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Hey there TL smashers,
I recently procured a new GameCube after about five years without (my last one died from too much loving). I got a fantastic deal and I still had my old copy of smash+ memory card so I was all set. But all I have in the way of controllers is one solid, working official one, an official one with a janky semi usable joystick, and two totally shit third party ones that are unusable in any way.
So here's the point of this thread: where is the best place to pick up reliable controllers? Or do most people in the smash scene just repair old ones? I'm curious about that process for people here, since playing SSBM competitively seems to be a good way to burn through controllers I figure there must be a decent market somewhere.
I've found a bunch of videos on YouTube that talk about joystick repair, but that doesn't seem like the way to go since most of those mods are temporary and will have to be replaced every few weeks of hard smashing, which is my intended use. Amazon and eBay are where I'm looking for controllers as of now, all the third party ones are complete shit, and I'm wary of used controller purchasing via the web, as there's no guarantee that "lightly used" means what I want it to mean. So right now I'm looking for new ones online, or refurbished/used ones in person so I can check out their quality myself. I've got requests out to all my friends who still have or know people who have NGC stuff lying around to see if any of them will donate or sell me their controllers, otherwise I'll be checking out some used game shops in Denver this week to see what's around. I'd REALLY like to avoid paying $50 each to get a guaranteed quality controller.
What are your guys' thoughts/experiences? I haven't found a SSB specific market for this yet on smashboards or otherwise, but I may just be looking in the wrong places.
Thanks
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You can get them from Play-Asia or Amazon. I'm pretty sure you could pick one up for about $30 when it's on sale so it's not like you have to shell out a lot for them. They will be new as these are the white ones that have longer cords and were made for the Wii
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I'm on it Sson
Shalt learn the way of GameCube
When I learn this, I will make a thread.
Edit: NOPE. I cannot solder
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With the replacement cap, does it fix the looseness and misfiring? I just assumed those were for worn off grips and such, and that fixing the misfiring and looseness from overuse you'd have to replace the whole joystick housing.
I'll check out those sites, and definitely wait until they're on sale. I've found some legit looking used deals on eBay, that are around that sale price, but I'd rather have a new controller obviously.
Thanks for the input guys, now to learn how to not play this game like a scrub..
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On April 26 2014 14:58 Kommatiazo wrote:With the replacement cap, does it fix the looseness and misfiring? I just assumed those were for worn off grips and such, and that fixing the misfiring and looseness from overuse you'd have to replace the whole joystick housing. I'll check out those sites, and definitely wait until they're on sale. I've found some legit looking used deals on eBay, that are around that sale price, but I'd rather have a new controller obviously. Thanks for the input guys, now to learn how to not play this game like a scrub..
I feel you on playing like a scrub. I act like I know what the difference between playing as peach is from playing as like "lol you really need that recovery man- u just trying to survive?"
(btw no one has said that to me. I like to make proverbial people jerks.)
Frankly I will just shell out the $45 for Nintendo OEM from Amazon when I need new controllers, but since I have a job and play more 64 that's easier on at least three fronts.
+ Show Spoiler +
Think my math sucks? Nope.
Job means more money, 1
Job means less time spent wearing controllers, 2
N64 means gamecube controllers last longer, a whopping 3
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lol nice. I have at about 5 friends that I play with almost nightly who are able to BYOC for the time being. But as soon as those white ones go on sale on play asian or amazon I'm all over that. I NEED them lol
Just finished my first 6 hour session in a decade. So wonderful. This game is so radical
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My white gc controller just came in a couple days ago and I'm in love with it.
I still can't short hop laser in the direction I want though, so I guess I falsely blamed my old controller for no reason :S
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On April 26 2014 17:38 Kommatiazo wrote:
lol nice. I have at about 5 friends that I play with almost nightly who are able to BYOC for the time being. But as soon as those white ones go on sale on play asian or amazon I'm all over that. I NEED them lol
Just finished my first 6 hour session in a decade. So wonderful. This game is so radical
MAN DUDE u for to make me jealous
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PSA: White controllers have fewer springs, so the triggers don't press as easily.
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On April 27 2014 16:21 Moobla wrote:
PSA: White controllers have fewer springs, so the triggers don't press as easily.
Hijole
Isn't Nintendo making them?
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On April 27 2014 17:13 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2014 16:21 Moobla wrote:
PSA: White controllers have fewer springs, so the triggers don't press as easily. Hijole Isn't Nintendo making them?
Yes. I don't know if the triggers are actually problematic. It's just what I heard. There may be no noticeable difference.
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I bought a White controller, but changed the back side with a clear purple one so I have the original L, R and Z buttons.
Works really great!
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On April 27 2014 18:27 Moobla wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2014 17:13 Alakaslam wrote:On April 27 2014 16:21 Moobla wrote:
PSA: White controllers have fewer springs, so the triggers don't press as easily. Hijole Isn't Nintendo making them? Yes. I don't know if the triggers are actually problematic. It's just what I heard. There may be no noticeable difference.
so in the white controllers, the spring on average is longer than in (at the very least) the old black and indigo controllers, as well as the early platinum controllers. if the tension is different, that could account for the relatively common opinion that the shoulders are "mushy" or "weird".
some people have also noted that L/R will "lock" or stick sometimes, usually if you don't push them in completely straight (e.g. if your particular grip pushes them back towards the back of the controller body slightly in addition to pushing them in). this is related to a minor difference in the actual parts used in the shoulder button assembly on the white controller, as far as i can tell.
my personal sample is pretty small—i've only taken apart and examined 4 white controllers—but they all had the same "defect":
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZQ5lxhw.jpg)
the grey shoulder button has a peg on its underside, which fits into a hole on the black base. on the white controllers, the diameter of the hole in the black piece is slightly smaller, which seems to explain the stickiness. swapping it with the corresponding piece from any other controller, and leaving the rest of the parts (the grey shoulder button, the spring, the metal piece and the actual button) the same, gets rid of the locking problem.
i did this a few days ago and my white controller feels almost identical to my previous favorite spice controller, where last week, L/R would lock maybe once or twice per match and just felt noticeably different in general.
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the white gamecube controller has been solid for me so far!
LOVE IT.
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Maybe it's to make uptilting easier...? I dunno, lol.
Maybe the guy just plays hardcore alldayerrday. Then again, when my control stick takes abuse, the whole pad flies off rather than having one huge gash on the side lol
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To me it looks like undesirable wear and tear. I have no idea if they're leaving it in intentionally, but as soon as that starts happening to my control sticks I start looking for a replacement.
But yeah if you play a lot of smash that kind of damage is inevitable.
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