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On November 30 2015 10:53 jinyung2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2015 10:31 amazingxkcd wrote:On November 30 2015 10:17 jinyung2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +can you guys help me make some kind of blue row team? or maybe do i have a passable uny team now? it doesnt have to be anything ideal, i just like to play swap around teams to keep things interesting and ive finally gathered some blue stuff. would appreciate some input you got SQ, UY, Famiel, Muse. That's a pretty good base for a UY team. just need something to cover your dark (blodin works well) or some dark utility like Diza and you're good to go. Join us on the shota hype train  no blodin  usually my go to dark is my dmeta since 297 lol I guess awoken I&I could work too? i kinda like the water row team too. i guess first off ill get to leveling and feeding tama before i actually try team building.
dont need a blodin  . (he's nice for the dongs and stats stick though). I could make a wacky row team as well now that I got andro but i think i'll stick with using her as a sub for lash
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On November 30 2015 10:35 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2015 10:26 Xafnia wrote:
Is bastet + 4x Awoken meimei basically the ideal firecat lineup? Swapping one out if you need utility?
I also have freyja, parvati, lui bei, osiris, GZL, and 2x Robin riders as other two prong subs, and a Ceres for bind clear.
The 4th is overkill, vishnu or verd prob better. TBH only problem Firecat ever have is preempt, delay and resolve (looking at you Yamato Rush), 4th AMM doesn't really help there.
I don't have those two though.
On November 30 2015 10:28 Jayme wrote:
They are both GFE and the only difference is that L Meta is 5 star and D Meta is 6 star. GFEs are generally pretty useful. L kali and D kali share the same relationship as D Meta and L Meta do and Uh... Both of the Kali are amazing.
L meta is practically completely obsolete now. 3.5x but the requirement to keep above 50 percent HP is pretty harsh. Sure she can have high HP but her low hp multiplier combined with low healer hp in general means my completely hyper maxed L Meta teams are sitting at about 30k hp with only a 12.25x multiplier... For only healers. Without those plus eggs you're sitting at around 23k hp.
D Meta sits at 50k hyper ed and 43k average, has a higher multiple in hp and damage, and has a way better sub pool because her only requirement is "dark."
It's also of not that I'd prefer below hp threshold than above these days. Above requires you to be above prior to healing and means tanking big hits cripples your damage. Below mean you can heal, still do immense damage, and you don't mind tanking massive hits.
I mean L Meta has practically no use these days. She does nothing that something else doesn't just do flat better. I don't see the excuse for it.
Yea, the Kalis are amazing, but compare Grodin to Rodin and Bodin, the difference between them is massive.
And LZL is the real counterpart to DMeta. Well, we'll see how it stacks up when it gets it's Uevo, but it's pretty clear that they are supposed to be similar.
Same for Kanna vs the other dragon callers. The active on her is way different so you can't really compare them, but still.
And there's a bunch of bad GFEs. GGY, RGY, Apoc. LMeta was never more than a farming lead and bind clear sub anyways.
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Susano Pers, Michael are all good as well. It is pretty nice to have a heartmaker.
Or you can stick a GZL in there to make sure things are DED.
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"I also have freyja, parvati, lui bei, osiris, GZL, and 2x Robin riders as other two prong subs, and a Ceres for bind clear."
Those are my subs with utility/2prongs.
I am aware susano/kushi/ceres are the main useful green utility subs :p
I do also have Michael, and I can see how it combos up pretty well with Meimei for a heal+damage turn though. And mine's already max skilled, just rotting away in my box. xD
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You expect me to remember all that? :p
I'd go with Michael for sure, especially you will need the RCV help.
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xafnia i think maybe osiris is a pretty good bastet sub now? 2tpa 4 green oe and super short cd active skill that pairs well with board change actives.
with your stuff maybe something like bastet meimei meimei osiris flex bastet
i dunno tho i dont have a bastet lol
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On November 30 2015 11:03 Xafnia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2015 10:35 ragz_gt wrote:On November 30 2015 10:26 Xafnia wrote:
Is bastet + 4x Awoken meimei basically the ideal firecat lineup? Swapping one out if you need utility?
I also have freyja, parvati, lui bei, osiris, GZL, and 2x Robin riders as other two prong subs, and a Ceres for bind clear.
The 4th is overkill, vishnu or verd prob better. TBH only problem Firecat ever have is preempt, delay and resolve (looking at you Yamato Rush), 4th AMM doesn't really help there. I don't have those two though. Show nested quote +On November 30 2015 10:28 Jayme wrote:
They are both GFE and the only difference is that L Meta is 5 star and D Meta is 6 star. GFEs are generally pretty useful. L kali and D kali share the same relationship as D Meta and L Meta do and Uh... Both of the Kali are amazing.
L meta is practically completely obsolete now. 3.5x but the requirement to keep above 50 percent HP is pretty harsh. Sure she can have high HP but her low hp multiplier combined with low healer hp in general means my completely hyper maxed L Meta teams are sitting at about 30k hp with only a 12.25x multiplier... For only healers. Without those plus eggs you're sitting at around 23k hp.
D Meta sits at 50k hyper ed and 43k average, has a higher multiple in hp and damage, and has a way better sub pool because her only requirement is "dark."
It's also of not that I'd prefer below hp threshold than above these days. Above requires you to be above prior to healing and means tanking big hits cripples your damage. Below mean you can heal, still do immense damage, and you don't mind tanking massive hits.
I mean L Meta has practically no use these days. She does nothing that something else doesn't just do flat better. I don't see the excuse for it. Yea, the Kalis are amazing, but compare Grodin to Rodin and Bodin, the difference between them is massive. And LZL is the real counterpart to DMeta. Well, we'll see how it stacks up when it gets it's Uevo, but it's pretty clear that they are supposed to be similar. Same for Kanna vs the other dragon callers. The active on her is way different so you can't really compare them, but still. And there's a bunch of bad GFEs. GGY, RGY, Apoc. LMeta was never more than a farming lead and bind clear sub anyways.
RgY and Apocalypse facilitate certain function that either only one other card can do (R Valk) or that no other card can do in Apocalypse case. GGY you got me there.
L meta was, at one point, a very effective leader. I don't really think any GFE should be useless but maybe that's wishful thinking on my part.
As for Firecat... I think I'm the most experienced user here with her? I dunno. Here's my observations on here.
Anything more than 2 AMM is not necessary. 3 is alright and I'd never recommend 4 because you'll never have heart orbs and Firecat has pretty low RCV even hypermaxed unless you have an Odin Dragon and Odin Dragon just bypasses RCV with 6 auto heals.
She's weak to binds so in a bind heavy dungeon you want to run some sort of good bind removal. Best in slot is Odin Dragon. Then either Awoken Ceres or Awoken Amaterasu. I generally prefer Ama because of her haste.
Her absolute best subs are, assuming max skilled... AMM, Vishnu, Verdandi. In that order. I prefer Vishnu over Liu Bei because his active synergizes very well with the 10 plus orb enhance awakenings Firecat teams have.
Then Liu Bei, Osiris. Then Kaede and Grass Valk.
Then everything else.
Goals are every sub with either 2 two prongs or like 3 or 4 orb enhancers with at least one two prong. You want 7 time extends total.
Your best team assuming no Verd or Vishnu is going to be.
Awoken Meimeix2, Osiris, Liu Bei.
Get a Ceres for utility to swap in for the Liu Bei. Try to get a Vishnu/Verd as soon as possible. I actually don't like Liu Bei that much for firecat because he has no haste and his Cd is fairly long. His other awakenings other than the prongs are meh as well.
This will clear C9s pretty easy and some C10.
I wouldn't bother with green rows. Green is the realm of two prong supremacy. Their row teams are blah compared to fire/dark/water.
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On November 30 2015 10:35 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2015 10:17 jinyung2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +can you guys help me make some kind of blue row team? or maybe do i have a passable uny team now? it doesnt have to be anything ideal, i just like to play swap around teams to keep things interesting and ive finally gathered some blue stuff. would appreciate some input ai&i gabe andro blonia isis and wait for ryune friends (hermes friend for now) but it is not all that good without Karin and Hermes. as for U&Y, you can run Famiel / AI&I / Isis (or Toki). Last spot is awkward, ideally another U&Y or BValk, Nut or Sara works as well. Think Sieg actually might be best choice here, or if you want invest in a Indigo, she works well enough. Show nested quote +On November 30 2015 10:26 Xafnia wrote:
Is bastet + 4x Awoken meimei basically the ideal firecat lineup? Swapping one out if you need utility?
I also have freyja, parvati, lui bei, osiris, GZL, and 2x Robin riders as other two prong subs, and a Ceres for bind clear.
Also, what leader(s) do people use for green row teams?
I have AA Michael, 2x Freyja, Ishida, 2x Avalon drake, GGY, ceres.
Double Freyja leads + AAM + Ishida + Avalon + Avalon is 15 Row, but only 10.5x multiplier. I've never used row teams, I have no idea what kind of damage I'd be getting. The 4th is overkill, vishnu or verd prob better. TBH only problem Firecat ever have is preempt, delay and resolve (looking at you Yamato Rush), 4th AMM doesn't really help there. Rolled 10 more times with leftover stones, became less salty: Overall damage with 110 roll: + Show Spoiler +Kept 31 rolls, Got 5 dark latent, 2nd YomiDra, and gained 100k MP Well, that goes all my holiday splurge, too bad no Ryune
blue gala > pcgf
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zz gathered 5 stones and got a dupe i&i...
sell?
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I'd probably sell since there's really no point keeping the unawoken versions and there's no point stacking them either.
Just ran nordis for the first time, using ashiva leads with hino, caocao, asusano, and verd as subs. First 7 floors went pretty easy, but then I realized threedia's 2nd hit was more than my hp threshold, and I wanted to save susano for nordis. Managed to hit him to about 5% hp, so I could finish off the next turn with green TPAs lol.
Nordis himself wasn't so bad, first form is plenty of time to kill him before he gets dangerous, and 2nd form, with shiva's rcv boost and susano's shield for his attack boost, it was pretty simple to stall off the hino bind and slug it out with him.
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On November 30 2015 15:18 jinyung2 wrote:
zz gathered 5 stones and got a dupe i&i...
sell?
look at it as getting two waifus for the price of one.
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Is it a bug that challenge descended doesn't have the type restrictions? So easy when I can use my main team for everything.
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On November 30 2015 14:17 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2015 10:35 ragz_gt wrote:On November 30 2015 10:17 jinyung2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +can you guys help me make some kind of blue row team? or maybe do i have a passable uny team now? it doesnt have to be anything ideal, i just like to play swap around teams to keep things interesting and ive finally gathered some blue stuff. would appreciate some input ai&i gabe andro blonia isis and wait for ryune friends (hermes friend for now) but it is not all that good without Karin and Hermes. as for U&Y, you can run Famiel / AI&I / Isis (or Toki). Last spot is awkward, ideally another U&Y or BValk, Nut or Sara works as well. Think Sieg actually might be best choice here, or if you want invest in a Indigo, she works well enough. On November 30 2015 10:26 Xafnia wrote:
Is bastet + 4x Awoken meimei basically the ideal firecat lineup? Swapping one out if you need utility?
I also have freyja, parvati, lui bei, osiris, GZL, and 2x Robin riders as other two prong subs, and a Ceres for bind clear.
Also, what leader(s) do people use for green row teams?
I have AA Michael, 2x Freyja, Ishida, 2x Avalon drake, GGY, ceres.
Double Freyja leads + AAM + Ishida + Avalon + Avalon is 15 Row, but only 10.5x multiplier. I've never used row teams, I have no idea what kind of damage I'd be getting. The 4th is overkill, vishnu or verd prob better. TBH only problem Firecat ever have is preempt, delay and resolve (looking at you Yamato Rush), 4th AMM doesn't really help there. Rolled 10 more times with leftover stones, became less salty: Overall damage with 110 roll: + Show Spoiler +Kept 31 rolls, Got 5 dark latent, 2nd YomiDra, and gained 100k MP Well, that goes all my holiday splurge, too bad no Ryune blue gala > pcgf
It's more the case of I sold most of PCGF rolls, though I did get annoying number of blue.
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rolled once with welfare stones and got a lumiel. literally how
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On December 01 2015 01:41 oneofthem wrote:
rolled once with welfare stones and got a lumiel. literally how
got a durga? that's really all she is useful for :/
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fuckkkkkkkkkkk
went into yamato rush with sakuya got to boss then got him under 50% but he blinded me so i tried to solve the blind board but only got 6 combos then he BARELY lived and healed to max T_T next combo got him under 30% and i died..
I feel extra dumb because i still had active skills, I coulda gravity'd to probably bring him under 30% and since i had 1 more turn of golem shield left i coulda tanked his under 30% hit then popped a kali board to finish him off.. but instead I decide to use kali while im blinded and try to solve the board after clicking around looking for the light tpa.. i even got lucky on hino this run too the skill delay was short
qq this dungeon sucks
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Tell me about it...
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I was at prob 23.5k hp
The salt is real
Sakuya sounds like a much better idea, i might do that instead.
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dam.. that sucks
sakuya seemed like my best options, I went with sakuya dmeta kali kali green golem sakuya
I just cant believe it though that 1% zzz i feel like i can clear it if i try a couple more times tho
edit: ugh i wish i didnt spend those 5 stones for a dupe i&i
so eager to try yamato rush again ~_~
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On December 01 2015 03:37 ragz_gt wrote:Tell me about it... I was at prob 23.5k hp The salt is real Sakuya sounds like a much better idea, i might do that instead.
Have you been using Combos, though?
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dam filled up 99 natural stam and ran yamato rush
floor 2 I get light izanami and my 80% sbr fails, hit her under 50%, about 3 turns dealing with orb change eventually the 1.44~4x multiplier chips her down below 30% -> jammer -> nuke -> dead
T^T
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