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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 07 2016 13:24 GMT
#1701
Moon still not good enough . But holy shit 120 looks strong.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
January 07 2016 18:13 GMT
#1702
I gotta see this D:

and lets face it , Moon needs some time to get back into shape , but I have no doubt in my mind the 5th race as we know him will be back.....if there are enough tournaments
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4167 Posts
January 07 2016 19:23 GMT
#1703
Did any of you guys see G2 Remind vs Romantic?

I am in awe how something that sounds so stupid actually worked.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 07 2016 19:31 GMT
#1704
On January 08 2016 04:23 lestye wrote:
Did any of you guys see G2 Remind vs Romantic?

I am in awe how something that sounds so stupid actually worked.


Didn't see it, but I heard it was weird. Gonna have to watch the vod.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-07 23:11:24
January 07 2016 23:11 GMT
#1705
On January 08 2016 04:23 lestye wrote:
Did any of you guys see G2 Remind vs Romantic?

I am in awe how something that sounds so stupid actually worked.


I dont understand why nightelves not just straight mass giants in such a situation. They can have siege, he had all the tech needed for it and he had 2 gold mines to support it. Remind actually saw at least 5 (or was it 6?) workshops and after first tank is out, why not build giants? Or even glaves...

I know alot of people hate the siege engine, as it creates plain boring games, turtle human till engines are there, kill all enemy buildings. And I think the siege engine could be nerfed with the upcoming 2016 patch (if not, TH, Yumi and Infi had way to much influence in the creation of the patch). But I feel like Remind didnt even try to find a way to deal with the turtle human and the engines.

And game 3 was a joke in the other direction... tinker first???
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4167 Posts
January 07 2016 23:33 GMT
#1706
I think the final tally was 8 workshops.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 09 2016 11:55 GMT
#1707
Romantic took forever to GG there. Easy game for Moon, loved that he marched his buildings over to Romantic's base.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 09 2016 12:25 GMT
#1708
Wow, that third map. Fastest GG in a while.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4167 Posts
January 09 2016 12:37 GMT
#1709
Yeah, that third map made up for that silly long 1st game.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
hiromi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
36 Posts
January 09 2016 14:02 GMT
#1710
On January 08 2016 08:11 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2016 04:23 lestye wrote:
Did any of you guys see G2 Remind vs Romantic?

I am in awe how something that sounds so stupid actually worked.


I dont understand why nightelves not just straight mass giants in such a situation. They can have siege, he had all the tech needed for it and he had 2 gold mines to support it. Remind actually saw at least 5 (or was it 6?) workshops and after first tank is out, why not build giants? Or even glaves...

I know alot of people hate the siege engine, as it creates plain boring games, turtle human till engines are there, kill all enemy buildings. And I think the siege engine could be nerfed with the upcoming 2016 patch (if not, TH, Yumi and Infi had way to much influence in the creation of the patch). But I feel like Remind didnt even try to find a way to deal with the turtle human and the engines.

And game 3 was a joke in the other direction... tinker first???


Mgs are worse than ancient of wars/bears, which do normal damage. Bears have utility in healing and becoming useful for ground battles if human tries to fight head on. Glaive throwers will get absolutely shredded by only a few gryphons.

Ne's have been fighting this strat for more than 8 years, if mg/glaive throwers were even the least bit effective as a counter, you would see them from time to time.
RogerShah
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands131 Posts
January 10 2016 11:28 GMT
#1711
Just released: Armies of Azeroth: First Impressions and Gameplay (with English commentary)



Looks really nice.

Nice to see wc3 still alive and kicking on Twitch as well. Even higher viewership than HOTS!
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 10 2016 11:35 GMT
#1712
Why play some mod when I can play the original instead?

I liked FoCuS' strategy but the execution just wasn't good. Deserved 0:2 loss there.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 12:41:49
January 10 2016 12:26 GMT
#1713
On January 10 2016 20:35 Lucumo wrote:
Why play some mod when I can play the original instead?


To let the coddled new generation that demands muh prettier graphics, muh actual "balance", muh improved controls, accessibility, UI etc. be able to enjoy the wc3 experience, "newly improved" of course! otherwise they cannot enjoy it!

You expect them to download the old game and immediately know how to play it or something? They might vomit and faint upon seeing those dated graphics you know?

not to mention all those "elitists" on their forums, just want to feedback on old wc3 with their utterly inadequate newbie knowledge and those elites simply chastise them without actually responding to their inane presumptious feedback! How can they ever enjoy the old game?
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States984 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 13:19:31
January 10 2016 13:15 GMT
#1714


the game in question for those lost


On January 08 2016 08:11 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2016 04:23 lestye wrote:
Did any of you guys see G2 Remind vs Romantic?

I am in awe how something that sounds so stupid actually worked.


I dont understand why nightelves not just straight mass giants in such a situation. They can have siege, he had all the tech needed for it and he had 2 gold mines to support it. Remind actually saw at least 5 (or was it 6?) workshops and after first tank is out, why not build giants? Or even glaves...

I know alot of people hate the siege engine, as it creates plain boring games, turtle human till engines are there, kill all enemy buildings. And I think the siege engine could be nerfed with the upcoming 2016 patch (if not, TH, Yumi and Infi had way to much influence in the creation of the patch). But I feel like Remind didnt even try to find a way to deal with the turtle human and the engines.

And game 3 was a joke in the other direction... tinker first???


MGs are a worse from a cost efficiency standpoint. a few DoTT for ff and bears will be a better defense. Glaives would have been a bad choice vs panda.

Remind played the game out really poorly combined with some questionable decisions, the DH 2nd was probably the nail in the coffin. Romantic probably knew he won the game right there when he saw it as his panda staffed out and proceeded to go for the tanks.


I don't think tanks need a nerf, maybe make Chim's bile attack work versus them or something along those lines. Other races would be able to play much more abusive without the threat of tanks being a possibility.

I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 15:56:50
January 10 2016 15:52 GMT
#1715
MG also have a really high supply cost, iirc 7. Build 3+ of them, and suddenly you face the choice of going high upkeep (assuming a typical ne vs hu, were both have secured at least one expansion), while also having an army that deals very little damage against a regular army; and a good enemy will be able to mostly ignore them despite the taunt, AoWs however do not cost any supply.
On January 10 2016 20:28 RogerShah wrote:
Just released: Armies of Azeroth: First Impressions and Gameplay (with English commentary)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rr1GpV2rCg

Looks really nice.

Nice to see wc3 still alive and kicking on Twitch as well. Even higher viewership than HOTS!

Does the "just realeased" part refer to the video or the actual mod? The apparent homepage still says "coming jan 30 2016".
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-12 05:02:53
January 12 2016 04:50 GMT
#1716
On January 10 2016 21:26 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 20:35 Lucumo wrote:
Why play some mod when I can play the original instead?


To let the coddled new generation that demands muh prettier graphics, muh actual "balance", muh improved controls, accessibility, UI etc. be able to enjoy the wc3 experience, "newly improved" of course! otherwise they cannot enjoy it!

You expect them to download the old game and immediately know how to play it or something? They might vomit and faint upon seeing those dated graphics you know?

not to mention all those "elitists" on their forums, just want to feedback on old wc3 with their utterly inadequate newbie knowledge and those elites simply chastise them without actually responding to their inane presumptious feedback! How can they ever enjoy the old game?


It's easy to be snarky about the "new generation" but a well done remake of Wc3 would have a heap of advantages over the old game that aren't related to graphics and UI. Ditching old Bnet, better hacking protection and access to the higher playerbase of SC2 are all of huge benefit. Yes WC3Arena already does some of those things but it's really only an option for those living in EU.

I also don't agree with mocking upgraded graphics and UI, as if those are things we shouldn't want to experience. Those are huge things in terms of recruiting new players and providing a better experience for veterans. They shouldn't be scoffed at. AoA needs to be true to the spirit of the original game, be extremely cautious about balance changes and of course run well in terms of performance but if those conditions are met I don't see any reason for fans of the game to not be excited.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
January 13 2016 11:41 GMT
#1717
During WCA, we had the chance to sit down with the most decorated Warcraft player in the history of this game. Jang "Moon" Jae Ho has won more than 450.000$ prizemoney throughout his magnificent career and influenced the scene like no player before and after him.
After his two year duty in the Korean Army, he's finally back to claim the Frozen Throne again. How's his life now, what are his plans for the future and who are the most promising new talents in the rejuvenated scene today?
The answers to this questions and much more in our nine minute interview with Moon!

Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
January 13 2016 13:41 GMT
#1718
On January 13 2016 20:41 B2W.Neo wrote:
During WCA, we had the chance to sit down with the most decorated Warcraft player in the history of this game. Jang "Moon" Jae Ho has won more than 450.000$ prizemoney throughout his magnificent career and influenced the scene like no player before and after him.
After his two year duty in the Korean Army, he's finally back to claim the Frozen Throne again. How's his life now, what are his plans for the future and who are the most promising new talents in the rejuvenated scene today?
The answers to this questions and much more in our nine minute interview with Moon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3NO1nfneCM


"Who is the best nightelf in the world ?"

Moon: "ME"

Like a fucking boss !!!!!!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 13 2016 14:49 GMT
#1719
There is nobody I'd rather have seen an interview with, thanks so much .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10081 Posts
January 13 2016 15:07 GMT
#1720
cant wait to get home and watch the interview, thx!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
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