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dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
March 11 2015 01:18 GMT
#2921
So I just ran hera-beorc with a tweaked team, seeing as it's my last day to run it for the pii.

Got to hera beorc with all my actives. Activate meimei. Get a board with 3 green orbs.


GGGGGGG
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-11 01:27:56
March 11 2015 01:24 GMT
#2922
dam that sucks :l

On March 11 2015 07:46 Slaughter wrote:
Yea I have heard of some people not bothering running Kali until they have both. I haven't used mine yet because I am leveling and skilling stuff but right now my subs for my L Kali team are D Kali/ D/L Yomi/ L Meta / Fuma.

that seems like a pretty amazing l kali team!

edit: they also had a thing at the bottom of the l kali art announcement saying:

"New ults revealed last week have been tweaked and will release in JP this weekend. More details will be made available tomorrow."

I wonder what stuff changed?
Argentina
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-11 02:13:24
March 11 2015 02:05 GMT
#2923
On March 11 2015 10:13 Jayme wrote:
She functions as any other 5x leader without multiple Kali and her active is probably better than even U&Ys.. People have been running 5x's without the Kali active for ages to really great effect don't know why that would change now. She's a great sub for herself but not anywhere near as important as say... Blodin for Blonia


Because 25x rainbow is not really enough for new stuff where you need kill 3 big dude in a row, which is why Kirin fell off so hard.
U&Y team just embrace the RNG and goes blue heavy, while Kali need multiple Kali active at feed the TPA
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
March 11 2015 02:28 GMT
#2924
On March 11 2015 11:05 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 10:13 Jayme wrote:
She functions as any other 5x leader without multiple Kali and her active is probably better than even U&Ys.. People have been running 5x's without the Kali active for ages to really great effect don't know why that would change now. She's a great sub for herself but not anywhere near as important as say... Blodin for Blonia


Because 25x rainbow is not really enough for new stuff where you need kill 3 big dude in a row, which is why Kirin fell off so hard.
U&Y team just embrace the RNG and goes blue heavy, while Kali need multiple Kali active at feed the TPA


I'd see your point but the best 25x teams for Kirin and Kali are pretty much light damage with the sub attribute taking care of the rainbow.

Kirin fell off because Kali is considered generally superior to her. Kirin runs things like lmeta Apollo valk kali or echidna for kali which is entirely light main or like main with one fire type. Kali is much the same way except she might run like D/L yomi or something but is still running primarily light based teams because l meta and kali means you only have dark to worry about.

You don't need the Kali active to maintain tpa if you manage your orbs correctly. Seeing as both Kali and Kirin are capable of doing all of the extreme rushes without stones they are more than capable of taking on multiple bosses at the same time. We're simply passed the point where you can just one shot everything and have to heal through some hits. The rushes have bosses you can tank if you must so you'll just have to heal + 6 combo or whatever.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
March 11 2015 02:37 GMT
#2925
just 0 stoned zeus dios with ra :D
Argentina
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-11 02:39:27
March 11 2015 02:39 GMT
#2926
On March 11 2015 11:05 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 10:13 Jayme wrote:
She functions as any other 5x leader without multiple Kali and her active is probably better than even U&Ys.. People have been running 5x's without the Kali active for ages to really great effect don't know why that would change now. She's a great sub for herself but not anywhere near as important as say... Blodin for Blonia


Because 25x rainbow is not really enough for new stuff where you need kill 3 big dude in a row, which is why Kirin fell off so hard.
U&Y team just embrace the RNG and goes blue heavy, while Kali need multiple Kali active at feed the TPA


blue rng best rng. thank you based U&Y

On March 11 2015 11:37 jinyung2 wrote:
just 0 stoned zeus dios with ra :D



nice mate.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
March 11 2015 03:19 GMT
#2927
So I replaced a certain useless chinese god with a ninja

http://imgur.com/1zx4aqt

each gzl ended up doing over 2m damage after skyfalls lol. The run was very very comfortable. I can't believe I died 4 times on this dungeon lol. Maybe I'm just terrible at team building for GZL.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
March 11 2015 04:02 GMT
#2928
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 11 2015 04:11 GMT
#2929
eh, the parvati seems pretty decent.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
March 11 2015 04:13 GMT
#2930
Parvati:
LS: Wood attack x2.5, recovery x1.5. When 5 or more RCV orbs are matched, attack x2.
Lakshmi:
AS: Deal x20 attack to one target, recover 50% of damage. Randomly spawn 3 water orbs from any non-water orbs. Water attack x2.5, recovery x1.5. When 5 or more RCV orbs are matched, attack x2.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
March 11 2015 04:17 GMT
#2931
PSA PAD doesn't work with Android 5.1 so be careful about updating (if you're an active player).
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-11 07:54:41
March 11 2015 04:32 GMT
#2932
On March 11 2015 13:13 amazingxkcd wrote:
Parvati:
LS: Wood attack x2.5, recovery x1.5. When 5 or more RCV orbs are matched, attack x2.
Lakshmi:
AS: Deal x20 attack to one target, recover 50% of damage. Randomly spawn 3 water orbs from any non-water orbs. Water attack x2.5, recovery x1.5. When 5 or more RCV orbs are matched, attack x2.


Nice lakshmi leader skill. Really. For one more heart orb you can rock 49x instead of 25x(yay juggler) AND you have a pretty terrible AS and Awakenings that give absolutely no focus!

So incredible. lahksmi gets to be mediocre forever! So happy for her!

All real talk she's actually usable now even if B Sonia is generally going to be superior. If she had. A 2nd row enhance I'd use her right away. With the 1.5x recovery now you want as much hp as you can get so basically a row enhance physical team...

The more I think about it the more I might actually use her. Dunno yet. Active is still pretty meh. 3 more cooldown because of that stupid drain is just ridiculous. The fact that it doesn't turn all fire to hearts(or darks or greens or whatever) and just makes 3 hearts WITH a 3 turn higher cooldown is just freaking terrible. Her awakenings are meh...and if I'm running a row enhance physical team I have this nifty B Sonia for that purpose...

On the other token Parvati is pretty freaking strong. Her active is way better, the double TPA is nice, and she's bind resistant. Michael+ MeiMei is pretty much instant death and Perseus works really well with her. Unlike Lakshmi Parvati is fully capable of activating her LS almost regardless of board with her AS and is flexible as both a sub and a leader. 25x bind resistant leaders are at a premium.

Verdict? Lakshmi is still mediocre and probably will be forever. Parvati is a monster.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
March 11 2015 06:41 GMT
#2933
On March 11 2015 11:39 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 11:05 ragz_gt wrote:
On March 11 2015 10:13 Jayme wrote:
She functions as any other 5x leader without multiple Kali and her active is probably better than even U&Ys.. People have been running 5x's without the Kali active for ages to really great effect don't know why that would change now. She's a great sub for herself but not anywhere near as important as say... Blodin for Blonia


Because 25x rainbow is not really enough for new stuff where you need kill 3 big dude in a row, which is why Kirin fell off so hard.
U&Y team just embrace the RNG and goes blue heavy, while Kali need multiple Kali active at feed the TPA


blue rng best rng. thank you based U&Y

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 11:37 jinyung2 wrote:
just 0 stoned zeus dios with ra :D



nice mate.

thanks! i feel like it really shouldnt have been a struggle but i kept getting orb trolled on floor 1. got real lucky on hera and didnt get the double slap which woulda just flat out killed me since I only have like 16.5k hp and managed to heal back to like 14.5k to barely survive zeus preemptive haha. all in all very lucky run
Argentina
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
March 11 2015 10:26 GMT
#2934
On March 11 2015 13:32 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 13:13 amazingxkcd wrote:
Parvati:
LS: Wood attack x2.5, recovery x1.5. When 5 or more RCV orbs are matched, attack x2.
Lakshmi:
AS: Deal x20 attack to one target, recover 50% of damage. Randomly spawn 3 water orbs from any non-water orbs. Water attack x2.5, recovery x1.5. When 5 or more RCV orbs are matched, attack x2.


Nice lakshmi leader skill. Really. For one more heart orb you can rock 49x instead of 25x(yay juggler) AND you have a pretty terrible AS and Awakenings that give absolutely no focus!

So incredible. lahksmi gets to be mediocre forever! So happy for her!

All real talk she's actually usable now even if B Sonia is generally going to be superior. If she had. A 2nd row enhance I'd use her right away. With the 1.5x recovery now you want as much hp as you can get so basically a row enhance physical team...

The more I think about it the more I might actually use her. Dunno yet. Active is still pretty meh. 3 more cooldown because of that stupid drain is just ridiculous. The fact that it doesn't turn all fire to hearts(or darks or greens or whatever) and just makes 3 hearts WITH a 3 turn higher cooldown is just freaking terrible. Her awakenings are meh...and if I'm running a row enhance physical team I have this nifty B Sonia for that purpose...

On the other token Parvati is pretty freaking strong. Her active is way better, the double TPA is nice, and she's bind resistant. Michael+ MeiMei is pretty much instant death and Perseus works really well with her. Unlike Lakshmi Parvati is fully capable of activating her LS almost regardless of board with her AS and is flexible as both a sub and a leader. 25x bind resistant leaders are at a premium.

Verdict? Lakshmi is still mediocre and probably will be forever. Parvati is a monster.

what do you think of the new godfest exclusives? they seem really really strong to me
Argentina
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-11 10:45:24
March 11 2015 10:43 GMT
#2935
On March 11 2015 19:26 jinyung2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 13:32 Jayme wrote:
On March 11 2015 13:13 amazingxkcd wrote:
Parvati:
LS: Wood attack x2.5, recovery x1.5. When 5 or more RCV orbs are matched, attack x2.
Lakshmi:
AS: Deal x20 attack to one target, recover 50% of damage. Randomly spawn 3 water orbs from any non-water orbs. Water attack x2.5, recovery x1.5. When 5 or more RCV orbs are matched, attack x2.


Nice lakshmi leader skill. Really. For one more heart orb you can rock 49x instead of 25x(yay juggler) AND you have a pretty terrible AS and Awakenings that give absolutely no focus!

So incredible. lahksmi gets to be mediocre forever! So happy for her!

All real talk she's actually usable now even if B Sonia is generally going to be superior. If she had. A 2nd row enhance I'd use her right away. With the 1.5x recovery now you want as much hp as you can get so basically a row enhance physical team...

The more I think about it the more I might actually use her. Dunno yet. Active is still pretty meh. 3 more cooldown because of that stupid drain is just ridiculous. The fact that it doesn't turn all fire to hearts(or darks or greens or whatever) and just makes 3 hearts WITH a 3 turn higher cooldown is just freaking terrible. Her awakenings are meh...and if I'm running a row enhance physical team I have this nifty B Sonia for that purpose...

On the other token Parvati is pretty freaking strong. Her active is way better, the double TPA is nice, and she's bind resistant. Michael+ MeiMei is pretty much instant death and Perseus works really well with her. Unlike Lakshmi Parvati is fully capable of activating her LS almost regardless of board with her AS and is flexible as both a sub and a leader. 25x bind resistant leaders are at a premium.

Verdict? Lakshmi is still mediocre and probably will be forever. Parvati is a monster.

what do you think of the new godfest exclusives? they seem really really strong to me


Gadius and Tifon are straight out of the juggler power creep hand book, Gadius more so than Tifon but again...6x for 2 heart combos is insanity. At least he can be bound.

Ilum and Zuo are much more difficult to activate. Again I don't understand why hearts have it so easy. For Illum or Zuo to get the equivalent attack modifier they need 12 orbs in a 6/6 split which is many many times more rare than having 6 heart orbs to use. I kind of understand that because its heart orbs to activate the damage isn't as high but realistically activating 2 heart combos with any sort of other orb is pretty easy. That said they're both pretty good with Illum having the far better active skill. Ilum is going to play like a Sonia really with himself being his own premium sub.

This is all happening because Japan has some freakish consumer protection laws that basically make nerfing Juggler illegal so now they have to figure out a way to make him less relevant. I really hope this doesn't just destroy the game.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
March 11 2015 12:24 GMT
#2936
i feel like with the other two zuo and ilum, they could benefit really well from row enchances. zuo would be three color than a orb changer to convert a color to the one he needs and if he makes like 4 rows with 2 of each color it would sorta be like a ronia nuke except 36x instead of 6.25x. with ilum its even easier I guess since hes a dual color full board change (fire light) with the same crazy 36x multiplier. I guess the trade off is they don't have ronia's stalling power without rcv boosts and stuff but just in general, they have crazy burst potential and probably benefit greatly from specific (probably REM only) orb changers :S I haven't really played PAD for too long, and some people say player reactions to newer more powerful monsters are the same every time and the hype ends up dying down but I feel like juggler and these guys are a pretty big step up in power/ease of use.

On a diff note, the 2x snow globe exp patch kicked in, max leveled my toki and got uevo dmeta from lvl 33 to 84 in 1 feed glad I saved these haha
Argentina
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
March 11 2015 15:31 GMT
#2937
ilum ilum yamatake yamatake yamatake ilum the dream lol
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
March 11 2015 15:37 GMT
#2938
sun quan evos came to NA. And I dont have any blue fruits.

Also, still no athena skillups yet :/
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-11 18:53:17
March 11 2015 18:27 GMT
#2939
I was skeptical at first but looking again at the new godfest exclusives, they look really strong indeed !

What I'm concerned about is that there are a lot of exclusives now so it's getting harder to have one that you wish... It could be a little better if they put two series at 1x rate each day, so that you could chose a bit your day depending on which exclusive you're (naively) looking for.

As for lakshmi yeah... this active is really fucking shitty, I hope they realize it someday. I might evo her anyway though, I have three blue orbs waiting in my box and no use for them besides Orochi lol. Maybe I should keep them for some Beelzebub or Fagan evo though.

Speaking of Orochi, I wish there was a water leader with a two-pronged, I'd love to make a team with that leader, new Blodin uevo, Orochi, and so on. My water cards are just sleeping in my box atm...

About L.Kali, I haven't played a lot with her tbh, I pulled Pandora shortly after and focused on her a lot. It seemed to me she wasn't as powerful as I thought, like one shooting monsters on rushes with a few two pronged lol. Maybe you need you whole team to be +297 to do that. lol
My current team is L.Kali, Blodin, L.Meta, Athena, Izanagi. Seems kinda fine, I used to play with Yomi instead of Blodin and feel like a little more time to move orbs would be great, I'm thinking about putting Indra in this. Since I don't have any orb changer, Izanagi gives a good burst to oneshot a boss (he even has a two-pronged whoo).
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
March 11 2015 19:26 GMT
#2940
On March 12 2015 00:37 amazingxkcd wrote:
sun quan evos came to NA. And I dont have any blue fruits.

Also, still no athena skillups yet :/

Attempting to skillup outside of 2x is largely an exercise in futility. Stockpile fodder until the next 2x urgent.
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