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rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
January 13 2015 04:06 GMT
#2181
On January 13 2015 09:55 Jayme wrote:
Running mech during 5x isn't bad at all and it's worth around 70k fodder experience and 20k rank experience. The more I play b Sonia the more I'm convinced that ronia isn't the op one... The blue one is... And she doesn't even have her ultimate evolution yet. Granted her best subs are heavy in the rem department but the Karin ultimate and Hermes Ultimate pushed her over the edge.


I have a bsonia/karin/hermes but they are in my box gathering dust... is the team really that good if you don't have any blodins? What's the hardest dungeon you can beat with a bsonia team?
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
January 13 2015 04:31 GMT
#2182
On January 13 2015 12:33 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 12:27 dkpl wrote:
Ran two mech dragons, got 5+ eggs, I don't even


Unfortunately one of them is a on one of the mech dragons i plan to fuse for hadar, so I'm not sure if I want to run it again later for a non plus version or not, lol.

Might as well? Stamina is cheap, and mechdragon drops are guaranteed even when it's not Monday.


Oh sweet, I might as well then.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 13 2015 05:06 GMT
#2183
Yea Mechdragon is crazy on Mondays. I got 4 +eggs on one run rofl. Finally managed to max egg my ronia! Now on to Haku!
Never Knows Best.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 05:55:18
January 13 2015 05:50 GMT
#2184
On January 13 2015 13:06 rsvp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 09:55 Jayme wrote:
Running mech during 5x isn't bad at all and it's worth around 70k fodder experience and 20k rank experience. The more I play b Sonia the more I'm convinced that ronia isn't the op one... The blue one is... And she doesn't even have her ultimate evolution yet. Granted her best subs are heavy in the rem department but the Karin ultimate and Hermes Ultimate pushed her over the edge.


I have a bsonia/karin/hermes but they are in my box gathering dust... is the team really that good if you don't have any blodins? What's the hardest dungeon you can beat with a bsonia team?


Blodin use to be absolutely necessary for Bsonia teams because he was just about the only physical monster that had any sort of recovery at all. It also didn't hurt that his triple row enhance/triple skill boost awakenings were amazing. However, when Hermes and Karin were added their recovery isn't TOTALLY shoddy and can replace Blodin adequately. Their actives are better and you can make up the lack of recovery with some focus in to recover plus eggs. I think it's actually okay to run a Bsonia team without a Blodin nowadays. It used to be that the best Bsonia teams were like triple Blodin ones or whatever but nowadays I'd only ever really use one maximum. Karin/Hermes actives are just amazing..and they have synergistic awakenings.

As far the hardest dungeon? Honestly I think if it weren't for the HP requirements for some of the level 10 challenge dungeons she'd be more than capable of doing them. Unfortunately while 31k is within the realm of possibility for a Bsonia team the 38k hits really aren't...and I'm not aware of a good physical defender that would actually do anything. Midgard is worth considering but you lose a row enhance and a good active. I have personally zero stoned both Extreme God Rush and Challenge 2 - Level 9 with my Bsonia team of Bsonia/Hermes/Karin/Blodin/Bubblie/Friend B Sonia. I'm pretty confident of my ability to do Hera rush when I get enough + eggs to boost me above the Divine Queen 31k preemptive strike.

So pretty much anything.

Also of note is that recovery eggs are of a premium on a BSonia team. BSonia herself has zero recovery at max level and most of her subs are sitting at around 200 or so. 99 recovery eggs on BSonia turns her zero recovery in to about 1850~ recovery assuming you're using a friend B Sonia..and you should be.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 05:58:27
January 13 2015 05:53 GMT
#2185
If only I had a Hermes and Blodin lol. BSonia has been known as the secret OP for a while now. Its just she is rarer than RSonia and harder to build a good team for.
Never Knows Best.
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
January 13 2015 06:14 GMT
#2186
On January 13 2015 14:50 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 13:06 rsvp wrote:
On January 13 2015 09:55 Jayme wrote:
Running mech during 5x isn't bad at all and it's worth around 70k fodder experience and 20k rank experience. The more I play b Sonia the more I'm convinced that ronia isn't the op one... The blue one is... And she doesn't even have her ultimate evolution yet. Granted her best subs are heavy in the rem department but the Karin ultimate and Hermes Ultimate pushed her over the edge.


I have a bsonia/karin/hermes but they are in my box gathering dust... is the team really that good if you don't have any blodins? What's the hardest dungeon you can beat with a bsonia team?


Blodin use to be absolutely necessary for Bsonia teams because he was just about the only physical monster that had any sort of recovery at all. It also didn't hurt that his triple row enhance/triple skill boost awakenings were amazing. However, when Hermes and Karin were added their recovery isn't TOTALLY shoddy and can replace Blodin adequately. Their actives are better and you can make up the lack of recovery with some focus in to recover plus eggs. I think it's actually okay to run a Bsonia team without a Blodin nowadays. It used to be that the best Bsonia teams were like triple Blodin ones or whatever but nowadays I'd only ever really use one maximum. Karin/Hermes actives are just amazing..and they have synergistic awakenings.

As far the hardest dungeon? Honestly I think if it weren't for the HP requirements for some of the level 10 challenge dungeons she'd be more than capable of doing them. Unfortunately while 31k is within the realm of possibility for a Bsonia team the 38k hits really aren't...and I'm not aware of a good physical defender that would actually do anything. Midgard is worth considering but you lose a row enhance and a good active. I have personally zero stoned both Extreme God Rush and Challenge 2 - Level 9 with my Bsonia team of Bsonia/Hermes/Karin/Blodin/Bubblie/Friend B Sonia. I'm pretty confident of my ability to do Hera rush when I get enough + eggs to boost me above the Divine Queen 31k preemptive strike.

So pretty much anything.

Also of note is that recovery eggs are of a premium on a BSonia team. BSonia herself has zero recovery at max level and most of her subs are sitting at around 200 or so. 99 recovery eggs on BSonia turns her zero recovery in to about 1850~ recovery assuming you're using a friend B Sonia..and you should be.


Hmm I might have to try her out... I'm still kinda worried about not having a blodin though. I understand that you don't need 3 blodins but having 1 I think is a pretty big deal. He has as much as RCV as the rest of the team combined (sonias + hermes + karin + bubblie), and the triple row enhance adds a lot to the team's damage.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 06:31:28
January 13 2015 06:30 GMT
#2187
On January 13 2015 15:14 rsvp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 14:50 Jayme wrote:
On January 13 2015 13:06 rsvp wrote:
On January 13 2015 09:55 Jayme wrote:
Running mech during 5x isn't bad at all and it's worth around 70k fodder experience and 20k rank experience. The more I play b Sonia the more I'm convinced that ronia isn't the op one... The blue one is... And she doesn't even have her ultimate evolution yet. Granted her best subs are heavy in the rem department but the Karin ultimate and Hermes Ultimate pushed her over the edge.


I have a bsonia/karin/hermes but they are in my box gathering dust... is the team really that good if you don't have any blodins? What's the hardest dungeon you can beat with a bsonia team?


Blodin use to be absolutely necessary for Bsonia teams because he was just about the only physical monster that had any sort of recovery at all. It also didn't hurt that his triple row enhance/triple skill boost awakenings were amazing. However, when Hermes and Karin were added their recovery isn't TOTALLY shoddy and can replace Blodin adequately. Their actives are better and you can make up the lack of recovery with some focus in to recover plus eggs. I think it's actually okay to run a Bsonia team without a Blodin nowadays. It used to be that the best Bsonia teams were like triple Blodin ones or whatever but nowadays I'd only ever really use one maximum. Karin/Hermes actives are just amazing..and they have synergistic awakenings.

As far the hardest dungeon? Honestly I think if it weren't for the HP requirements for some of the level 10 challenge dungeons she'd be more than capable of doing them. Unfortunately while 31k is within the realm of possibility for a Bsonia team the 38k hits really aren't...and I'm not aware of a good physical defender that would actually do anything. Midgard is worth considering but you lose a row enhance and a good active. I have personally zero stoned both Extreme God Rush and Challenge 2 - Level 9 with my Bsonia team of Bsonia/Hermes/Karin/Blodin/Bubblie/Friend B Sonia. I'm pretty confident of my ability to do Hera rush when I get enough + eggs to boost me above the Divine Queen 31k preemptive strike.

So pretty much anything.

Also of note is that recovery eggs are of a premium on a BSonia team. BSonia herself has zero recovery at max level and most of her subs are sitting at around 200 or so. 99 recovery eggs on BSonia turns her zero recovery in to about 1850~ recovery assuming you're using a friend B Sonia..and you should be.


Hmm I might have to try her out... I'm still kinda worried about not having a blodin though. I understand that you don't need 3 blodins but having 1 I think is a pretty big deal. He has as much as RCV as the rest of the team combined (sonias + hermes + karin + bubblie), and the triple row enhance adds a lot to the team's damage.


If you already have a mythical level team I wouldn't bother...she takes a lot of investment in the rcv + egg department and skill level department to make her blast through the upper upper tier dungeons. That being said she could easily handle everything just short of Extreme God Rush without a Blodin...that's quite a bit of range she has without her S-tier sub. You're likely to lose out on two row enhances and two skill boosts on average with another sub and probably gain a better active out of it.

Really it just depends on how much investment you're willing to make right now to see if it's worth it. If you don't have a mythical viable team yet she'll easily be your ticket...and she's generally way safer than the 5x leads (and this coming from a Kirin lover...)


Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
January 13 2015 08:42 GMT
#2188
First 200ish stamina spent on door and l&s netted me 3+ eggs, final 200 stamina spent on 4 mech dragon runs netted me 10+ eggs lol
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 10:25:54
January 13 2015 10:04 GMT
#2189
Sigh I want to keep running Mech Dragons but today is keeper of the gold day...and I need a good 7 of them. Fun times ahead.

Starry View Lane is also on the schedule for tomorrow...yea...yea gonna be running that like crazy.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
January 13 2015 12:20 GMT
#2190
Damn, I somehow fucked up my Extreme Metal Dragon run. I did it with my Athena team before but this time three two-pronged combos and Izanagi enhance weren't enough it seems. RIP my 100 sta :'(

And you see guys, I told you Mechdragons are good. Not the best sta/exp efficiency but fodder exp and +eggs = $$$
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 14:34:57
January 13 2015 14:27 GMT
#2191
I'm trying to put together a Dmeta team, but without Hanzo.. I'll even admit to rolling a few times in this gala (which I know is against the rules). I ended up getting a Gryps and a Persephone, which are both viable subs, but no Hanzo..

I just need a devilit for the Uevo recipe and then I'm good to go.

I'm thinking of running: DMeta, Persephone, Gryps, Haku, and Hamahime.

But other potential subs that I have are: Anubis, Karin, CDD, Vritra, Beez, Vamp, 2 more Hakus, Dill Sirius, Grape dragon, Chibi Yomi, Chibi Luci, DD Batman, Some Ronias (1 normal, 3 chibi).

Can anyone think of a better setup than that? Is it really worth investing in right now, or just wait for a Hanzbro?
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 14:47:42
January 13 2015 14:44 GMT
#2192
If you can skill him up, I think Vritra is actually rather powerful with his two rows and the active enhance. The two rows would be welcome imo since Persephone has none. But I'm not sure if the accumulation of rows is that strong when you hit with x16 anyway. I never tried to math it.
Hamahime is fine, I'd say you need at least one 5 turns orb changer on the team. The rest of the subs are strong enough to deal the damage anyway.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
January 13 2015 14:53 GMT
#2193
Hmmm... Yea I had Vritra in my lineup on padherder (planning this team), before I got Gryps. I think the combination of awakenings, stats and active skill could be very good.

Thanks for the advice! Who would you sub Vritra in for? Gryps?

The only 5 turn orb changers I have, that would be suitable, are: Vamp, Hamahime, and Dill Sirius.

None of them are skilled up, though.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 13 2015 18:12 GMT
#2194
Dmeta teams need skills. Mine has 2 5 turn orb changers (b valk and hanzo). Very useful to have so you might want to skill vamp and throw him on there.
Never Knows Best.
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1765 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 18:45:34
January 13 2015 18:37 GMT
#2195
For KOG farming and descends I have:

Dmeta, Anubis, Vritra, hanzo, vampire

The only skilled unit is the vampire. Outside of hanzo, you may have more optimal subs for a dmeta team.
Leee Jaee Doong
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
January 13 2015 23:25 GMT
#2196
zeal and naga returning on next coin dungeon rotation. Ruski, if you're looking to farm mass amounts of green mask, here's your best chance, lol.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
westpfelia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States38 Posts
January 13 2015 23:51 GMT
#2197
Is the Watery Temptress running for more then two days? Or is it two days then its the 2x run?
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 23:55 GMT
#2198
On January 14 2015 08:51 westpfelia wrote:
Is the Watery Temptress running for more then two days? Or is it two days then its the 2x run?


2 days and 8 more hours on watery temptress.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
January 14 2015 02:28 GMT
#2199
http://imgur.com/JAVbwzm

Easy S rank. The Neneko's do full damage if you leave them alone but it's pretty easy to sweep them with 6.25x attack, even with red damage. I used minerva's active for floor 4 to guarantee a sweep (way overkill) and the chaser was easily tanked and can be safely grinded down.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 04:48:03
January 14 2015 04:46 GMT
#2200
On January 14 2015 08:25 dkpl wrote:
zeal and naga returning on next coin dungeon rotation. Ruski, if you're looking to farm mass amounts of green mask, here's your best chance, lol.

Might as well I guess, since I still have 2 sasukes to max skill :|. So much other stuff coming up that I wanna dump stamina on too though....

Managed to S rank lightchaser too but I just did unuevo ronia x ronia and stalled for her skill on some trash mob.
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