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On January 27 2015 08:10 Djzapz wrote: Sucks for swag, he's a kid and you can bet this 15 year old wasn't pulling the strings. Doesn't matter. He said it himself: "I understand by taking one skin, I am wrong, and should be banned."
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On January 27 2015 08:12 iXphobos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 08:10 Djzapz wrote: Sucks for swag, he's a kid and you can bet this 15 year old wasn't pulling the strings. Doesn't matter. He said it himself: "I understand by taking one skin, I am wrong, and should be banned." Yeah, retrospect is a thing 
But my point is that at his age, if my older teammates told me to throw an insignificant game for profit, I wouldn't have had the spine (or the moral compass) to refuse.
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how happy is EG right now? lol they definitely dodged a bullet.
new EG form with hiko/ska/desi core please
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On January 27 2015 08:12 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 08:12 iXphobos wrote:On January 27 2015 08:10 Djzapz wrote: Sucks for swag, he's a kid and you can bet this 15 year old wasn't pulling the strings. Doesn't matter. He said it himself: "I understand by taking one skin, I am wrong, and should be banned." Yeah, retrospect is a thing  But my point is that at his age, if my older teammates told me to throw an insignificant game for profit, I wouldn't have had the spine (or the moral compass) to refuse. He surely isn't the mastermind behind all this. But you're still guilty if you're just the driver at a bank robbery and you're older friends told you to do so.
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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On January 27 2015 08:16 iXphobos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 08:12 Djzapz wrote:On January 27 2015 08:12 iXphobos wrote:On January 27 2015 08:10 Djzapz wrote: Sucks for swag, he's a kid and you can bet this 15 year old wasn't pulling the strings. Doesn't matter. He said it himself: "I understand by taking one skin, I am wrong, and should be banned." Yeah, retrospect is a thing  But my point is that at his age, if my older teammates told me to throw an insignificant game for profit, I wouldn't have had the spine (or the moral compass) to refuse. He surely isn't the mastermind behind all this. But you're still guilty if you're just the driver at a bank robbery and you're older friends told you to do so. Heh I think young age can be an attenuating circumstance. Not saying he shouldn't be banned but I'm saying if you're young you may deserve a second chance. Dazed, however, got into a skype call with a videogaming journalist and Shahzam (who is the one who initially got caught telling people that the game was being thrown before it was played). In that phone call he essentially put Shahzam's integrity into question (not an unfair strategy considering) and basically acted like the idea that IBP was throwing was preposterous.
Can't trust a fucking asshole like that.
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They got what they deserved but unfortunately there has been recorded match fixing in the European scene as well that has gone unpunished in the same manner.
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rofl that mcdonalds careers reply
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On January 27 2015 08:16 iXphobos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 08:12 Djzapz wrote:On January 27 2015 08:12 iXphobos wrote:On January 27 2015 08:10 Djzapz wrote: Sucks for swag, he's a kid and you can bet this 15 year old wasn't pulling the strings. Doesn't matter. He said it himself: "I understand by taking one skin, I am wrong, and should be banned." Yeah, retrospect is a thing  But my point is that at his age, if my older teammates told me to throw an insignificant game for profit, I wouldn't have had the spine (or the moral compass) to refuse. He surely isn't the mastermind behind all this. But you're still guilty if you're just the driver at a bank robbery and you're older friends told you to do so.
I don't think anyone is saying swag isnt guilty, just that it is understandable that that shit happens when you are young. This really fucks the NA scene though, 2 of top 4 teams gone.
Good ol NBK.
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"According to a statement issued by ESEA, even though the bans have been issued for just a year, it reserves the right to extend them "indefinitely". "
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Hard to overemphasize the importance of good management, professional organization, and mature leadership in esports. Otherwise the combination of guaranteed money from a fix and the lack of perspective to know better will prove too strong for talented young players.
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On January 27 2015 08:30 tree.hugger wrote: Hard to overemphasize the importance of good management, professional organization, and mature leadership in esports. Otherwise the combination of guaranteed money from a fix and the lack of perspective to know better will prove too strong for talented young players.
I agree completely. However, in 2014, the NA CS scene lacked all three of those standards.
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I feel bad for swag. I remember being a kid and making dumb mistakes.
Just goes to show, can't trust women! (Joke referencing how this all came to light. R-E-L-A-X)
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I wish valve would do this for dota but ohwell
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[–]OfficialHikoFormer Cloud9 Player [score hidden] 51 minutes ago
RIP the dream. Skadoodle and myself will be looking at our options in the coming days and deciding what our next best move from here will be. It's a shame what happened to those guys, and even more a shame they would be willing to risk their professional career just to win skins. They definitely deserve what happened to them, and I will not associate myself with these guys any longer.
new team inc!
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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On January 27 2015 08:47 Looms wrote:Show nested quote + [–]OfficialHikoFormer Cloud9 Player [score hidden] 51 minutes ago
RIP the dream. Skadoodle and myself will be looking at our options in the coming days and deciding what our next best move from here will be. It's a shame what happened to those guys, and even more a shame they would be willing to risk their professional career just to win skins. They definitely deserve what happened to them, and I will not associate myself with these guys any longer.
new team inc!
Well, he was talking over twitter with the Optic owner. Wouldn't be bad for a new organization looking to expand into CS:GO to pick them both up and build a team around them.
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Who the fuck is cud anyway? What did he do exactly?
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
2 of the stronger NA igls just got lifebanned. wowow
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