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Nickemwit
United States253 Posts
Check out the stream this Saturday and Sunday at http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/VGBootCamp The schedule and further details available here: http://smashboards.com/threads/norcal-melee-presents-the-next-episode-march-22-23-oakland-ca-now-with-hax.347729/ | ||
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MountainGoat
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MTB
France26 Posts
It will be really interesting to see who takes it home indeed. I'd say that KK will make it to top 3 or even Grand Finals. Hax is less certain, as a result of his character choice. And I'll be rooting for PPU of course. | ||
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Count9
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MTB
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MountainGoat
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Spazer
Canada8029 Posts
On March 22 2014 01:36 MTB wrote: I wish we had liquibets on these! It will be really interesting to see who takes it home indeed. I'd say that KK will make it to top 3 or even Grand Finals. Hax is less certain, as a result of his character choice. And I'll be rooting for PPU of course. I doubt we'll ever see liquibets for smash simply because there's not enough time to set up the bets and actually have people vote on them. It's just not a good match for the system tl has in place for starcraft. The closest you're gonna get to liquibets is vgbc's saltybets type thing. Hax is supposed to be dual maining Falcon/Fox now, so that should be more interesting at least. Definitely gonna be pulling for my man PewPewU. I need more Marth in my life. | ||
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Nickemwit
United States253 Posts
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Tufas
Austria2259 Posts
On March 22 2014 04:12 ShrieK wrote: Does anyone have any idea who to ask to get this stream featured on TL? Presumably they are interested in featuring Melee since they picked up a team, and this is the first big tournament since their announcement. I believe this would be the right thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/281401-featured-streamer-list But It appears they evaluate the new recommendations monthly so you could even open up a new thread in the website feedback forum if you want faster attention (maybe) | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On March 22 2014 04:12 ShrieK wrote: Does anyone have any idea who to ask to get this stream featured on TL? Presumably they are interested in featuring Melee since they picked up a team, and this is the first big tournament since their announcement. Knowing Liquid there's probably something in the works in terms of Smash news. As for getting the stream featured, read this for submitting an event for the Calendar: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/432203-tl-calendar-event-submissions. I think you'll have to PM a mod to get a feature, maybe Hot_bid, I think he's into smash. | ||
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Tufas
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MountainGoat
United States507 Posts
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Moobla
United States186 Posts
Can't wait for the Falcon round robin. | ||
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Zamkis
Canada114 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
wish westballz / mango could've come to play falcon as well  edit: wait, westballz actually managed to register????? shroomed was giving him shit on stream about how "you should've registered weeks ago"  | ||
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MountainGoat
United States507 Posts
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Nemyashi
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Moobla
United States186 Posts
Good to see this event in the TL calendar, good job. | ||
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MountainGoat
United States507 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Video] + | ||
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Nickemwit
United States253 Posts
I'm on mobile so hopefully the link works. Edit: oops someone already posted it | ||
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nikj
Canada669 Posts
Here is a secondary stream as well www.twitch.tv/showdownsmash | ||
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ZombieRitual
United States121 Posts
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MountainGoat
United States507 Posts
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ArvickHero
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Count9
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ArvickHero
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also casters need desks or smth lol | ||
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Lucumo
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NoHardFeelings
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On March 23 2014 05:34 ArvickHero wrote: in the 2nd stream there was one game they were playing in player slots 2 and 3, and that centered the percentages which lined up better with the overlay .. they should do this for every game :O also casters need desks or smth lol I think you have to pick the controller ports according to the stage in order to get fair starting positions. | ||
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ArvickHero
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Count9
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ArvickHero
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On March 23 2014 05:40 NoHardFeelings wrote: I think you have to pick the controller ports according to the stage in order to get fair starting positions. ohh really? Huh I didn't think that could be a factor lol | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
Need more Falcons, less Fox. | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
*ignored* HAHAHA BEST CHEMISTRY | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
and Hugs is just dominating in the 2nd stream lol | ||
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Lucumo
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np4944
Canada3 Posts
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Count9
China10928 Posts
ahh yeah, dat link again | ||
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Lucumo
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Count9
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Count9
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Lezt
United States115 Posts
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stuchiu
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Count9
China10928 Posts
On March 23 2014 06:30 Lezt wrote: tai's ability to never miss a tech-walljump is astounding I kinda wish tai would play less gimmicky. I still remember that set on yoshi's were he did everything he possibly can to do things off randall (the cloud). | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Lezt
United States115 Posts
On March 23 2014 06:37 Count9 wrote: I kinda wish tai would play less gimmicky. I still remember that set on yoshi's were he did everything he possibly can to do things off randall (the cloud). yeah I know what you mean, I remember the set you were talking about I think (koc2 or something). It makes for an interesting contrast with the new generation of marths though when you have the really flashy marths like tai and then the slower more basic marths like the moon | ||
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Spazer
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
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MTB
France26 Posts
On March 23 2014 07:49 hariooo wrote: KK is going to win this tournament so easily. Who's going to stop him? The Cali guys or Hax could definitely beat him, I'm not sure what makes you say that he's that guaranteed to win...? | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
the twitch smash ad/trailer thingy is really good | ||
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CCow
Germany335 Posts
But just watching the documentary and now the tourney stream... Really makes me want to just play the game again myself. No matter how hard I suck at it. :D Awesome stuff having it on TL! ^_^ | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On March 23 2014 09:30 CCow wrote: No idea how competitive Smash works. But just watching the documentary and now the tourney stream... Really makes me want to just play the game again myself. No matter how hard I suck at it. :D Awesome stuff having it on TL! ^_^ best thing about smash, you can play it on any skill level and it's fun as hell. | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
On March 23 2014 08:54 MTB wrote: The Cali guys or Hax could definitely beat him, I'm not sure what makes you say that he's that guaranteed to win...? They won't though. None of them are good enough. He's not going to lose to any of the top Falcon's. Shroomed is great but he's not going to beat the second best Sheik in the world. He's certainly not going to lose to a Marth. Neither SFAT nor Westballz nor even Hax have consistent enough spacey play to beat him. Maaaaaaybe Fly can do it but that's about it. Sorry, KK isn't going to lose to America's second tier. | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
On March 23 2014 09:50 hariooo wrote: They won't though. None of them are good enough. He's not going to lose to any of the top Falcon's. Shroomed is great but he's not going to beat the second best Sheik in the world. He's certainly not going to lose to a Marth. Neither SFAT nor Westballz nor even Hax have consistent enough spacey play to beat him. Maaaaaaybe Fly can do it but that's about it. Sorry, KK isn't going to lose to America's second tier. I'll just leave this here | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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ZombieRitual
United States121 Posts
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
I'll just save this post to edit in the Grand Finals vod. | ||
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Thrillz
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On March 23 2014 09:50 hariooo wrote: They won't though. None of them are good enough. He's not going to lose to any of the top Falcon's. Shroomed is great but he's not going to beat the second best Sheik in the world. He's certainly not going to lose to a Marth. Neither SFAT nor Westballz nor even Hax have consistent enough spacey play to beat him. Maaaaaaybe Fly can do it but that's about it. Sorry, KK isn't going to lose to America's second tier. lol what, I love KK but the top players could loose to anyone of the other top players in this tourney. | ||
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ArvickHero
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krndandaman
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
On March 23 2014 12:06 ArvickHero wrote: these 2v2's are so chaotic lol .. Why is friendly fire enabled?? O_o Not sure of the reasoning but it's standard and it makes recovery so much more fun. I would guess that projectile spam is really annoying without friendly fire? | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
2. It makes the game way more strategic. You actually have to space your moves not just throw them into the clusterfuck knowing you can't hurt your ally. More importantly, you can't save allies without friendly fire! | ||
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stuchiu
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stuchiu
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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Spazer
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
That was a sick falcon fight | ||
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
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Count9
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On March 23 2014 12:25 mikeymoo wrote: Not sure of the reasoning but it's standard and it makes recovery so much more fun. I would guess that projectile spam is really annoying without friendly fire? Friendly fire used to be off, and then someone went Samus/Samus.  Friendly fire on is great, though; there are so many things you can do to save your partner, not to mention you can slap your Jiggs partner awake after a Rest. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Frazzlehoon
United States3455 Posts
Epic Lord vs S2J set is up! | ||
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Spazer
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yamato77
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
Hope he does well! | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
On March 23 2014 13:57 Frazzlehoon wrote: Awww... I wanted to see a Falcon FFA on Mute City. Epic Lord vs S2J set is up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKfGNdSxy5E OMGGGGGGGGGGGG Stadium was soooo hype, that last stock holy shit | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
what happened in the falcon dittos (other than Lord vs S2J... I can only say "wow") | ||
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ArvickHero
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Slomo
Germany7197 Posts
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BrTarolg
United Kingdom3574 Posts
Hax's fox is really beastly though it's like watching a TAS | ||
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Kau
Canada3500 Posts
On March 23 2014 15:50 ]343[ wrote: darn, I was playing smash so I missed doubles/the falcon dittos what happened in the falcon dittos (other than Lord vs S2J... I can only say "wow")From the bits that I caught it was mostly Lord styling and Hax just playing to win. | ||
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stuchiu
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hariooo
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MTB
France26 Posts
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Lucumo
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Thrillz
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
On March 24 2014 02:02 MTB wrote: But that's exactly what top level Falcon is. N....no. Also nothing on stream forever. | ||
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GGQ
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Count9
China10928 Posts
On March 24 2014 07:28 GGQ wrote: Is there a bracket anywhere? think this is the one they were spamming in chat http://challonge.com/TNE_singles, no idea if real/will be updated | ||
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MTB
France26 Posts
This is not the actual bracket (as of my post), but it will tell you who will be in there. As soon as they finalize it, it should stop saying " this bracket is a preview", and it'll be the real deal. | ||
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GGQ
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MTB
France26 Posts
This one is legit, and since it's the same challonge account we can infer that the other link is also legit, just not final. | ||
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Count9
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LuckoftheIrish
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hariooo
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pellejohnson
United States1931 Posts
Overall I have to question why people watch this? I mean I loved smash back in the day but it's not really that fun to watch IMO. I'd say most other beat em ups are way more interesting to watch ( unless it's one of the 100% juggle ones) | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
On March 24 2014 08:56 pellejohnson wrote: What an asshole Overall I have to question why people watch this? I mean I loved smash back in the day but it's not really that fun to watch IMO. I'd say most other beat em ups are way more interesting to watch ( unless it's one of the 100% juggle ones) If you don't find Smash mechanics fun to watch, don't watch it. If watching games doesn't interest you, I have no idea why someone trying to explain why it's interesting would change your mind. | ||
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BrTarolg
United Kingdom3574 Posts
Falco the last hope of 20XX | ||
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hariooo
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pellejohnson
United States1931 Posts
On March 24 2014 08:59 hariooo wrote: If you don't find Smash mechanics fun to watch, don't watch it. If watching games doesn't interest you, I have no idea why someone trying to explain why it's interesting would change your mind. I was just asking what people found so fun in it... Not a lot of spectacular combos and the whole gameplay about knocking people out fits poorly for viewing. I mean people always come with comments about why watching SC is so superior to other games like Dota2 or LoL so I figured someone could tell me what makes this game interesting to watch. | ||
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Thrillz
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On March 24 2014 08:59 BrTarolg wrote: Goood dayum wes so BM lol Falco the last hope of 20XX Falco has historically been superior and more successful to Fox, and will probably continue to... 20XX is just a joke that somewhat turned into a Fox circlejerk. | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
On March 24 2014 09:10 pellejohnson wrote: I was just asking what people found so fun in it... Not a lot of spectacular combos and the whole gameplay about knocking people out fits poorly for viewing. I mean people always come with comments about why watching SC is so superior to other games like Dota2 or LoL so I figured someone could tell me what makes this game interesting to watch. If you don't think this game has spectacular combos then you'll just have to accept that this isn't for you. That would be considered a very minority opinion. Lord showing he still doesn't give a shit about winning the game but he is flashy as fuck. Edit: And watching his tech skill, he's actually so clean and consistent. Hax dash into clean platform land. Damn. If this guy wanted to play to win he'd fucking win. Edit2: Really can't wait for new commentators. These guys are alright (and have some legacy in the scene and deserve respect for that) but it really sounds like they haven't kept up with the competitive scene or meta. | ||
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Count9
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krndandaman
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stuchiu
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yamato77
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On March 23 2014 09:50 hariooo wrote: They won't though. None of them are good enough. He's not going to lose to any of the top Falcon's. Shroomed is great but he's not going to beat the second best Sheik in the world. He's certainly not going to lose to a Marth. Neither SFAT nor Westballz nor even Hax have consistent enough spacey play to beat him. Maaaaaaybe Fly can do it but that's about it. Sorry, KK isn't going to lose to America's second tier. ya boy is in loser's, bro, to a falcon who you didn't even list. | ||
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Count9
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
3 missed edgeguards on falcon chain just missed a wavedash by airdodging horizontally that led to his dead KK is playing really bad. deserved to lose that. to a falcon. wtf. I will say the new age Falcons are really doing a lot to combat the common Sheik vs Falcon tropes though. They're making the matchup look more even than ever. | ||
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Count9
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hariooo
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Edit: aHAHAHA I just realized we might end up with Fly vs Wes WF's. If you've ever watched their previous encounters it's all Wes getting the lead and choking it away on the last stock. Like, multiple times. Fly is so solid and Wes keeps trying to overrun him and failing to crack him. Wes looks really good right now tho so I'll be interested to see that matchup again. Edit2: I hope Hax doesn't fall in Loser's to Lord who plays Falcon to entertain and not win. That might crush his soul. | ||
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Count9
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krndandaman
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hariooo
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Edit: Hax & SFAT 3-2 KK PPU in teams. very 20XX. don't expect the team they face in winner's finals to have much of a chance. I'm surprised Shroomed SS got 1st seeding in teams. Edit2: KK spamming 5 fltilts on shield. lol ok get 9th. awful | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
Edit: ahhhhhhhhhhh Fiction that last stock suicide was just the conclusion of a series of tech flubs in that set. can't play that loose vs someone with PPU's level of punish game | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
hax done with that fox nonsense it seems | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
I almost hope his 20XX experiment fails. | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
very very impressive by lucky and macd | ||
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Manifesto7
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Dexavis
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
The simple answer is that this isn't a national. Not everyone is here. | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27132 Posts
On March 24 2014 12:04 Dexavis wrote: http://challonge.com/TNE_singles Thanks a lot. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On March 24 2014 12:08 hariooo wrote: This is basically a big California regional with a few out of state reps. M2k is East Coast, Wobbles is retired, Ken isn't here at all (He was at the last cali regional KoC though. bopped Fly real good), Azen is retired afaik (haven't seen him play in a long time). The simple answer is that this isn't a national. Not everyone is here. Yeah, Azen is retired. chillin was tweeting about getting h2yl back together the other day so maybe there's hope. | ||
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NotJumperer
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LuckoftheIrish
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NotJumperer
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On March 24 2014 12:14 Jumperer wrote: wobbles retired? Yes, after Evo. He's doing commentary now. He blogs a lot, too, at compete-complete.com. | ||
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MountainGoat
United States507 Posts
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Count9
China10928 Posts
20XX is from hax saying in the future (year 20XX) where everyone is completely perfect at the game with perfect tech everyone only plays fox and every game is decided by flipping a coin for port priority | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
On a completely tangential point I wish EVO had a set that was nearly as flashy as this. Wes pulls off the craziest, most crowd pleasing shit possible every single game (and has it pulled on him all the time). EVO was really tame in terms of combo video potential compared to like any other tournament in the same time frame. Edit: Hax losing to Shroomed. I'm going to assume it was a Doc which would continue Hax's streak of getting bopped by having no matchup experience against mid tiers. | ||
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MountainGoat
United States507 Posts
On March 24 2014 13:01 hariooo wrote: Wes going from getting 3 stocked to showing why this matchup is basically retarded. On a completely tangential point I wish EVO had a set that was nearly as flashy as this. Wes pulls off the craziest, most crowd pleasing shit possible every single game (and has it pulled on him all the time). EVO was really tame in terms of combo video potential compared to like any other tournament in the same time frame. Edit: Hax losing to Shroomed. I'm going to assume it was a Doc which would continue Hax's streak of getting bopped by having no matchup experience against mid tiers. It was Sheik apparently. Shroomed then went on to beat S2j with Sheik too. Looks like his Sheik is pretty on point now. Haven't seen his doc in a while. | ||
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United States4791 Posts
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phathom321
United States1730 Posts
On March 24 2014 13:25 MountainGoat wrote: It was Sheik apparently. Shroomed then went on to beat S2j with Sheik too. Looks like his Sheik is pretty on point now. Haven't seen his doc in a while. He hasn't played doc since like apex, he says that everyone has figured his doc out :/ He's been practicing a lot of marth as well. | ||
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United States4791 Posts
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
Also it's hilarious to me that Ken might just barely make it into bracket in this kind of a tournament but he beat Fly last time they met in a set. Just one of those weird style counters. Old school Marth is still pretty good. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Fly amanita vs + Show Spoiler + Westballz | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On March 24 2014 14:34 krndandaman wrote: fly's facial expressions while playing is hilarious LOL the huffing and puffing | ||
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Nickemwit
United States253 Posts
All the matches from day 2 are also uploaded to https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBDqRk-vdjxwMrOdyQbb4VZsyP80wfxm2 | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
meanwhile, hax curse still holds even without any of the top 4 in attendence looool | ||
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MTB
France26 Posts
On March 24 2014 17:39 ShrieK wrote: Here's the twitch archive for day 2 sidestream. You can also go to past broadcasts to find day 1, which had a little more content than day 2. http://www.twitch.tv/showdownsmash/b/513733054 All the matches from day 2 are also uploaded to https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBDqRk-vdjxwMrOdyQbb4VZsyP80wfxm2 It was really nice seeing you on stream man, I didn't know you were back home! Hopefully next time I'll get to root for you in singles! Mahie | ||
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Zoler
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On March 24 2014 12:23 Jumperer wrote: 20XX THE FUTURE. pls stop talking about 20xx, it's so dumb. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
Sounds like you just don't appreciate 20XX the future is now. | ||
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Nickemwit
United States253 Posts
On March 24 2014 21:49 MTB wrote: It was really nice seeing you on stream man, I didn't know you were back home! Hopefully next time I'll get to root for you in singles! Mahie I was supposed to stay in Europe for longer than I did. But I'm having a blast in NorCal and smash is so good here--I'm finally starting to beat some notable players, which is super satisfying. | ||
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pellejohnson
United States1931 Posts
On March 24 2014 09:13 hariooo wrote: If you don't think this game has spectacular combos then you'll just have to accept that this isn't for you. That would be considered a very minority opinion. Lord showing he still doesn't give a shit about winning the game but he is flashy as fuck. Edit: And watching his tech skill, he's actually so clean and consistent. Hax dash into clean platform land. Damn. If this guy wanted to play to win he'd fucking win. Edit2: Really can't wait for new commentators. These guys are alright (and have some legacy in the scene and deserve respect for that) but it really sounds like they haven't kept up with the competitive scene or meta. Might be two days late but I have to say I was kinda harsh and quick in my judgement on this game. I did watch the rest of the tournament and after a while I could see that it was a lot more exciting than it first seemed to be and i did realize it seemed to involve a lot more skill than I initially thought So forgive me for being quick to judge | ||
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