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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 07 2015 23:32 GMT
#7641
At this point i'm pretending those raids simply never happened
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 23:35:26
January 07 2015 23:33 GMT
#7642
Cleaned heroic tonight, got 35K as fire on the last boss, love that last combustion in the remnants god damn!
Too bad that the more gear I get, the less mastery I have, I might give frost a go again I suppose, I'm stacking more and more multistrike with heroic and mythic items >.<

Edit : just saw WClogs counted out kill as a wipe, did this ever happen to anybody? :o https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LMKVAtfP8dYF2QN9/#fight=14
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 23:36:52
January 07 2015 23:35 GMT
#7643
Yeah tonight i went from having pretty balanced secondaries to 1.3k multi 1k haste and 300 everything else..there goes my hope of respeccing before BRF
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 08 2015 00:34 GMT
#7644
Well, I faction changed my main Hunter for PvP purpose ( and to follow my rDruid friend I guess ) but that left me with no fixed pve roster. Kinda out of motivation to find one Ally side now.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 08 2015 11:24 GMT
#7645
We're at the point where most Heroic Imp pugs require the AotC achievement and you can't get that achievement without pugging him.

Vicious...fucking...cycle.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 08 2015 15:54 GMT
#7646
On January 08 2015 20:24 deth2munkies wrote:
We're at the point where most Heroic Imp pugs require the AotC achievement and you can't get that achievement without pugging him.

Vicious...fucking...cycle.

fake achiever
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
January 08 2015 16:51 GMT
#7647
Most proper pugs check armory now, so that doesn't help much.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
January 08 2015 17:03 GMT
#7648
to be fair, aotc groups have way higher success than non aotc groups.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 17:22:16
January 08 2015 17:21 GMT
#7649
On January 09 2015 02:03 caelym wrote:
to be fair, aotc groups have way higher success than non aotc groups.


I actually sneaked into an AotC group on the back of the fact that I pugged with the raid leader last week. Never got past the first transition without losing people.

Did it last night in a non AotC group, failed the 2nd transition a couple times, but had to wait 30 minutes to get healers back after we booted one for stepping on mines.

Anecdotal, but probably accurate: people can get carried in large heroic groups and they can cheese the fight with a shitload of healers. AotC means little.

The main issue is getting into a non-AotC group as a dps or tank, they seem to always only need healers.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 08 2015 17:23 GMT
#7650
On Average AOTC groups and groups with higher iLevel will perform higher and better then non AOTC groups or lower iLevel groups. Yes there are exceptions and those who post on the TL forums are most likely all exceptions, the average player however is dumb as fuck and AOTC and higher ilevel atleast guarentees a little bit.
WriterXiao8~~
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 21:33:26
January 08 2015 21:33 GMT
#7651
I took a break for a few weeks and wasn't so lucky on gear before that, came back and i went from like fighting for top 1/3'rd of the DPS to dead last on every fight lol

at least when the lowest DPS on the meter 15 seconds into butcher is 30k everything is really easy; we oneshot everything on heroic except for a silly wipe on mar'gok with brand new guild. I probably can't go mythic progression in i652 though and lacking skill too, failed roll on 3-4 items and all 5 of my bonus rolls returned gold :D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
January 08 2015 22:30 GMT
#7652
On January 09 2015 06:33 Cyro wrote:
I took a break for a few weeks and wasn't so lucky on gear before that, came back and i went from like fighting for top 1/3'rd of the DPS to dead last on every fight lol

at least when the lowest DPS on the meter 15 seconds into butcher is 30k everything is really easy; we oneshot everything on heroic except for a silly wipe on mar'gok with brand new guild. I probably can't go mythic progression in i652 though and lacking skill too, failed roll on 3-4 items and all 5 of my bonus rolls returned gold :D


The gear scaling is totally ridiculous, a few ilvl can make a world of difference. The ring upgrade is sick too, I struggle to keep ahead of a stupid balance drood that sucks ass just because he got a few more ilvl than me and the ring, while he used to be trailing far behind at equal gear.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 08 2015 23:42 GMT
#7653
Yeah, they claimed that another stat squish won't be needed at the end of this expansion but by the looks of things, it's very possible actually.

At this point i wonder wether they should just do a level squish and go back to lvl 70max or something.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 23:53:06
January 08 2015 23:49 GMT
#7654
On January 09 2015 08:42 Teoita wrote:
Yeah, they claimed that another stat squish won't be needed at the end of this expansion but by the looks of things, it's very possible actually.

At this point i wonder wether they should just do a level squish and go back to lvl 70max or something.


Well they could probably free up some Ilvl tiers if they removed the Ilvl tiers at 60/70/80/85/90 but they are essentially giving 2 tiers a raid (With LFR / Normal matching the heroic / mythic of the previous raid most likely) and there is probably going to be at least 2 more raids not including BRF. A squish is pretty much required going forward.

What I'm worried about is that I'm reaching the point where I can flat out spam heal for 5-6 minutes none stop and only just run out of mana. I'm only going to be getting more and more spirit as the expansion goes on so I kinda have to wonder if i'll end up in a BC / WOTLK situation where I can just afk spam my aoe heals and not think.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
January 09 2015 00:08 GMT
#7655
On January 09 2015 08:49 Drazerk wrote:
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On January 09 2015 08:42 Teoita wrote:
Yeah, they claimed that another stat squish won't be needed at the end of this expansion but by the looks of things, it's very possible actually.

At this point i wonder wether they should just do a level squish and go back to lvl 70max or something.


Well they could probably free up some Ilvl tiers if they removed the Ilvl tiers at 60/70/80/85/90 but they are essentially giving 2 tiers a raid (With LFR / Normal matching the heroic / mythic of the previous raid most likely) and there is probably going to be at least 2 more raids not including BRF. A squish is pretty much required going forward.

What I'm worried about is that I'm reaching the point where I can flat out spam heal for 5-6 minutes none stop and only just run out of mana. I'm only going to be getting more and more spirit as the expansion goes on so I kinda have to wonder if i'll end up in a BC / WOTLK situation where I can just afk spam my aoe heals and not think.


You'll be just like a dps. Spam buttons all day and not worry about any kind of resource management.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 09 2015 00:30 GMT
#7656
I went up about 20-30 iLevel and my dps has increased by like 10k, scaling is going to be out of control probably.
WriterXiao8~~
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 09 2015 00:36 GMT
#7657
On January 09 2015 09:30 Kipsate wrote:
I went up about 20-30 iLevel and my dps has increased by like 10k, scaling is going to be out of control probably.

Hopefully we just get a flat 50% nerf on all abilities
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21976 Posts
January 09 2015 00:46 GMT
#7658
And all these issues were already brought to Blizzards attention during Beta but they kept saying that it was fine and no new squish would be needed for a while.

MoP hc dungeon > hc Sha of Fear was a 46 ilvl jump.
WoD hc dungeon > M Blackhand is 65

Its only going to get worse because item level doesn't scale linearly.
Cant afford to have jumps this big when your scaling through 4 difficulty sections. More then 4 because of the inflation between Highmaul and Blackrock Foundry.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 09 2015 00:51 GMT
#7659
The differences in iLevel between difficulties is probably too large, 15 ilevel from Heroic to Mythic is perhaps too much.
WriterXiao8~~
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 01:09:15
January 09 2015 01:09 GMT
#7660
I think gear is just improving too quick. From heroic dungeons to mythic tier, there's 60 ilvl, that's pretty damn big.
Not sure if my memory is incorrect, but I remember gear progressing around 100 ilvl during an entire expansion before.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
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