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Spazer
Canada8033 Posts
On October 22 2015 02:01 dkpl wrote: i think most of us just ran tengu master until it dropped. I'm gonna have to do something similar to get xuanzang for ahaku :/ Ha, joke's on you! I spent 6 months building a team for tengu. ;; | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On October 22 2015 09:19 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Aren't odin tamas just as useless as the chibidras? You're paying 49 stamina for one extra floor and no chibidra invades. There is no way that is better than running the 50 stamina. Well that depends on whether or not you're skilling Odin but I think you undervalue the lack of shit invades. Perhaps 50 stam is more efficient but I'd still rather pay 99 to avoid the stupid triple chibidra 50 stam ones I get often enough to pull my hair out. It's probably just confirmation bias but I noticed a significant amount more of adult tamadra invades in 99. The additional floor helps with invade chance as well. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On October 22 2015 08:49 Jayme wrote: It tells you something about how dumb cost restricted dungeons are when people would rather run Yamato Rush than the Tengu descend for a Tengu. Also im reasonably sure the 99 stam one is actually better. Higher large tama invade rate, no trash devi tama, and an extra floor. Best reasonable case scenario for 50 stam is 3 baby and 1 adult. Worst for 99 stam is 4 babies and 1 Odin tama. Considering the vast majority of 99 are better than that and the majority of 50 give you a full 2 babies with 2 trash the 99 stam is superior unless your luck is amazing with 50 stam At least Tengu is reasonably beatable. How many people here actually got gaia from her dungeon? | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On October 22 2015 09:42 Jayme wrote: Well that depends on whether or not you're skilling Odin but I think you undervalue the lack of shit invades. Perhaps 50 stam is more efficient but I'd still rather pay 99 to avoid the stupid triple chibidra 50 stam ones I get often enough to pull my hair out. It's probably just confirmation bias but I noticed a significant amount more of adult tamadra invades in 99. The additional floor helps with invade chance as well. The 99 stamina dungeon has 3 babies on each floor and a chance at a tamadra. If it was 3-1 guaranteed then it would be a .25 rate so my .20 is probably too generous as well. In the long term that triple chibidra drop is going to balance out with a run that you got none on. Value is based on long term stamina efficiency; not that run you got super lucky or super unlucky. If you're skilling Odin I agree that 99 stamina is superior easily, but I have never pulled an odin so ^_^ If you assume that Gungho has it out for you and gives you almost 2 Chibidras per run average... 50 stamina. 3 floors. Baby tamadra rate: .5 Tamadra rate: .1 Chibidra rate: .4 99 stamina. 4 floors. Baby tamadra rate: .8 Tamadra rate: .2 (3*.5*.4 + 3*.1 *1 + 3*.4*0 + .33*1)/50 = (.6 + .3 + 0 + .33) / 50 = .0246 awakenings per stamina (4*.8*.4 + 4*.2*1 + .33*1)/99 = (1.28 + .8 + .33) / 99 = .0243 awakenings per stamina | ||
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jinyung2
Luxembourg1455 Posts
50 stam or 99 stam?? | ||
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Spazer
Canada8033 Posts
On October 22 2015 09:42 ragz_gt wrote: At least Tengu is reasonably beatable. How many people here actually got gaia from her dungeon? Pretty sure I quad stoned that shit. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On October 22 2015 10:30 jinyung2 wrote: blitz your throwing a lot of numbers at me and i dont understand most of it D: 50 stam or 99 stam?? Find the expected value of a run and then divide it by the stamina. The expected value is the number of floors times the drop chance times the awakening chance. My (R)Odin isn't max skill: Run 99 stamina. I just want tamadras!: Run 50 stamina. | ||
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jinyung2
Luxembourg1455 Posts
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Xafnia
Canada874 Posts
On October 22 2015 09:42 ragz_gt wrote: At least Tengu is reasonably beatable. How many people here actually got gaia from her dungeon? I've cleared both gaia and tengu descended. Haven't done Yamato rush. :l Edit: PEM Carnival is a trap unless you are hoping for drall/shardra/toytops. | ||
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jinyung2
Luxembourg1455 Posts
omg another set of challenge dungeons, its been a1 set of pii + snow globe/tama, 1 set of pii + jewels or 2 sets of pii every event. its kinda overwhelming | ||
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veQ
Poland339 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9Qzo3jG.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pWOpzEz.png) But how do I skill her up/ o.O T_T | ||
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jinyung2
Luxembourg1455 Posts
looks like the halloween dungeon boss skills her up | ||
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veQ
Poland339 Posts
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abuse
Latvia1942 Posts
On October 22 2015 17:34 jinyung2 wrote: wtf orb changer carnival? I just thought it was not enough to mention this only one time. Seriously - wtf. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
I wonder how much trash is in that director rem. A bastet would be pretty amazing. | ||
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jinyung2
Luxembourg1455 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On October 23 2015 07:16 jinyung2 wrote: i really wanna yolo roll but only have 9 stones and i plan to stone zaerog a bunch so i think ill have to pass That is probably the more intelligent path for me as well to use with Awoken Yomi eventually. I'm just not sure I can clear the dungeon | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
Gonna pass though since it prob won't overlap with godfest. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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