Nintendo Announces Smash Bros Invitational Tourney - Page 3

On May 03 2014 09:30 hoby2000 wrote:
Did you all take stupid pills this morning? (not trying to be offensive, just a good Toy Story quote for this situation).

Do you guys remember Brawl? Do you guys remember how they had a tournament for that too? Do any of you remember that Nintendo themselves attempted to stop Melee from being streamed at EVO last year, then barely gave permission to EVO to let it be played again and streamed? And Sakurai still being against competitive gaming?

What this news means is that Nintendo still doesn't give a shit about Smash bros. - They're low on money, and need some good press. They're not going to help the competitive scene, and more than likely, is attempting to kill both Melee and PM so people will play the new smash game. Remember, the Wii U has done horribly, and they need a title to make them money. Once they have the smash community in their hands, they will break it again, and they will not feel bad.

I like Nintendo, don't get me wrong, but I'm not stupid enough to believe that they've suddenly decided to appreciate the smash community. They've been nothing but tyrants lately when it comes to their games (see: Youtube Witch Hunt for Nintendo content), and I don't think they suddenly fizzled out. THey're going to do what every entity with power does - which is convince the masses they are good, then slowly do what said entity originally planned.

I want to be excited about this news, I do - But given the evidence and circumstances, I have serious doubts about Nintendo being completely legit about this whole thing.

On May 03 2014 11:24 rabidch wrote:
at the same time, there's reasons why nintendo would want to flip flop now:
smash documentary, successful esports tournaments in FGC,LoL,Dota2 (with the latter two being extremely profitable for the developer companies) with more and more general acceptance of this stuff, a good way to show off their new game

also its an invitiational. im not sure who theyre going to invite, but if theyre going to invite well known players the last thing they would want to do is make them and the community mad.



valve has done the whole ignorance of esports in the past with the way they squashed css, after dota2 they completely changed and are very attentive to these things now

On May 03 2014 12:44 Reuental wrote:


Valve are gods because they did the thing that every other developer has been to retarded to do, and that is to make a .99 to 1 port of the previous game with updated graphics. The only way that Smash4 could possibly be completely successful and good for the community would for it to be a .99 to 1 port of Melee with updated graphics and new characters + stages. This would be the only reason why many competitive smashers would buy a WiiU. I see setups being a GIGANTIC issue with smash4, as fucking no one owns a WiiU. Can you even use gamecube controllers on a wiiU? That would also be a deal breaker, because if you can't use them no one will switch.

On May 03 2014 13:09 Yergidy wrote:
Worst case scenario you keep playing melee the same as you always have.

On May 04 2014 04:26 Reuental wrote:


The worst case scenario is that the community fragments AGAIN, melee/PM is thrown back another couple of years, and people can no longer play the game they want to play as much as they do now. Go look up what happened to Melee in the immediate few years after brawl, what happened to the counterstrike community after Source, what happened to the Quake community after Quake 4, and what happened to the Halo community after Halo Reach before you post your optimistic 'lets wait and see guys! Whats the worse that could happen?!'.

On May 04 2014 04:26 Reuental wrote:


The worst case scenario is that the community fragments AGAIN, melee/PM is thrown back another couple of years, and people can no longer play the game they want to play as much as they do now. Go look up what happened to Melee in the immediate few years after brawl, what happened to the counterstrike community after Source, what happened to the Quake community after Quake 4, and what happened to the Halo community after Halo Reach before you post your optimistic 'lets wait and see guys! Whats the worse that could happen?!'.

On May 06 2014 06:10 ffadicted wrote:


How exactly is that a deal breaker haha The GC controller is NOT by any means the be-all-end-all of smash.

On May 06 2014 06:32 Reuental wrote:


I am sorry, I should been more clear, I should have said 'gamecube equivalent controller'. All I remember is that the original Wii classic controller wasn't so hot(they might have not updated and put out a new version, not sure). Also, I after a 10 second google search I couldn't find any wired WiiU controllers which is important, not because of lag+ Show Spoiler +, but because they might interfere with each other at large events. I remember this being a issue at large xbox 360 events, but technology might have progressed to the point where this is no longer a issue.

On May 01 2014 02:20 EchOne wrote:
Are you saying that crouch canceling kills aggression in Melee? That's an odd statement to make, care to elaborate further?