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iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
January 26 2015 23:12 GMT
#81
On January 27 2015 08:10 Djzapz wrote:
Sucks for swag, he's a kid and you can bet this 15 year old wasn't pulling the strings.

Doesn't matter. He said it himself: "I understand by taking one skin, I am wrong, and should be banned."
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 23:13:20
January 26 2015 23:12 GMT
#82
On January 27 2015 08:12 iXphobos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 08:10 Djzapz wrote:
Sucks for swag, he's a kid and you can bet this 15 year old wasn't pulling the strings.

Doesn't matter. He said it himself: "I understand by taking one skin, I am wrong, and should be banned."

Yeah, retrospect is a thing

But my point is that at his age, if my older teammates told me to throw an insignificant game for profit, I wouldn't have had the spine (or the moral compass) to refuse.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
January 26 2015 23:14 GMT
#83
how happy is EG right now? lol they definitely dodged a bullet.

new EG form with hiko/ska/desi core please
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
January 26 2015 23:16 GMT
#84
On January 27 2015 08:12 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 08:12 iXphobos wrote:
On January 27 2015 08:10 Djzapz wrote:
Sucks for swag, he's a kid and you can bet this 15 year old wasn't pulling the strings.

Doesn't matter. He said it himself: "I understand by taking one skin, I am wrong, and should be banned."

Yeah, retrospect is a thing

But my point is that at his age, if my older teammates told me to throw an insignificant game for profit, I wouldn't have had the spine (or the moral compass) to refuse.

He surely isn't the mastermind behind all this. But you're still guilty if you're just the driver at a bank robbery and you're older friends told you to do so.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 26 2015 23:17 GMT
#85
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The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
January 26 2015 23:19 GMT
#86
On January 27 2015 08:16 iXphobos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 08:12 Djzapz wrote:
On January 27 2015 08:12 iXphobos wrote:
On January 27 2015 08:10 Djzapz wrote:
Sucks for swag, he's a kid and you can bet this 15 year old wasn't pulling the strings.

Doesn't matter. He said it himself: "I understand by taking one skin, I am wrong, and should be banned."

Yeah, retrospect is a thing

But my point is that at his age, if my older teammates told me to throw an insignificant game for profit, I wouldn't have had the spine (or the moral compass) to refuse.

He surely isn't the mastermind behind all this. But you're still guilty if you're just the driver at a bank robbery and you're older friends told you to do so.

Heh I think young age can be an attenuating circumstance. Not saying he shouldn't be banned but I'm saying if you're young you may deserve a second chance. Dazed, however, got into a skype call with a videogaming journalist and Shahzam (who is the one who initially got caught telling people that the game was being thrown before it was played). In that phone call he essentially put Shahzam's integrity into question (not an unfair strategy considering) and basically acted like the idea that IBP was throwing was preposterous.

Can't trust a fucking asshole like that.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
January 26 2015 23:19 GMT
#87
They got what they deserved but unfortunately there has been recorded match fixing in the European scene as well that has gone unpunished in the same manner.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
January 26 2015 23:19 GMT
#88
rofl that mcdonalds careers reply
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 23:20:46
January 26 2015 23:20 GMT
#89
On January 27 2015 08:16 iXphobos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 08:12 Djzapz wrote:
On January 27 2015 08:12 iXphobos wrote:
On January 27 2015 08:10 Djzapz wrote:
Sucks for swag, he's a kid and you can bet this 15 year old wasn't pulling the strings.

Doesn't matter. He said it himself: "I understand by taking one skin, I am wrong, and should be banned."

Yeah, retrospect is a thing

But my point is that at his age, if my older teammates told me to throw an insignificant game for profit, I wouldn't have had the spine (or the moral compass) to refuse.

He surely isn't the mastermind behind all this. But you're still guilty if you're just the driver at a bank robbery and you're older friends told you to do so.


I don't think anyone is saying swag isnt guilty, just that it is understandable that that shit happens when you are young. This really fucks the NA scene though, 2 of top 4 teams gone.


Good ol NBK.
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 23:23:44
January 26 2015 23:23 GMT
#90
Dat McD ad. XD
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
January 26 2015 23:25 GMT
#91
"According to a statement issued by ESEA, even though the bans have been issued for just a year, it reserves the right to extend them "indefinitely". "
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 26 2015 23:30 GMT
#92
Hard to overemphasize the importance of good management, professional organization, and mature leadership in esports. Otherwise the combination of guaranteed money from a fix and the lack of perspective to know better will prove too strong for talented young players.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
January 26 2015 23:34 GMT
#93
On January 27 2015 08:30 tree.hugger wrote:
Hard to overemphasize the importance of good management, professional organization, and mature leadership in esports. Otherwise the combination of guaranteed money from a fix and the lack of perspective to know better will prove too strong for talented young players.


I agree completely. However, in 2014, the NA CS scene lacked all three of those standards.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
January 26 2015 23:43 GMT
#94
I feel bad for swag. I remember being a kid and making dumb mistakes.

Just goes to show, can't trust women! (Joke referencing how this all came to light. R-E-L-A-X)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 26 2015 23:45 GMT
#95
I wish valve would do this for dota but ohwell
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
January 26 2015 23:47 GMT
#96

[–]OfficialHikoFormer Cloud9 Player [score hidden] 51 minutes ago

RIP the dream. Skadoodle and myself will be looking at our options in the coming days and deciding what our next best move from here will be. It's a shame what happened to those guys, and even more a shame they would be willing to risk their professional career just to win skins. They definitely deserve what happened to them, and I will not associate myself with these guys any longer.



new team inc!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 27 2015 00:03 GMT
#97
Cud trying to bribe CSGORep mod for his trade ban from that group

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSGOREPorts#announcements/detail/138818333203969403
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
January 27 2015 00:07 GMT
#98
On January 27 2015 08:47 Looms wrote:
Show nested quote +

[–]OfficialHikoFormer Cloud9 Player [score hidden] 51 minutes ago

RIP the dream. Skadoodle and myself will be looking at our options in the coming days and deciding what our next best move from here will be. It's a shame what happened to those guys, and even more a shame they would be willing to risk their professional career just to win skins. They definitely deserve what happened to them, and I will not associate myself with these guys any longer.



new team inc!


Well, he was talking over twitter with the Optic owner. Wouldn't be bad for a new organization looking to expand into CS:GO to pick them both up and build a team around them.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
January 27 2015 00:09 GMT
#99
On January 27 2015 09:03 amazingxkcd wrote:
Cud trying to bribe CSGORep mod for his trade ban from that group

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSGOREPorts#announcements/detail/138818333203969403

Who the fuck is cud anyway? What did he do exactly?
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
January 27 2015 00:10 GMT
#100
2 of the stronger NA igls just got lifebanned. wowow
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
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