• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:33
CEST 14:33
KST 21:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"4ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!32Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)102
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) 3kb/s downloading patch..... are we back to 1998? How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 2v2v2v2 Tournament [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Star Con San Diego 2026
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7244 users

[wow] Warlords of Draenor - Page 411

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 409 410 411 412 413 591 Next
Add yourself to the player list
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
February 03 2015 06:54 GMT
#8201
I'm not too optimistic about BRF considering my guild is full of no-shows and recruiting is very hard, because there are hundreds of guilds on my server who look "for the few last people".
A dota player and lol player walk into a bar. The dota player says: "lol sucks". Lol player couldn't deny. http://i.imgur.com/FpLeTf1.gif
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
February 03 2015 10:01 GMT
#8202
On February 03 2015 12:03 FinestHour wrote:
anyone have any idea what maxiumum melee dps in a mythic raid should be? trying to figure out who we needa cut for range


just check out on warcraft logs top guild raid comps

Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
February 03 2015 11:31 GMT
#8203
For anyone interested, this is a rough chart made by the creator of Simcraft showing how strong set bonuses appear to be
http://collision.heroicstrike.org/2015-01-31_15-35-58.png

I think this is going from Mythic Highmaul gear to BRF HC gear
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
TerranHwaiting
Profile Joined December 2014
Korea (North)179 Posts
February 03 2015 13:37 GMT
#8204
On February 03 2015 11:43 nikj wrote:
So it's the eve before BRF how far has everyone progressed?

Personally I'm at 673 ivl (should go up another point or 2 when I get my HM cache late tonight) but stuck on 1/7M as I still can't get into a mythic guild as a tank :S I might have to just give up and learn to dps (had a few offers to join guilds in a dps role but I just have very little interest in it)

Overall I'm fairly satisfied with how far I've gotten considering all of my progression was in Pugs. So what about everyone else? Did you achieve what you set out to? How far do you think you get week 1 in BRF? Full clear on Normal, Heroic?



Got 2/7 and 672 and left my Guild. Mythic is just no fun at all. A waste of time for me. I rather spend my time in other Games than waste weeks on the fucking same Boss hitting my head against a wall.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 03 2015 13:55 GMT
#8205
On February 03 2015 20:31 Teoita wrote:
For anyone interested, this is a rough chart made by the creator of Simcraft showing how strong set bonuses appear to be
http://collision.heroicstrike.org/2015-01-31_15-35-58.png

I think this is going from Mythic Highmaul gear to BRF HC gear


You heard about how fire 4 set bonus might not be as good as it reads. People on PTR playing it say you do not get the insta pyro on pul so you have to wield it in thus lining it up with trinkets and other CDs might not happen. Also, the bis list is so strange for it XD

Im still going to use Fire but it so strange how RRPM proc isn't used on pull but for everything else it is haha.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 14:07:32
February 03 2015 14:07 GMT
#8206
Even if it isn't as good as it appears it's perfectly fine as that chart shows xD

Besides, even with only 2set you can do ridicolous shit on pull: http://altered-time.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1137
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 14:14:44
February 03 2015 14:12 GMT
#8207
Yeah but i think it means stat weights are changed again. Like single target fire crit is the way to go, multi target you want mastery.

Good place to read is via Vykina forum on Method. I keep up to date there and he even responds to every question asked.

Also, omg that video hahahahahahaa. 42k ticks on combust holy shit
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 14:13:58
February 03 2015 14:13 GMT
#8208
Possibly, but i wouldn't single target fire anyway. There's no point doing that when you can enchant/gem mastery and change between arcane and fire

Altered-time is the entire theorycrafting community for mages, i'm pretty sure it's a better place than method's forums because of how many people work on stuff there
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 14:17:07
February 03 2015 14:16 GMT
#8209
Yeah i understand that, but who are the main players on that site making the numbers they produce standing against dummy to doing it in game? Vykina and Kuznam pretty sick mage logs xD
But of course i'll keep an eye on that too.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
February 03 2015 14:22 GMT
#8210
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/122484/latest
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/25326/latest
Are two of the main guys doing the theorycrafting as well as maintaining all the simcraft code for mages, so yeah, pretty good players
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 03 2015 14:34 GMT
#8211
On February 03 2015 23:22 Teoita wrote:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/122484/latest
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/25326/latest
Are two of the main guys doing the theorycrafting as well as maintaining all the simcraft code for mages, so yeah, pretty good players


https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/6#boss=1721&class=Mage
Hmm there names are Dutchmagoz? and Komma? They not on first page of Kargath xD Lexii is Vykina and Kuznam is also there.
Also Dutchmagoz isn't even best mage in his guild TT

So they are not that good in world logs.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
February 03 2015 14:38 GMT
#8212
Yeah WoL is the perfect tool to measure how good someone is at theorycrafting and figuring out a spec. Mythic Kargath especially.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 03 2015 14:40 GMT
#8213
No i just linked the start, every ranking they are not on first page :s
A guy i played with in AWOL is pretty high on tectus xD

But just saying that those people are good theory crafters clearly, but doesn't mean they are good at the game still. As likes of Kuznam and Vykina teach themselves and you can see their results are more than good
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 14:42:00
February 03 2015 14:41 GMT
#8214
By your logic i shouldn't be writing sc2 articles because im not in Code S. There's a huge difference between playing the game well, and being able to give good advice backed by solid proof.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 15:00:37
February 03 2015 14:46 GMT
#8215
Yeah which is what i wrote, you know the game in and out. I know football but i still can't play it like the best XD
They are good simmers and theory crafters but clearly cant put it into practice then if they are no where near anything on logs and also being beaten by guildys lol.

You know how to play SC2 but you are not the best doing it, but you know what you should have done. Thus you can write good guides and articles on the subject.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
February 03 2015 14:59 GMT
#8216
On February 03 2015 23:46 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah which is what i wrote, you know the game in and out. I know football but i still can't play it like the best XD
They are good simmers and theory crafters but clearly cant put it into practice then if they are no where near anything on logs and also being beaten by guildys lol.

You know how to play SC2 but you are not the best doing it, but you know what you should of done. Thus you can write good guides and articles on the subject.


oh that last statement is so so off !
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 03 2015 15:01 GMT
#8217
Ok i'll rephrase to he can write good Protoss articles because he knows how to all in correctly..on paper at least :3
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 15:04:04
February 03 2015 15:03 GMT
#8218
I actually used to play pretty legit before WoD stole my soul and killed my passion. Except in PvZ. Or on shitty maps.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
February 03 2015 15:20 GMT
#8219
I read contradictory stuff in warrior forums on mmo about brf

some threads say fury with 4 p is gonna pew pew
some others say the set bonus is shit (with evidences backing their claim)

i dont know who to trust x_x
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
February 03 2015 15:24 GMT
#8220
I know fuck all about warriors, but you could try simming your own character in current gear and then with 4set and see how much more dps it should be under ideal conditions
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Prev 1 409 410 411 412 413 591 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Weekly
11:00
WardiTV Mondays #97
IntoTheiNu 1521
WardiTV817
Ryung 127
Rex124
CranKy Ducklings56
Zoun (SOOP)12
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko410
Ryung 127
Rex 124
ProTech74
SHIN 23
Zoun (SOOP) 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 8655
Bisu 1516
Shuttle 1092
actioN 1020
Jaedong 650
BeSt 526
firebathero 505
Light 424
Mini 356
EffOrt 350
[ Show more ]
PianO 317
Stork 204
Leta 143
ZerO 130
JulyZerg 119
Snow 116
Hyun 112
Pusan 87
Mind 70
hero 67
sorry 66
JYJ 60
ggaemo 54
soO 31
Sharp 31
Free 30
Killer 29
Sacsri 28
sSak 23
Hm[arnc] 21
yabsab 19
Barracks 17
Sexy 17
Terrorterran 11
Shine 10
Icarus 7
zelot 5
Rain 1
Dota 2
Dendi833
Counter-Strike
byalli688
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King116
Other Games
singsing1812
B2W.Neo384
crisheroes330
hiko276
Pyrionflax216
Fuzer 205
XaKoH 198
Liquid`LucifroN147
ZerO(Twitch)15
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1042
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH282
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV516
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
3h 27m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 27m
INu's Battles
22h 27m
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
1d 11h
The PondCast
1d 21h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 22h
Patches Events
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Escore
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Acropolis #5 - TRS
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.