if everything in the article is nothing but true, i hope there is some sort of punishment. dboorn, a member involved, has already been punished as he lost his esea black membership today. i hope we see some more backlash from leagues; again, only if this is nothing but true.

MassHysteria

United States3678 Posts

January 17 2015 07:14 GMT

#25

He has found some new info (the girl posted those screenshots almost 2 weeks ago) which legitimizes his previous work and gives something solid to go on which is nice but anyone who watched that game and then saw the shahzam screenshots didn't have any problem believing if after the first time. Plus, there have been a lot of new people brought into the CS scene since this happened and no major tournaments atm, so just great timing on the release also.

What hurt R.Lewis more than anything the first time is the fact that it was Shahzam who was essentially his main source of information. Anything that came from shahzam was going to initially cause negative reactions/ mixed emotions.

With this said, I myself was really surprised at how the cs:go community really didn't care all too much. I thought it would be like sc2, with people even wanting to email sponsors, etc but the major consensus of the community seemed to not take it too seriously. Or just be willing to look past it.

R.Lewis does seem to have shahzam's back in his piece. He portrays him in a good way, etc.. Definitely a little I scratch your back, you scratch mine going on between them. Good investigating by him in any way.

s.a.y

Croatia3840 Posts

January 17 2015 10:50 GMT

#26

I hope players get banned from future tournaments. It's the only way it can mean anything.

Good work by Lewis.

ahswtini

Northern Ireland22208 Posts

January 17 2015 11:08 GMT

#27

The drama is neverending in the csgo scene

wallhacker

5 Posts

January 17 2015 11:18 GMT

#28

there's no point to having picking up a roster that can't be on CSGL. Am I wrong thinking the only way teams get exposure in CSGO is if a match is on CSGL, there's a LAN, or the reddits?

amazingxkcd

GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts

January 17 2015 12:04 GMT

#29

On January 17 2015 20:18 wallhacker wrote:
there's no point to having picking up a roster that can't be on CSGL. Am I wrong thinking the only way teams get exposure in CSGO is if a match is on CSGL, there's a LAN, or the reddits?

skins definitely help with exposing the game to more viewers. Remember when CSGL banned ESEA from their site? ESEA only had like 400 viewers a match for those 2 weeks.

Miragee

8482 Posts

January 17 2015 12:12 GMT

#30

On January 17 2015 21:04 amazingxkcd wrote:

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skins definitely help with exposing the game to more viewers. Remember when CSGL banned ESEA from their site? ESEA only had like 400 viewers a match for those 2 weeks.

And that's completly stupid. It should be about the game not the skins.

plgElwood

Germany518 Posts

January 17 2015 12:15 GMT

#31

Counterstrike = Kiddies, Cheats the skinsystem might add to the matchfixing aspect because its super easy and concentrated

Becaus of the "Box Dropping" and the need to buy a key to have a chance of "winning content", it's basicly per definition lottery and gamble. If valve does not have a licencse it could even get banned in germany.

okramv

Cuba30 Posts

January 17 2015 12:23 GMT

#32

On January 17 2015 21:04 amazingxkcd wrote:

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skins definitely help with exposing the game to more viewers. Remember when CSGL banned ESEA from their site? ESEA only had like 400 viewers a match for those 2 weeks.

That's also when the game had 20k concurrents. Now it has close to 400k concurrents

nkr

Sweden5451 Posts

January 17 2015 13:16 GMT

#33

sigh... at least it makes you appreciate how professional sc2 is (in comparison) at the top levels

TurboDreams

United States427 Posts

January 17 2015 14:46 GMT

#34

That timing though, well its going to be tough for them to find sponsors now. The news is five months late, but better late then never for the sake of integrity of the scene.

Wunder

United Kingdom2950 Posts

January 17 2015 15:19 GMT

#35

The scary or sad thing is that while this confirms the iBP/NCG match, there is almost no way to prove that there was or is a larger match fixing circle that involves these players. While some action needs to be taken, I don't see what exactly leagues can do - ban Torqued, ex-iBP and the newly minted CLG team? It's absolutely frightening to think about since it would all but dismantle the NA scene that for once actually started picking up steam with competitive teams.

wallhacker

5 Posts

January 17 2015 15:21 GMT

#36

Maybe a decent fine ($10k-$20k??) and banning them from one or two of the next majors?

DEN1ED

United States1087 Posts

January 17 2015 16:10 GMT

#37

On January 17 2015 21:12 Miragee wrote:

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And that's completly stupid. It should be about the game not the skins.

Not really. Betting skins adds interest to games that otherwise don't interest people. Sure, as a Cloud9/NiP fan I will watch all their games just to watch and love it. Same goes for any matches at Majors/Lans. But random cevo week 4.2 match between Lunatik and Area 51 I really don't give a shit about unless I can bet skins.

Miragee

8482 Posts

January 17 2015 16:13 GMT

#38

On January 18 2015 01:10 DEN1ED wrote:

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Not really. Betting skins adds interest to games that otherwise don't interest me. Sure, as a Cloud9/NiP fan I will watch all their games just to watch and love it. Same goes for any matches at Majors/Lans. But random cevo week 4.2 match between Lunatik and Area 51 I really don't give a shit about unless I can bet skins.

You still don't give a shit about that random game. You give a shit about the skins.

RuiBarbO

United States1340 Posts

January 17 2015 16:17 GMT

#39

Dang, I remember when this happened, Shahzam and Dazed went on Summit's stream to basically talk about how ridiculous the allegations were. Weird to think now what was really going on...

DEN1ED

United States1087 Posts

January 17 2015 16:34 GMT

#40

On January 18 2015 01:13 Miragee wrote:

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You still don't give a shit about that random game. You give a shit about the skins.

Exactly, but now I am at least watching the game. So the views dropping dramatically when esea was banned makes perfect sense. You can say it's stupid, but it's reality.