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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
December 14 2016 11:40 GMT
#2361
What I don't understand is that this really seems poorly thought out. Or not at all.

If the patch is indeed close, then it would make far more sense to just include those changes in the real patch. Bug fixes and improvements almost always come with gameplay changes, so why not?

Beyond that, why would you actually go ahead and release this patch alone and nothing else? You've gotta know it's not going to be taken very well.
I like words.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-14 23:08:22
December 14 2016 23:08 GMT
#2362
GCS in ~11 hours.

Featuring TH, Infi, Fly, ZDR, 120, Focus, WORLD CHAMPION LYN, WFZ, Check, Colorful, and Foggy!

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/warcraft/Golden_Championship_Series/2016/Fall
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
December 15 2016 11:34 GMT
#2363
Longwalk played some really beautiful games! Th000 , who is a master in Ne vs Hu himself, must have really enjoyed the match against him! a potm using starfall in Ne vs Hu, that makes me fall in love with this player instantly!
Wca delivered once again great games!
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-20 21:49:19
December 19 2016 22:17 GMT
#2364
So me and my friend from Twitch wanted to do something to maybe get the names of the Korean streamers more out there to the foreign fans and a first thing on our to-do list is to post a series of interviews with them from a popular Korean forum war3.kr. I hope you enjoy :D

The first player mentioned is gonna be A1.Sok (also known as Emalfan), a Human player. He streams a lot and is very active and talkative on his stream, even thought it's mostly in Korean. There is a very active community around his chat with many foreigners and English speaking Koreans, so you wouldn't be bored :D Some of his achevements include winning several Gera Cups and a 2016 Nations Championship.

You can find more info here:
wiki.teamliquid.net [Liquipedia page]
www.esportsearnings.com [eSports Earnings page]

You'll find his stream here -> https://www.twitch.tv/jhw3767 Stream usually starts around 11 AM ~ 1 PM EST (5PM ~ 7PM CET, 1~3 AM KST) but is subject to change

The interview is from July 2016. I am not the translator of this interview but i do have both his, Sok's and the war3.kr's consent to post this.

Enjoy!

+ Show Spoiler +
content of the interview is taken from War3.kr, a Korean Warcraft Community website run by Trueshot. Reproduced and republished with permission from Trueshot. All rights reserved by the owner.

A1. Sok, “The Cancer King”

- When did you first began playing Warcraft III?
▲ I started playing team games, either 2 vs 2 or 3 vs 3, alone around 2007 and I started watching Wolmae [Comment: a Korean UD streamer who is famous for his unorthodox stream and playstyle], joined Crew clan and officially started playing 1vs 1.

- What does “Sok” mean?
▲ When I first started playing Warcraft III, I lived in Sokcho. [Comment: a city in Korea] Now I live in Uijeongbu, Seoul.
At the time, I didn’t know how to create a cool sounding ID, so I just used “Sok” from Sokcho.

- We want to know why you chose Human as your main race.
▲ I first started playing 1 vs 1 as a NE. When I first started playing 1 vs 1, it was so freaking difficult.
So I had many concerns about changing the race, but I had a guy “upturn” in the same clan. He is more known as eMal.
I was so amazed at him playing Human, so that was when I started playing Human seriously.
Later, when I played in other foreign leagues, I participated using the “emalfan” ID.
(p.s., these days eMaL has a kid so he doesn’t have time to play games anymore.)

- Your way of speaking is very particular. Is this a dialect or something you just do?
▲ Both my parents are from Gyeongsang Province. Normally when I speak I can use the normal standard language fine but when I speak to my parents or stream Warcraft III, my awkward dialect comes out. LOL

- Is there a reason why you prefer a wine glass?
▲ I think it makes me a classy person.
(It was just sitting there at my house for couple of years, and I found it. I used it on stream to be more classy and up-scale. If sorceress was actually alive, she would have fell for it.)

- Does it taste better if you drink coke out of a wine glass?
▲ It’s pretty awesome.

- During your stream, why did you start doing handstands?
▲ Because it is my favorite move.

- When do you think you look the best?
▲ When I go to the bathroom and look into the mirror

- How long are you planning on dating “Sorceress” [Comment: whenever viewers ask about whether Sok is seeing someone he tells them his gf is sorceress]?
▲ Well.. I don’t know LOL maybe until I get a real girlfriend?^^ 2D is love.

- Is there a reason why you wear military-like clothing? And we want to know what role you had in military

▲ When I was discharged, I brought a digital camo T-shirt from military. I wash them and wear them often.
The quality is good so it’s really cool during the summer. I highly recommend them.
I was a driver during military years. I had the easiest time of my life^.^

- What other hobbies do you have besides gaming?
▲ Currently, my entire life is around gaming so my hobbies are gaming.
Last year, I used to run around the sports area near my home and ran 3km per day. But this year, I am lazy so I don’t do it anymore.
Instead, I just do simple handstand exercises.

- Many people say you’ve improved tremendously this year, what do you think has improved?
▲ I do think I’ve improved tremendously compared to before I joined the military. My macro skills have improved greatly.
My micro still sucks tho.

- Compared to other players, you seem to number your buildings separately, how do you assign numbers to your units and buildings?
▲ As far as I am concerned, other players tend to group all buildings into one number but I do them all separately.
For example, when I play against Orc or NE, I assign 5 to Barracks and if I build Sanctum, it goes 5 and 6 Sanctum and 7 to Workshop.
Against UD, I assign 5 for Barracks and Sanctum and 6 to Workshop.
And when I have to use Barracks, Sanctum and Gryphon Aviary I change around every time so I sometimes get confused LOL
It’s difficult to change habits
I’d love to assign everything into one place, but it doesn’t quite feel right so I just do it as I used it.

- Is there a reason why you often went tower rush with Fire Lord against Orc?
▲ There was a time when I played versus Orc a lot.
I was bit bored and I’ve used Fire lord tower rush to end the game fast.
And when we all played Battle.net, I’ve used Fire lord tower rush to level up quicker but I lost more games than won LOL.

- Why do you prefer Spellbreakers and Mountain king as a second hero? What are the benefits?
▲ I think this is the most common hero against Orc.
I think it’s because it provides strong and quick firepower and because it is immune to magic.
Mountain king thunder bolt and feedback damage from Spell breaker allows you to insta kill heroes like coil and nova for UD or Hex windwalk and crits for Orc.

- On the finals of PGL2016 Summer, Moon vs TH000 match, TH000 used magical+ mortar + Tinker as a second hero, what do you think about the combo?
▲ I’ve used it couple of times on ladder but there are pros and cons.
The pros include fighting big battles with 80 food if everything went according to plan.
Because bears attacking goblins from pocket factory made Spellbreakers safer and it was easier to have units form a battle position.
On the flipside if you get Tinker and are left without towers, dryad rush can just eat your base alive.

- What are the pros and cons of Human race?
▲ Pros: Tower, Farm hack (building farms at locations for vision), Easier to macro, TANKS, and three heroes (Archmage, MK, Paladin)
Cons: lot of matches end while you try to expo

- What are the things you must focus when you play Human?
▲ Let’s say when you play after getting expo, you have to multitask while you use your units to engage and build towers at the same time.
I have difficulties doing this as well. My Archmage dies too frequently, while I control the main units.
Romantic used to this all the time and I felt brotherly love when he did this LOL.

- You use quite a different combination of heroes, is there a pointer as to how not to mess up?
▲ I think you have to play more games.
I used to mess up a lot when I did MK as first hero and AM as second.
I still mess up MK first and BeM and Paladin but it’s better if I do it more.
You’d have to play a lot
I think same applies to other players.

- Who do you think is the best HU player? What is his strength?
▲ I have difficulties choosing between Infi and Th000 and before I thought they played more or less the same but their play style changed entirely.
It’s amazing to see these two players win against top players with such a different playing style.
But if I must choose one, I will choose Infi.
The reason is because Th000 has this unique style which makes it difficult for other HUs to follow but Infi wins with a “wannabe” style which all Humans want to follow. I think Infi is more of a role model for other players.

- Who do you think is the best players for China and Korea?
▲ Korea : Reprisal (H), Lyn (O), Lawliet (NE), Lucifer (U)
China: Infi (H), Fly100% (O), Life (NE), 120 (U)

- Who’s your most difficult matchup against and why?
▲ Many players are hard to win against but I have most difficulties with Lawliet from Korea and Life from China.
This doesn’t mean other players are easy to play against.
The reason is because they know I don’t know much about NE so they use many different strategies and I lose too easy or often get out-microed.

- Who is the most memorable Chinese Warcraft III player?
▲ I am not really good friends with many players but I remember Romantic the most.
When I first arrived in China and went to the hotel, the first Chinese player I saw was Romantic and he said hi to me first.
Hi eMalfan, I am Romantic, Nice to meet you.

- What was your memorable loss?
▲ Hmm… I had so many disappointing loses so I don’t remember too much but I had a time when I went to quarterfinals for Zotac cup 5 times in a row but lost to Xixi all 5 times.
One of the game I had was in Echo Isle. I had level 6 for a second Alchemist and I thought I won but I lost even with many transmutes. I felt unfair/mad. With such anger, I became strong and joined the military.

- What was your most memorable match?
▲ I don’t remember top of my head the exact date, but it was a Zotac cup match versus OrcWorker before I went to military
This is the first game you see when you search 'emalfan' on YouTube and I re-watched this match in the military when I was bored LOL

- What was your most memorable “close win”?
▲ Other than the match against OrcWorker, in a HiNice cup in 2012 against Buzz.Lich in Amazonia, I lost all my heroes but won with mass tanks.
Buzz.Lich didn’t have main base and used his units and workers to create “a ring of peace” in his expo, I remember not having any heroes.
So I couldn’t kill the expo goldmine with tanks but I had one zeppelin and used it to destroy the “ring of peace” and finally was able to win.

- What is your easiest and most difficult matchup?
▲ I think it’s bit difficult to say.
If I play against people who is not as good, any match-up is fine, but if I play against someone on a same level or higher, every match up is difficult.
But if I speak in terms of win rate, my easiest matchup is versus Orc and most difficult matchup is against Lawliet.

- You show strength versus Orc match-up. Do you have a “know-how”?
▲ I have to say, the pattern and the build is easier compared to other matchups.
HU can use various movements and strategies against Orc but Orc is very restricted/limited versus HU so I think that is why.

- What is your most difficult match up and why?
▲ NE
Because I don’t know NE too well so I can’t predict their psychology, but as I said before, NE has many strats available but HU has limited strats.
I have difficulties playing UD but that’s because I have poor micro LOL

- What standard do you use in deciding whether a map is favorable or not?
▲ Because I am a HU user, my priorities are the proximity of an expo and the difficulties of creeping.
Also another concern is on how close the distance between the opponent’s main and my expo.

- What do you think are good maps for HU and bad maps for HU?
▲ IMO, I prefer Secret Valley, Amazonia, and Terenas Stand.
I want to avoid AI, AI, AI. (*Ancient Isle)

- What distinguishes a noob/mediocre/amateur/ and pro? We want to know how you were able to step up.
▲ I think experience. And a bit of talent?
When I watch Infi, Th000 or Yumiko play, I think “I have a long way to go”… LOL Can someone tell me what the difference is?

- How long do you practice per day?
▲ I am a bit lazy so I don’t have a specific time frame
I normally stream while I play so it’s 3-9 hours? It’s pretty flexible

- How much do you make while playing Warcraft III per month? [Comment: this question was asked before Sok landed a contract with Twitch]
▲ It varies per month.
When I played lot of ads, I won couple of cups so I made around $500 but these days I don’t play ads and didn’t win much so…

- Till when do you plan to play Warcraft III?
▲ Well.. 'It’s kinda like how long do you plan to go out with Sorceress ' Hmm…
I could still play even when I start a relationship with someone

I am not an organized person so I don’t have a specific date.

- What’s your goal as a Warcraft III player?
▲ Of course, my goal is to win a big tournament . But I feel limitation.
But my goal is to win a big tournament and this goal won’t change as long as I play Warcraft III.

- You could say you have relatively a lot of viewers, do you have any concerns when you stream?

▲ If I overlap with other Warcraft III players, the viewers are less but otherwise, it is a lot.
I think other players feel the same LOL
I am not computer savvy so I don’t decorate screen or such. I think that is why Lawliet is amazing… the effort he puts.

- Do you have anything you’d like to say to your fans?
▲ I used to be the youngest and used to be the “CUTE ONE” but now the youngest Chemiko came along so I will try my best not to lose my position as a “CUTE ONE”
I will stream consistently and will improve my skills and will try my best to come up with more awesome matches.


Edit: Updated some missing content

Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
December 20 2016 09:10 GMT
#2365
Great work! Unfortunately I wont have much time to check it out over the next weeks.
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
December 22 2016 22:48 GMT
#2366
What's Next for WarCraft 3
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
December 23 2016 07:33 GMT
#2367
As of right now we're not looking to make any gameplay changes.


Well, that's disappointing. They are announcing 1.27c in mid-January (in Blizzardspeak: late February). At this rate, we can expect a gameplay patch for next BlizzCon.
I like words.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
December 23 2016 10:24 GMT
#2368
Well im glad the classic games team is actually more active on the forums now , seems like they read my rant last week XD

However I get the feeling that new maps and balance changes aren't happening anytime soon , not even in 1.27c , it seems like they are focusing more on fixing bugs , I have a theory on why they are doing that , but its a long shot.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
December 23 2016 13:18 GMT
#2369
Big day for foggy in GCS right now. Looking good for him to at least make it to the lb final.
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
December 23 2016 20:17 GMT
#2370
Anyone know any way to reach out to blizz about wc3? Are they active/responsive on social media channels? I was an active mapper and won their mapmaking contests a few times, and my map ancient isles became a standard tournament map for the last 10 years. I'd just like to give them all my stuff to see if they can use it.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
December 23 2016 23:00 GMT
#2371
On December 24 2016 05:17 ahw wrote:
Anyone know any way to reach out to blizz about wc3? Are they active/responsive on social media channels? I was an active mapper and won their mapmaking contests a few times, and my map ancient isles became a standard tournament map for the last 10 years. I'd just like to give them all my stuff to see if they can use it.


Whoa, nice dude!

I reckon you can use the BNet forums? It looks like they are starting to interact more. But it's probably hit or miss whether they actually notice you. The guys over at B2W frequently read this thread; maybe they could help you out, too.
I like words.
mrwhite-
Profile Joined March 2016
55 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-24 12:19:47
December 24 2016 11:00 GMT
#2372
ahw - how many maps are we talking about? We might be able to help you. Send me a PM.
Follow me on Twitter for relevant Warcraft 3 news: http://www.twitter.com/d4rkwc3
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
December 24 2016 11:11 GMT
#2373
yeah the classic games forums , they are really become more active now.

AND NICE MAP MAN ! would love to play more of your creations.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 24 2016 12:16 GMT
#2374
On December 23 2016 19:24 Tchado wrote:
Well im glad the classic games team is actually more active on the forums now , seems like they read my rant last week XD

However I get the feeling that new maps and balance changes aren't happening anytime soon , not even in 1.27c , it seems like they are focusing more on fixing bugs , I have a theory on why they are doing that , but its a long shot.


My dream is:
Now they fix out all bugs they run into while doing a bigger development.
The bigger development is to rerelease Warcraft III on Bnet launcher and the multiplayer is based on the netease client with servers arround the globe.

While new maps would be cool, I think that should be done by the community. Netease and WCA need to just rotate 1 or 2 maps in and out. There are plenty of great melee maps to find online.
And for the balancing, its fine. Yes, its not perfectly balanced. But the current balance is enough to make the game great, to be played for 10 years. I have the feeling that if they patch something (siege engines, crit strike, warden are things that have been rumored) they go over the top and we are suddenly SC II with endless balance and design patches.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4280 Posts
December 24 2016 19:22 GMT
#2375
On December 24 2016 05:17 ahw wrote:
Anyone know any way to reach out to blizz about wc3? Are they active/responsive on social media channels? I was an active mapper and won their mapmaking contests a few times, and my map ancient isles became a standard tournament map for the last 10 years. I'd just like to give them all my stuff to see if they can use it.

You're "TehScourge." ?

Anyway, your best bet is to just post on the classic forums. They dont really communicate on social media or whatever.

On December 23 2016 16:33 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
As of right now we're not looking to make any gameplay changes.


Well, that's disappointing. They are announcing 1.27c in mid-January (in Blizzardspeak: late February). At this rate, we can expect a gameplay patch for next BlizzCon.

That's a bit presumptuous. I don't think we should expect anything for Blizzcon, maybe fantasizing about it. :-P


"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
December 29 2016 08:50 GMT
#2376
GCS playoffs starting today. Unfortunately, the b2w stream is still very laggy.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
December 29 2016 12:47 GMT
#2377
The stream is pretty unwatchable at the moment, right in time for 120 vs. Foggy. :/
I like words.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
December 29 2016 13:02 GMT
#2378
On December 29 2016 21:47 Spaylz wrote:
The stream is pretty unwatchable at the moment, right in time for 120 vs. Foggy. :/

Yeah, but the chinese one on http://www.douyu.com/b2wcn is running fine for me now.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
December 29 2016 13:24 GMT
#2379
On December 29 2016 22:02 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 21:47 Spaylz wrote:
The stream is pretty unwatchable at the moment, right in time for 120 vs. Foggy. :/

Yeah, but the chinese one on http://www.douyu.com/b2wcn is running fine for me now.


Yeah, I finished the bo3 on douyu too. Game 3 was absolutely amazing. All those close calls, crazy. Real shame for Foggy. He has tons of potential; dude can play.
I like words.
mrwhite-
Profile Joined March 2016
55 Posts
December 30 2016 17:36 GMT
#2380
Foggy improved tenfolds. I would never imagine him taking a game of 120, even on maps that would give him an advantage. As @Spaylz said, game 3 was in Foggys grasp - but unfortunately not enough.
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