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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 26 2015 22:30 GMT
#61
On January 27 2015 07:22 Leafty wrote:
Show nested quote +
Professional players, their managers, and teams’ organization staff, should under no circumstances gamble on CS:GO matches, associate with high volume CS:GO gamblers, or deliver information to others that might influence their CS:GO bets.

Dear casters (RoomOnFire, Faceit's ddk & james, etc.), please follow that rule too, I really cringe each time you mention betting (especially on csgl). As you want to support the game to grow to be a great e-sport, encouraging under-aged to gamble is not what I call professional.

Betting sites sponsor some of the tournaments/streams/teams, it's obligatory that they mention it.
Writer@WriterYamato
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
January 26 2015 22:37 GMT
#62
On January 27 2015 07:22 Leafty wrote:
Show nested quote +
Professional players, their managers, and teams’ organization staff, should under no circumstances gamble on CS:GO matches, associate with high volume CS:GO gamblers, or deliver information to others that might influence their CS:GO bets.

Dear casters (RoomOnFire, Faceit's ddk & james, etc.), please follow that rule too, I really cringe each time you mention betting (especially on csgl). As you want to support the game to grow to be a great e-sport, encouraging under-aged to gamble is not what I call professional.


I actually find it interesting to hear those numbers as you get to see who the community thinks will win.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 26 2015 22:42 GMT
#63
Appalling. Good riddance.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 22:45:50
January 26 2015 22:45 GMT
#64
My question is, why is Skadoodle not on the list? Souma brought it up, I'd like a statement :o
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Gof
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden120 Posts
January 26 2015 22:45 GMT
#65
NA scene got fucking rekd.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 26 2015 22:47 GMT
#66
Good to see Valve take a stance.
WriterXiao8~~
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
January 26 2015 22:49 GMT
#67
On January 27 2015 07:45 Djzapz wrote:
My question is, why is Skadoodle not on the list? Souma brought it up, I'd like a statement :o

Who knows.

My guess is that Valve looked at the item exchange on the steam accounts and since Skadoodle received nothing linked to the skins from the betting they decided he was not involved.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 22:52:46
January 26 2015 22:51 GMT
#68
Fuck yeah, Skadoodle is clean.

Tarik's team too, such a relief.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
AC3
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada337 Posts
January 26 2015 22:54 GMT
#69
On January 27 2015 07:16 Roggay wrote:
On a side note, this also mean that Steel will not be able to be an observer, which is really upsetting as he is the best out there.

He was so good at MLG Aspen, it's unfortunate he won't be able to continue in this role either.
"The idea is to try to give all of the information to help others to judge the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to judgment in one particular direction or another" -- Richard Feynman
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
January 26 2015 22:55 GMT
#70
steel is saying some shit on ESEA forums that atleast hazed knew of the throw against them, could be bullshit though
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
January 26 2015 22:58 GMT
#71
Maybe the implication of this is Shahzam is out and Skadoodle's in... maybe C9's not going to have to disband after their embarrassing performance at MLG.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
January 26 2015 23:00 GMT
#72
On January 27 2015 07:58 Djzapz wrote:
Maybe the implication of this is Shahzam is out and Skadoodle's in... maybe C9's not going to have to disband after their embarrassing performance at MLG.


Is it common for csgo teams to do that? He like just joined.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 23:04:53
January 26 2015 23:02 GMT
#73
On January 27 2015 08:00 TBone- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 07:58 Djzapz wrote:
Maybe the implication of this is Shahzam is out and Skadoodle's in... maybe C9's not going to have to disband after their embarrassing performance at MLG.


Is it common for csgo teams to do that? He like just joined.

NA teams spend more time on disbanding and/or roster changes than on playing the game actually.

Or they end their career directly by stealing some money. xD
R.I.P. swag, most talented NA player.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 23:04:08
January 26 2015 23:03 GMT
#74
more news on the way.

all convicted players banned from ESEA for 1 year: http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=news&d=comments&id=14376

NCG's team left the NCG organization:


Richard Lewis on stream now:



We'll have a bigger article on this later tonight. stay tuned!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
January 26 2015 23:04 GMT
#75
RIP NA lol. sad day.

at least ska isn't banned, but damn, swag gone for a year, that's rough.

however, it's pretty obvious that this wasn't the only instance of this match fixing. I mean the trading on cud's betting accounts was still active even up to a few weeks ago. this situation just has the highest profile players and most evidence.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 26 2015 23:05 GMT
#76
I'm very glad that valve put down this verdict as it's the only way for the verdict to be unquestionable.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 23:07:02
January 26 2015 23:06 GMT
#77
On January 27 2015 08:04 Looms wrote:
RIP NA lol. sad day.

at least ska isn't banned, but damn, swag gone for a year, that's rough.

however, it's pretty obvious that this wasn't the only instance of this match fixing. I mean the trading on cud's betting accounts was still active even up to a few weeks ago. this situation just has the highest profile players and most evidence.

swag and the other guys are basically gone forever. The Valve ban is permanent. Why should any team pick them up if they can't play in major tournaments.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
January 26 2015 23:07 GMT
#78
Only a year from ESEA. Swag is gone permanently from all Valve sponsored tournaments, and potentially the lower level tournaments if they decide to follow Valve's banlist.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
January 26 2015 23:09 GMT
#79
from swag:

"First and foremost I want to apologize to all the fans and sponsors I let down," he wrote on Facebook.

"I was aware of what was happening and allowed it to happen without saying anything. Stealing from people is wrong, and I got what I deserved.

"I just wanted to reach out to people online and formally apologize because I feel like it is owed. I feel it is important people know that I was not the benefactor from this scandal like some of the other players were.

"I received very few skins in comparison to some of the other players and I honestly don't know why as I could careless about skins.

"If you've seen my inventory I still use half of the default skins. I understand by taking one skin, I am wrong, and should be banned.

"I just wanted the public to know my level of involvement was no where near the person organizing this."

--



"This is very unfortunate for me moving forward but the ban was necessary in order to set a precedent for future players to come," he says.

"I hope one day valve may have mercy on me and let me compete again. Until then I am deeply sorry to all my fans and everyone that supported me that I was involved in this, and not just because we got caught."
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 23:13:05
January 26 2015 23:10 GMT
#80
Sucks for swag, he's a kid and you can bet this 15 year old wasn't pulling the strings.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
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