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Fazers
736 Posts
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Spazer
Canada8033 Posts
On November 30 2015 07:11 Fazers wrote: By skill (active/leader) fodder, is that what S+1 does? I see that often during combat. Also how do I improve yellow +1 stat attributes? Nope. The S+1 in dungeons is "skill advance", aka "haste". One of your monsters has a skill which will decrease the cooldown of all other cards by 1 turn. When we say skillup fodder, we're talking about monsters which we farm and feed to other monsters in order to raise the level of their active skill. Each level of an active skill reduces the cooldown of said active. For example: Here's Vishnu. At skill level 1, his active has a 15 turn cooldown. At skill level 10, it's a 6 turn cooldown. Huge difference. In order to raise that skill level, we feed him skillup fodder, which in this case is Earth Insect Dragon. To improve yellow +1 stat attributes, you have to farm those +1s. The best way to do that is to run specific dungeons during events. The next event will have 3x +egg drop rate in normal dungeons, for example, so a bunch of us will probably farm King of the Gods. Edit: Venus has niche use in some light teams. I never use her. On November 30 2015 07:12 Jealous wrote: Hi guys, resident noobie is here to noob the day! I got: Isis Viper Orochi Vishnu Okuninushi Earth Dragon Swordsman My take it: Isis has nice RCV, she is a great addition to my water team. Viper Orochi seems to be a Zombie team leader that would be better than an Ogre, so that's good to have I guess. Vishnu seems the most promising of the bunch, too bad the rest of my grass team sucks. Okuninushi - I am not too sure about. Although 4x after 6 combo is nice, I think that 6 is asking a bit much - I much prefer Bastet's 5 because 80% of the time I can make 4 on my own and pray for a 5th, but 6 is a bit high. Earth Dragon Swordsman seems like junk -_-; Gonna farm more pal dungeons to get another roll or two. What feedback do you guys have on my rolls? Also, is it worth it for me to evolve Okuninushi right now? I don't really have a good place for him as a leader on a team, and i'm also trying to evolve my Shiva and I only have 1 Rainbow mask. I would probably also want to evolve Vishnu. Thoughts? EDIT: Also my dad started playing, lol. Isis is an easy lead early on. She is also a top tier sub in the lategame. Orochi is kinda worthless in the current meta except for some niche uses as a sub. Honestly, you shouldn't need a zombie team anymore. Vishnu is a top tier green sub and can shit out stupid amounts of damage. Bastet is a better lead than Okuni. It depends on what subs you have though. The swordsman series is junk. | ||
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Cheps
United Arab Emirates197 Posts
On November 30 2015 06:58 jinyung2 wrote: lol its ok dude we are all noobs in the beginning and theres nothing wrong with being carried by friend leads 319,842,325 what leads do you use? ill try to have something up that can be useful to you. I was using set as my lead with Mitsuki as a wombo combo for sets special attack but, as the current level I'm on is all fire, its nye impossible for me to beat it. I forked over 20$ in stones for the godfest and picked up a bunch of gods: Sun quan Cao cao Norn verdandi But in the end I think I just lack the monsters to push through. I got to the boss but he's light and my water stacked team wasn't efficient (although they carried me through the previous 6 battles). I'm leading with sun quan ATM with mixture of blue monsters like sadalmelik and plesios. Friend request sent by the way. Thanks! | ||
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Jealous
10267 Posts
On November 30 2015 07:21 amazingxkcd wrote: Pretty good rolls. Isis is a fanastic utility blue card for a myriad of teams (Ra, etc) and will be very useful. I dont have much of an opnion on orochi, but Vishnu is a fantastic green card and Okuni is a very good leader and sub (for dark teams needing a delay). the swordsman is fodder, just sell for MP Word, thanks for the feedback! One question though, when should I fuse monsters and when should I sell them? Currently, I only sell really low-level stuff that I get from running pal dungeon; everything else, I fuse. | ||
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Spazer
Canada8033 Posts
On November 30 2015 07:27 Cheps wrote: I was using set as my lead with Mitsuki as a wombo combo for sets special attack but, as the current level I'm on is all fire, its nye impossible for me to beat it. I forked over 20$ in stones for the godfest and picked up a bunch of gods: Sun quan Cao cao Norn verdandi But in the end I think I just lack the monsters to push through. I got to the boss but he's light and my water stacked team wasn't efficient (although they carried me through the previous 6 battles). I'm leading with sun quan ATM with mixture of blue monsters like sadalmelik and plesios. Friend request sent by the way. Thanks! Post your team. Or use this. Chances are good you're just underleveled. You probably need to start optimizing your teams too. My ID is 383880255 if you want more friends. On November 30 2015 07:28 Jealous wrote: Word, thanks for the feedback! One question though, when should I fuse monsters and when should I sell them? Currently, I only sell really low-level stuff that I get from running pal dungeon; everything else, I fuse. These days you can fuse pretty much everything unless you lack coins. If your fodder is low level, just feed them to each other, then feed them to the monster you actually want to level. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On November 30 2015 07:27 Cheps wrote: I was using set as my lead with Mitsuki as a wombo combo for sets special attack but, as the current level I'm on is all fire, its nye impossible for me to beat it. I forked over 20$ in stones for the godfest and picked up a bunch of gods: Sun quan Cao cao Norn verdandi But in the end I think I just lack the monsters to push through. I got to the boss but he's light and my water stacked team wasn't efficient (although they carried me through the previous 6 battles). I'm leading with sun quan ATM with mixture of blue monsters like sadalmelik and plesios. Friend request sent by the way. Thanks! 329,468,391 My Verdandi is always up if you want to make a team around that. Excellent leader when you're starting out. On November 30 2015 07:28 Jealous wrote: Word, thanks for the feedback! One question though, when should I fuse monsters and when should I sell them? Currently, I only sell really low-level stuff that I get from running pal dungeon; everything else, I fuse. You can fuse pretty much everything. I don't fuse things that give less than a few thousand experience personally. If you've got some low level cards then it is cheap to fuse them with anything so it doesn't matter. | ||
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jinyung2
Luxembourg1455 Posts
On November 30 2015 07:27 Cheps wrote: I was using set as my lead with Mitsuki as a wombo combo for sets special attack but, as the current level I'm on is all fire, its nye impossible for me to beat it. I forked over 20$ in stones for the godfest and picked up a bunch of gods: Sun quan Cao cao Norn verdandi But in the end I think I just lack the monsters to push through. I got to the boss but he's light and my water stacked team wasn't efficient (although they carried me through the previous 6 battles). I'm leading with sun quan ATM with mixture of blue monsters like sadalmelik and plesios. Friend request sent by the way. Thanks! i happen to have a max level max skilled set, ill leave that up should help out. hes a good beginner leader because he teaches you to match but isnt quite as difficult as others. it can still be a little tough to make 4 different matches at first but set provides some nice tankage with hp and rcv boosts in his leader skill to make up for mistakes. On November 30 2015 07:12 Jealous wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hi guys, resident noobie is here to noob the day! I got: Isis Viper Orochi Vishnu Okuninushi Earth Dragon Swordsman My take it: Isis has nice RCV, she is a great addition to my water team. Viper Orochi seems to be a Zombie team leader that would be better than an Ogre, so that's good to have I guess. Vishnu seems the most promising of the bunch, too bad the rest of my grass team sucks. Okuninushi - I am not too sure about. Although 4x after 6 combo is nice, I think that 6 is asking a bit much - I much prefer Bastet's 5 because 80% of the time I can make 4 on my own and pray for a 5th, but 6 is a bit high. Earth Dragon Swordsman seems like junk -_-; Gonna farm more pal dungeons to get another roll or two. What feedback do you guys have on my rolls? Also, is it worth it for me to evolve Okuninushi right now? I don't really have a good place for him as a leader on a team, and i'm also trying to evolve my Shiva and I only have 1 Rainbow mask. I would probably also want to evolve Vishnu. Thoughts? EDIT: Also my dad started playing, lol. nice rolls jealous! lol @ your dad playing haha does he need friend leaders?  maybe you should post his ID | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
for feeding/selling, you generally want to keep it at a 1:1 ratio for cost/exp. So feeding a monster that is worth 2k exp for 20k gold is not worth it | ||
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Cheps
United Arab Emirates197 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On November 30 2015 08:58 Jayme wrote: D Meta does so much damage. I mean I'm really surprised at just how much she does and how much she was buffed. I have no idea how they justify l meta with how good dmeta is pray for an OP ult evo or awoken evo | ||
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dkpl
Canada1485 Posts
Done with eva collab, have a bunch of grodin fodders I can feed but I need to collect mats and dark exp. I might stone dark pirates tonight so I can get okuni maxed too. | ||
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Xafnia
Canada874 Posts
On November 30 2015 08:58 Jayme wrote: D Meta does so much damage. I mean I'm really surprised at just how much she does and how much she was buffed. I have no idea how they justify l meta with how good dmeta is DMeta is pretty rare, LMeta is super common? | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On November 30 2015 03:16 veQ wrote: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QyxLh5r.png) Got super trolled once (twice? kraken rider wtf?) Max skilled 1 sq, 2nd halfway there Was supposed to sell this account but see that theres no way for that.... T_T not rolling anymore even with 100+ stones So what would be a good l kali sub or its not worth trying? same question to verdandi.... Holy shit gib Ryune... I rolled 100x look for her but nope T.T Well, time to look for Ryune friends.... would love to have her as sub on NepDra, making arena pretty good. | ||
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jinyung2
Luxembourg1455 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Guqb3uH.jpg) can you guys help me make some kind of blue row team? or maybe do i have a passable uny team now? it doesnt have to be anything ideal, i just like to play swap around teams to keep things interesting and ive finally gathered some blue stuff. would appreciate some input | ||
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Xafnia
Canada874 Posts
I also have freyja, parvati, lui bei, osiris, GZL, phract and 2x Robin riders as other two prong subs, and a Ceres for bind clear. Also, what leader(s) do people use for green row teams? I have AA Michael, 2x Freyja, Ishida, 2x Avalon drake, GGY, ceres. Double Freyja leads + AAM + Ishida + Avalon + Avalon is 15 Row, but only 10.5x multiplier. I've never used row teams, I have no idea what kind of damage I'd be getting. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On November 30 2015 09:32 Xafnia wrote: DMeta is pretty rare, LMeta is super common? They are both GFE and the only difference is that L Meta is 5 star and D Meta is 6 star. GFEs are generally pretty useful. L kali and D kali share the same relationship as D Meta and L Meta do and Uh... Both of the Kali are amazing. L meta is practically completely obsolete now. 3.5x but the requirement to keep above 50 percent HP is pretty harsh. Sure she can have high HP but her low hp multiplier combined with low healer hp in general means my completely hyper maxed L Meta teams are sitting at about 30k hp with only a 12.25x multiplier... For only healers. Without those plus eggs you're sitting at around 23k hp. D Meta sits at 50k hyper ed and 43k average, has a higher multiple in hp and damage, and has a way better sub pool because her only requirement is "dark." It's also of not that I'd prefer below hp threshold than above these days. Above requires you to be above prior to healing and means tanking big hits cripples your damage. Below mean you can heal, still do immense damage, and you don't mind tanking massive hits. I mean L Meta has practically no use these days. She does nothing that something else doesn't just do flat better. I don't see the excuse for it. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On November 30 2015 10:17 jinyung2 wrote: + Show Spoiler + can you guys help me make some kind of blue row team? or maybe do i have a passable uny team now? it doesnt have to be anything ideal, i just like to play swap around teams to keep things interesting and ive finally gathered some blue stuff. would appreciate some input you got SQ, UY, Famiel, Muse. That's a pretty good base for a UY team. just need something to cover your dark (blodin works well) or some dark utility like Diza and you're good to go. Join us on the shota hype train  | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On November 30 2015 10:17 jinyung2 wrote: + Show Spoiler + can you guys help me make some kind of blue row team? or maybe do i have a passable uny team now? it doesnt have to be anything ideal, i just like to play swap around teams to keep things interesting and ive finally gathered some blue stuff. would appreciate some input ai&i gabe andro blonia isis and wait for ryune friends (hermes friend for now) but it is not all that good without Karin and Hermes. as for U&Y, you can run Famiel / AI&I / Isis (or Toki). Last spot is awkward, ideally another U&Y or BValk, Nut or Sara works as well. Think Sieg actually might be best choice here, or if you want invest in a Indigo, she works well enough. On November 30 2015 10:26 Xafnia wrote: Is bastet + 4x Awoken meimei basically the ideal firecat lineup? Swapping one out if you need utility? I also have freyja, parvati, lui bei, osiris, GZL, and 2x Robin riders as other two prong subs, and a Ceres for bind clear. Also, what leader(s) do people use for green row teams? I have AA Michael, 2x Freyja, Ishida, 2x Avalon drake, GGY, ceres. Double Freyja leads + AAM + Ishida + Avalon + Avalon is 15 Row, but only 10.5x multiplier. I've never used row teams, I have no idea what kind of damage I'd be getting. The 4th is overkill, vishnu or verd prob better. TBH only problem Firecat ever have is preempt, delay and resolve (looking at you Yamato Rush), 4th AMM doesn't really help there. Rolled 10 more times with leftover stones, became less salty: Overall damage with 110 roll: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/beeYK7b.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3fzm5un.jpg) Kept 31 rolls, Got 5 dark latent, 2nd YomiDra, and gained 100k MP Well, that goes all my holiday splurge, too bad no Ryune | ||
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jinyung2
Luxembourg1455 Posts
On November 30 2015 10:31 amazingxkcd wrote: you got SQ, UY, Famiel, Muse. That's a pretty good base for a UY team. just need something to cover your dark (blodin works well) or some dark utility like Diza and you're good to go. Join us on the shota hype train no blodin  usually my go to dark is my dmeta since 297 lol I guess awoken I&I could work too?i kinda like the water row team too. i guess first off ill get to leveling and feeding tama before i actually try team building. edit: or maybe this next roll once i get one more stone will give me something nice thats blue | ||
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