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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-29 13:34:39
January 29 2015 13:24 GMT
#8161
On January 29 2015 21:22 DCRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 19:10 Drazerk wrote:
On January 29 2015 18:39 Pandemona wrote:
But set bonuses will destroy mythic gear....just look at the set bonuses for your character and you will see. 4 set bonuses on fire makes your opening combust be retarded again. I know im going to grabbing 4 piece set bonuses asap, plus hunting for that lovely trinket :')

I understand going straight to heroic as an option, but to get the best start for Mythic progress it would be pretty nice to have set bonuses. I haven't look at any tank or healing set bonuses, but im sure they are worth it too?

The 4 set for me is a 50% mana reduction on Prayer of Healing. I already have no issues with mana and its even less of an issue when 6.1 hits and I get my mindbender buff. Plus they are buffing cascade to increase our group healing via that which makes it the go to over Prayer anyhow.

The 2 set bonus is pretty nice but it isn't exactly amazing it just means I save a GCD to proc Evangelism

Looking at every other set bonus Disc priests sure got shafted T_T

Nope never mind shadow's 4 set bonus is even worse


The 2pc is good for disc, no need to waste time on smiting, PoH is better than PW:S in hps but it drains your mana if you spam it, the set bonuses are just fine. Also 4pc shadow is good too, I'm not sure where you are getting this info priest set bonuses would be bad.


Smite is only a GCD at most its not exactly a waste of time if you've set up a macro correctly its more of a convince / slight mana save than anything. Nice but not amazing / worth losing stats over (still be very nice to pick up the hc / mythic version though)

4pc shadow kills dot weaving completely and for the current CoP rotation its not that good I don't know anything about the other 2 shadow play styles so it may have some use with Void Entropy but its gonna suck losing dot weaving because of it.
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-29 13:45:20
January 29 2015 13:41 GMT
#8162
On January 29 2015 22:24 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2015 21:22 DCRed wrote:
On January 29 2015 19:10 Drazerk wrote:
On January 29 2015 18:39 Pandemona wrote:
But set bonuses will destroy mythic gear....just look at the set bonuses for your character and you will see. 4 set bonuses on fire makes your opening combust be retarded again. I know im going to grabbing 4 piece set bonuses asap, plus hunting for that lovely trinket :')

I understand going straight to heroic as an option, but to get the best start for Mythic progress it would be pretty nice to have set bonuses. I haven't look at any tank or healing set bonuses, but im sure they are worth it too?

The 4 set for me is a 50% mana reduction on Prayer of Healing. I already have no issues with mana and its even less of an issue when 6.1 hits and I get my mindbender buff. Plus they are buffing cascade to increase our group healing via that which makes it the go to over Prayer anyhow.

The 2 set bonus is pretty nice but it isn't exactly amazing it just means I save a GCD to proc Evangelism

Looking at every other set bonus Disc priests sure got shafted T_T

Nope never mind shadow's 4 set bonus is even worse


The 2pc is good for disc, no need to waste time on smiting, PoH is better than PW:S in hps but it drains your mana if you spam it, the set bonuses are just fine. Also 4pc shadow is good too, I'm not sure where you are getting this info priest set bonuses would be bad.


Smite is only a GCD at most its not exactly a waste of time if you've set up a macro correctly its more of a convince / slight mana save than anything. Nice but not amazing / worth losing stats over (still be very nice to pick up the hc / mythic version though)

4pc shadow kills dot weaving completely and for the current CoP rotation its not that good I don't know anything about the other 2 shadow play styles so it may have some use with Void Entropy but its gonna suck losing dot weaving because of it.


It doesn't kill dotweaving, it introduces a filler or two in your weaving depending on your haste.

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Vent is not viable(talking mythic progression here) and the bonus is very good for AS which will be better than CoP for multitarget once we get the gear for it, though most progression will be done with CoP most likely.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
January 29 2015 13:54 GMT
#8163
Shadow 4pc makes AS more viable.

As for "killing CoP dotweave" no it just adds a couple fillers for reflective shields. VEnt is still shit as far as I'm aware but with an 80% buff it might see some play from some priests (just not me)

I believe my group is clearing normal/heroic as best we can and then working on M Margok next week... Assuming we kill Ko'ragh Sunday which we should considering we have only had one night on him and already getting sub 20% pulls.
In Inca we trust
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 30 2015 05:17 GMT
#8164
I don't understand what's happening with BEf weapons size on the PTR lol

They made it bigger before, andf everyone was happy, now they changed something, and it's literally the smaller it has ever been, even smaller than on live.

A 2H on BEf is smaller than a dagger on a Human female. ( for real, not joking about it )
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
February 01 2015 09:05 GMT
#8165
So, does anyone have a horde side mythic guild in want of a Ret?
rip
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 01 2015 09:45 GMT
#8166
A question. Does anyone PvP here and in what kind of state is it in? Has it improved?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-01 10:29:30
February 01 2015 10:27 GMT
#8167
On February 01 2015 18:45 GumBa wrote:
A question. Does anyone PvP here and in what kind of state is it in? Has it improved?


Pvp is in decent shape right now. There are alot of viable comps, though there are quite a few imbalances, as always.

Healer wise MW/RShaman/RDruid all have places in top comps, with each being better for certain comps. RDruids are by far the most versatile healers right now though.

HPals seem to have a place but they have a much higher skill requirement. Discs are just worst RDruids right now, and need some help.

Playstyle wise, the games are alot of fun. Health pools are large enough that people don't get randomly one shot, but you can still 100-0 people in a kidney bomb.

DPS shamans are kinda sad right now though :-(. Rated BG's are pretty well balanced/turn out pretty well. Speed set rogues with burst of speed is kinda silly though, and I hope they get nerfed. Shroud in RBG's allows for so many fun mindgames/plays.

All in all I'm enjoying pvp right now.

Also, playing with rank 1 players is alot of fun :-). Horde FTW.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
February 01 2015 10:37 GMT
#8168
Burst of speed rogs are fucking annoying in BG's. Rdruids are fucking annoying in arenas.

I mean its really really fucking hard to deal with a competent Rdruid, alot moreso than any other healer.
Useless wet fish.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6274 Posts
February 01 2015 10:55 GMT
#8169
Is there a website/ forum with PvP guides and stuff? I'm a casual PvPer at the moment but would like to optimise myself a bit.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
February 01 2015 12:32 GMT
#8170
Arena junkies is pretty much the only place to go but it's basically not moderated so there is a lot of shit posting everywhere.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 01 2015 14:46 GMT
#8171
Also isnt AJ dead these days
WriterXiao8~~
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
February 01 2015 15:35 GMT
#8172
Yes compared to what it used to be but afaik it's still the best/only resource for pvp
Moderator
yookstah
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia655 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-01 16:21:48
February 01 2015 16:21 GMT
#8173
Finally killed mythic margok after 150 wipes or something. FUCK. Managed to coin the staff like a lucky bastard

Hyped for BRF \o/
"I'm saying that you are all the time aggressive. I say to you choose situations to be aggressive and not aggressive. I'm talking it" - Cooller
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
February 01 2015 16:28 GMT
#8174
Gratz
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
February 01 2015 17:00 GMT
#8175
Grats
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 01 2015 21:29 GMT
#8176
anyone jumping straight into heroic brf or doing normal first
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
February 01 2015 21:41 GMT
#8177
Normal first, set bonuses alone are worth it
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 01 2015 22:17 GMT
#8178
Straight HC, normal on offdays.
WriterXiao8~~
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22373 Posts
February 01 2015 22:23 GMT
#8179
On February 02 2015 06:29 FinestHour wrote:
anyone jumping straight into heroic brf or doing normal first

Imo it entirely depends on your current progress. If your progressing well in mythic, 3/4 bosses dead, then I would say go strait Heroic.
If your struggling to complete heroic you start with normal.

Its a little less clear for the guilds in between but I would guess caution with going normal first is the faster road in the end.
It will help learn the encounters and as said, Set Bonuses are a big deal.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
February 01 2015 23:25 GMT
#8180
On February 02 2015 06:41 Teoita wrote:
Normal first, set bonuses alone are worth it

This has been my argument the whole time: gear up and get set bonuses first, but raid leader is like "nope, heroic first because I'm not a pussy."
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