punishes like whiffed talos grabs or dizzied opponents



Throw -> Dash (let them fall a bit) cl.M -> H xx S3b xx S1 (hold) -- 168

Back throw -- Cant be combod, but does 125.
Forward Throw -- can be canceled into combo but only does 50 on its own

Not really combos but didn’t have another space for it:
Cr H is a respectable anti air, but its use varies by matchup. Some chars trade with it really well, and the timing can be a little tricky (easy to accidentally press early and get hit clean).
Super is a surprisingly good anti air if they're jumping towards you. Use around the apex of their and they'll usually land on it for the full combo.

Not too sure how to best deal with this guy, havent played vs him a ton.

Super can punish his fireball thing but the timing is real hard, way harder than chel for example. Much better to use S1 to get the hit and then cancel into super when you see it connect.

He seems to have both high and low options for his resets?

He doesn't have a reversal to my knowledge (maybe super?) so can go wild with meaties.

Take your time in this match and pick when to approach. May eat some small damage but don’t want to jumping straight into his fireball traps or the invisibility sphere.


Invis sphere doesn’t last long and unless you’ve been knocked down it seems like you can hit him for using it or at least put him in blockstun to avoid some mixups.

Low button xx fireball isnt true blockstring, can S2 through it.

Her DP is super good, cant really beat it by crossing up, and it leads to damage
Basically don’t jump at her except to get over fireballs from afar or air to air unless you really are feeling it and calling out a fireball timing, the damage risk is real high.
Odds of jumping a fireball are low though, cause she shouldn’t be spamming them at a range too much vs daunt
S1 (held) armor will go through a fireball if you start it up ahead of time and whack her, gotta be careful though as that health doesn’t recover too quick.

Best use of super is probably going S1 through fireball xx super. Raw supers can punish fireballs or jumpins but those will be rarer against good players and she can bait it by doing fireball xx air fireball to make daunt's super whiff

When she's doing odd floaty kick move, if you use cr M, you can go under and itll whiff over you and give you a free punish. Might have to get lucky on timing, not sure if its something you can really do on reaction


If she does super raw (she shouldn’t but some do), can jump over it a la sf4 ryu U1 in most cases (maybe not when directly next to her though, havent tested)

Kinda tough, must be wayyy more careful than the talos player.

Biggest fear is the armor kick. It'll fuck you up both as an anti air and as an anti poke. As an anti air youre usually boned, but it should be your goal to bait out some armor kicks and punish with far M -> H
Can also go for jumpin -> rejump crossups to try to bait armor kicks for full punishes.

Charged S1 is a great tool in this match but don't get too predictable or you'll start eating armor kicks and grabs

Be real careful dealing with the mixup after he does his kick -> magnetism combos. Lots of opportunities for him to jump and bait your S2. Look to jump yourself as a good option to avoid his scary stuff (like grab, armor kicks) and potentially get damage yourself.

S1 xx super is good here, but can also use it to punish him doing that weird blue charge for his grabs if he's near you (though may not get full damage if he backdashes out of it)

That blue charging grab thing can go into anti air grab, so prob safest to leave it alone unless youre near him when he starts. Not sure if it builds him meter

Meaty cr M xx S1 (and cr M in general) loses to wakeup armor kick.
Meaty cr LLL xx S1 will BEAT wakeup armor kick.
Meaty far M -> H will BEAT armor kick.

If it's a shoulder tackle talos instead of magentism, the air shoulder charge seems safe if not plus for talos, and they tend to press stuff like cr L after. Look for this habit and blow it up by blocking the shoulder and use S2.

He can grab your landing as a punish!! Cant do the kof hold up while jumping to perpetually avoid grabs. Even can get anti aired by super grab in some cases if they're good at the timing.

(mirror)

LOTS of S1. Once supers are in play, look to punish held S1's with super and bait super with noncharged S1's.

S1 xx Super is prob best use of meter, even if it’s a combo like LLL xx S1 xx super

Test the players AA abilities, cr H is a great AA in this matchup but lots of daunts don’t use it.

Crossups can be hard to deal with, repeated crossups can be good to bait S2 for a full punish.


S2 xx dash combos tend to go a long way in this match.

Projectile seems too fast to punish with super

Windmill move is punishable on block by L xx S1


Havent fought many of these, not sure what to expect.

Has overhead reset potential and just a far range overhead combo starter in general.
Has a far range low threat that leads to knockdown (think sf4 guy slide).
His low jabs seem to be really good but not sure if he can get true damage off of them.

Charged S1 does a lot of work in this matchup to get close and punish stuff. Prob the best use of super as well.

His DP is pretty good and seems to be S2 if done simultaneously but can be crossed up much easier than chel's, so going for knockdown crossups not a bad idea.
Often the crossup will tag his DP out of the air, but the way the juggles work you can do the cl.M -> H xx S3b combo as normal and still get all of it.

Can be a good idea to mash S2 during his combos until he starts looking for it, will pop him if he goes for the resets (which are common!)
If not trying to mash out, good idea to default block high at least during his combos, because the damaging reset seems to come only off overhead.