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dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
January 11 2015 10:04 GMT
#2161
So I just found out something interesting for anyone that likes to reroll accounts. This only works for iOS afaik but you can skip the scripted tutorial (the dungeons are still there to clear for stones). This speeds up the rerolling process fairly substantially, since you're not forced to press ok on a dozen dialogue boxes, add the carbuncle to your team, nor fuse the shynee to your starter dragon. Additionally, you can open your mail for your event stone so you can even do 1 less dungeon before you roll.

Basically once the account is created, before you enter the first dungeon, close the app and delete the data048.bin and data056.bin files. Restart the app, and the game will ask you if you want to restore your data from the cloud backup. Say yes, and it'll load you back into the game, sans the tutorial. The extra benefit of this is, you can roll outside of the regular rem with your first 5 stones. My only regret is I didn't find this out before Christmas rem was over..

Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 11 2015 19:43 GMT
#2162
On January 11 2015 13:45 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 17:01 Jayme wrote:
On January 09 2015 11:22 gobbledydook wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:45 Jayme wrote:
On January 09 2015 01:43 -Zoda- wrote:
On January 08 2015 21:50 jtype wrote:
Doesn't Angelit have the same skill? Or am I thinking of something else?

Nah, Angelit is Michael's skillup. Devilit is Metatron's skill though !

On January 08 2015 23:23 gobbledydook wrote:
Have you seen the burst with a neph/haku/hanzo/dmeta/persephone/neph team...you easily hit 1mil damage per character

Yeah Nephtys' skill is orb enhance + dark enhance, it's really powerful actually ! Her awokens are a bit meh however.


Angelit is Raphael's skillup(Currently, if the skill rotation comes around it'll change to L.Kali for awhile) not Michael's or Unicorn's.

Also that 1 million damage per character seems nice, and really, it is!...until you realize that that team is full REM and when you apply that to other teams you get similar if not far higher damage with better general utility. My L.Meta burst hits for nearly 1.7 per character and my big Kirin combos also hit that with regularity...hell even my B Sonia bursts also eclipse 1 million for everyone.

Burst isn't everything and with so many mini bosses slamming jammers/poisons/blinds down your throat I would prefer a different leader with awakenings that aren't bad. Nephthys isn't a bad leader, far from it, I just don't really see the SUPER HYPE she gets. Kirin has better awakenings and sustained damage for instance.

She just seems kind of medicore to me. Her awakenings just...ugh. I can't get passed them.

Note that this may go out of the window if they buff orb enhance...I can't make any predictions after that.


Except with a LMeta team you can't do anything when you get hit below 50%, and with Kirin you are dependent on actually having fire, water and wood orbs, and not too many of them at that. And if you want to discuss B Sonia, she is the no. 1 overpowered team in P&D so there's no point comparing anything to B Sonia...

In any case I prefer Hathor, which I think is outrageous, you can just stall forever until you use your 20.25x power to blow stuff up when you want to.


L. Meta has an active on a ridiculously short cool down that pretty much assures that you get above 50‰ when you need to. Also since the recent hp buff meta teams are sitting at like 23k hp with some plus eggs... Which allows them to take hits much more easily and stay above the threshold. L meta is super super solid now after that hp buff.

Kirin and her 25x brethren can be played in a fashion that really minimizes orb trolling to the extent that you can get a 25x almost every board. It requires clearing excess and as such the skill to 6 combo average but I wouldn't recommend a 25x orb specific spike for a new person anyway.

I can definitely see use is Hathor. 20.25x is very respectable.


One of the biggest weaknesses of LMeta teams is that you simply don't get many row enhances with L-rcv teammates. You get loads of dark-types with 2 row enhances...


With the introduction of chibi valk, super ultimate valk, and l.kali you can focus on tpa anyway unless you're going the Raphael route which has 3 row enhances and that's enough for the big wombo combo. I certainly agree that when it comes to mythical level dungeons lmeta teams can have damage problems but that is getting better. I don't really use l meta for most descends... She's my farming team.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
January 12 2015 01:33 GMT
#2163
On January 12 2015 04:43 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 13:45 gobbledydook wrote:
On January 09 2015 17:01 Jayme wrote:
On January 09 2015 11:22 gobbledydook wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:45 Jayme wrote:
On January 09 2015 01:43 -Zoda- wrote:
On January 08 2015 21:50 jtype wrote:
Doesn't Angelit have the same skill? Or am I thinking of something else?

Nah, Angelit is Michael's skillup. Devilit is Metatron's skill though !

On January 08 2015 23:23 gobbledydook wrote:
Have you seen the burst with a neph/haku/hanzo/dmeta/persephone/neph team...you easily hit 1mil damage per character

Yeah Nephtys' skill is orb enhance + dark enhance, it's really powerful actually ! Her awokens are a bit meh however.


Angelit is Raphael's skillup(Currently, if the skill rotation comes around it'll change to L.Kali for awhile) not Michael's or Unicorn's.

Also that 1 million damage per character seems nice, and really, it is!...until you realize that that team is full REM and when you apply that to other teams you get similar if not far higher damage with better general utility. My L.Meta burst hits for nearly 1.7 per character and my big Kirin combos also hit that with regularity...hell even my B Sonia bursts also eclipse 1 million for everyone.

Burst isn't everything and with so many mini bosses slamming jammers/poisons/blinds down your throat I would prefer a different leader with awakenings that aren't bad. Nephthys isn't a bad leader, far from it, I just don't really see the SUPER HYPE she gets. Kirin has better awakenings and sustained damage for instance.

She just seems kind of medicore to me. Her awakenings just...ugh. I can't get passed them.

Note that this may go out of the window if they buff orb enhance...I can't make any predictions after that.


Except with a LMeta team you can't do anything when you get hit below 50%, and with Kirin you are dependent on actually having fire, water and wood orbs, and not too many of them at that. And if you want to discuss B Sonia, she is the no. 1 overpowered team in P&D so there's no point comparing anything to B Sonia...

In any case I prefer Hathor, which I think is outrageous, you can just stall forever until you use your 20.25x power to blow stuff up when you want to.


L. Meta has an active on a ridiculously short cool down that pretty much assures that you get above 50‰ when you need to. Also since the recent hp buff meta teams are sitting at like 23k hp with some plus eggs... Which allows them to take hits much more easily and stay above the threshold. L meta is super super solid now after that hp buff.

Kirin and her 25x brethren can be played in a fashion that really minimizes orb trolling to the extent that you can get a 25x almost every board. It requires clearing excess and as such the skill to 6 combo average but I wouldn't recommend a 25x orb specific spike for a new person anyway.

I can definitely see use is Hathor. 20.25x is very respectable.


One of the biggest weaknesses of LMeta teams is that you simply don't get many row enhances with L-rcv teammates. You get loads of dark-types with 2 row enhances...


With the introduction of chibi valk, super ultimate valk, and l.kali you can focus on tpa anyway unless you're going the Raphael route which has 3 row enhances and that's enough for the big wombo combo. I certainly agree that when it comes to mythical level dungeons lmeta teams can have damage problems but that is getting better. I don't really use l meta for most descends... She's my farming team.


It's not that Lmeta is bad or anything, it's that if you're going for the perfect Lmeta team, there are teams that do more damage with the same safety. Like BSonia, or RSonia/Lubu...
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 04:34:06
January 12 2015 04:22 GMT
#2164
did the dragon dungeon for light and fire for the first time today and got some extra stones so I rolled once on the REM. got red valk!

edit: btw whats the easiest way to get tamadras?
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dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
January 12 2015 05:26 GMT
#2165
Tamadra guerilla. Since you have 100 stamina, 1 stone = approximately 6 baby tamadra. To put that into perspective, roll 1 less time on rem and you get around 30 baby tamadras, with a good shot at grabbing 1 or 2 regular tamadras as well. If you play smartly and time a rank up around the guerilla, then you get even more, etc.

If you don't have a good backlog of light dublit, I would recommend just feeding baby tamadras for the awakening chance and not bother evolving, seeing as you can spend less stamina farming more baby tamadras than it would take to farm all the evo materials to evolve every one of them.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
January 12 2015 06:29 GMT
#2166
On January 12 2015 13:22 jinyung2 wrote:
did the dragon dungeon for light and fire for the first time today and got some extra stones so I rolled once on the REM. got red valk!

edit: btw whats the easiest way to get tamadras?

A reminder that rolling outside of godfest is generally a terrible fucking idea.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 06:51:47
January 12 2015 06:51 GMT
#2167
On January 12 2015 15:29 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 13:22 jinyung2 wrote:
did the dragon dungeon for light and fire for the first time today and got some extra stones so I rolled once on the REM. got red valk!

edit: btw whats the easiest way to get tamadras?

A reminder that rolling outside of godfest is generally a terrible fucking idea.


Oftentimes rolling inside of godfest is also a terrible fucking idea.

Too many people have loads of gods they never use and then they complain they can't beat mythicals because they never used their stones to train up their teams.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
January 12 2015 09:31 GMT
#2168
Not sure if I hit a bad streak of rng, but I just ran door of light and shadow about 12 or 13 times and only got 3 +eggs.. ouch. I was getting way better rates running kotg just earlier too... (about 1 + every 2-3 runs)
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 09:49:24
January 12 2015 09:48 GMT
#2169
On January 12 2015 15:51 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 15:29 Spazer wrote:
On January 12 2015 13:22 jinyung2 wrote:
did the dragon dungeon for light and fire for the first time today and got some extra stones so I rolled once on the REM. got red valk!

edit: btw whats the easiest way to get tamadras?

A reminder that rolling outside of godfest is generally a terrible fucking idea.


Oftentimes rolling inside of godfest is also a terrible fucking idea.

Too many people have loads of gods they never use and then they complain they can't beat mythicals because they never used their stones to train up their teams.


This is honestly pretty true.

Roll in a godfest until you get like 2-3 leads that are mythical descend worthy as well as some of their subs and do yourself a huge favor and don't roll until you've maxed those teams out.

I haven't rolled since players choicefest (Special REM not withstanding...I did need the ludicrously overpowered chibi valk after all) because I was noticing a good overflow and I won't roll until my BSonia, GSonia, Kirin, Leilan, and GZL teams are fully maxed out and good to go...and that's REALLY hard for me because I want a freaking Haku and a D.Meta so bad it hurts sometimes. Especially Haku...I have 2 freaking Karins and 2 Kirins and 1 each of Leilan and Genbu but ZERO HAKUS.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 12 2015 09:54 GMT
#2170
I'd trade 1 of my hakus for a Sun quan :/
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
January 12 2015 11:35 GMT
#2171
On January 12 2015 15:51 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 15:29 Spazer wrote:
On January 12 2015 13:22 jinyung2 wrote:
did the dragon dungeon for light and fire for the first time today and got some extra stones so I rolled once on the REM. got red valk!

edit: btw whats the easiest way to get tamadras?

A reminder that rolling outside of godfest is generally a terrible fucking idea.


Oftentimes rolling inside of godfest is also a terrible fucking idea.

Too many people have loads of gods they never use and then they complain they can't beat mythicals because they never used their stones to train up their teams.


Agree, but I'm addicted to the collector side of the game, so I just want all of the waifus.

@jinyung2 Once you're able to farm thursday/friday mythical (and you will eventually for Ronia skillups) you'll start getting a lot of Tamadras. You shouldn't need to do Tamadra Village after that. But man...JP has it easy...free daily Tamas in almost every event. I think I have ~30 in my box right now.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
January 12 2015 12:44 GMT
#2172
On January 12 2015 14:26 dkpl wrote:
Tamadra guerilla. Since you have 100 stamina, 1 stone = approximately 6 baby tamadra. To put that into perspective, roll 1 less time on rem and you get around 30 baby tamadras, with a good shot at grabbing 1 or 2 regular tamadras as well. If you play smartly and time a rank up around the guerilla, then you get even more, etc.

If you don't have a good backlog of light dublit, I would recommend just feeding baby tamadras for the awakening chance and not bother evolving, seeing as you can spend less stamina farming more baby tamadras than it would take to farm all the evo materials to evolve every one of them.


I have around.. 10ish dublits saved up so thats good, id much rather grind out the dungeon for the rest of the materials then feed babies. I heard the chance is quite low

On January 12 2015 15:51 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 15:29 Spazer wrote:
On January 12 2015 13:22 jinyung2 wrote:
did the dragon dungeon for light and fire for the first time today and got some extra stones so I rolled once on the REM. got red valk!

edit: btw whats the easiest way to get tamadras?

A reminder that rolling outside of godfest is generally a terrible fucking idea.


Oftentimes rolling inside of godfest is also a terrible fucking idea.

Too many people have loads of gods they never use and then they complain they can't beat mythicals because they never used their stones to train up their teams.


I just happened to see that it was midnight gaia and I sorta do need a hanzo/gryps/maybe persephone for a potential D. Meta team or a yomi/lubu/possibly fa luci? for RA and ronia so I went for the roll haha I guess I got really lucky on the gold egg pull?

I kinda feel this way too but then again I also play RA and I don't really have the best subs for him so any gold pull out of godfest might give me a decent sub to use. but atm I feel like I have a decent team on ronia just need the level ups, and I do also have some decent subs/team ideas in mind that I also need to train up so I'm much rather leaning towards stoning on super kings or tamadras than rolling.

But it's also PAD and when godfest rolls around my brani tells me to "use the stones"
Argentina
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
January 12 2015 16:05 GMT
#2173
There's literally always a gala around. Those regular gala are also only 1.5x rates I think so they're still not worth rolling outside of a godfest. So yeah, the fact you got a gold egg outside of the godfest is very very lucky. Not to mention you are entirely missing out on godfest exclusives.




I ran more tower of light and shadow this morning and have gotten exactly 0 more + eggs This is about 20 runs in total, and I've only gotten 3 + eggs. I'm so glad I got a lot yesterday from kotg already lol.. I mean, I've even picked up two light dublits ~_~ I know I've gotten better rates before too, but I'm not sure if I'm currently in an unlucky streak of luck, or I had a lucky streak last time :|
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 18:21:43
January 12 2015 18:21 GMT
#2174
I did maybe six runs of door, got maybe 3 +eggs. Then I got bored and spammed mechdragons and got 3 more.
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rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
January 12 2015 18:48 GMT
#2175
The point of 5x techs on mondays is time efficiency for +eggs, not stamina efficiency. Due to the rank exp difference KoG is more stamina efficient for +eggs compared to FT4 until almost rank 400.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
January 12 2015 18:54 GMT
#2176
Yeah I'm coming to the conclusion 5x egg rates means nothing to me. Kotg gives me way more +eggs due to all the rank ups so there's no way in hell I'm going to stone technicals on 5x... I'm considering switching to running mech dragons since I haven't actually finished those yet, and I eventually want a hadar I guess.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
January 12 2015 21:02 GMT
#2177
I've been running mechdragons the whole event so far. It's pretty nice actually. The drop rate is quite high (7 fodder or more on most runs). On 5x tech you get a fair number of +eggs though it's likely not stamina efficient. But it's super fast and helps me burn through my stamina surplus, so that's fine. For me, the main benefit is that the fodder gives quite a lot of xp.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 01:01:24
January 13 2015 00:55 GMT
#2178
Running mech during 5x isn't bad at all and it's worth around 70k fodder experience and 20k rank experience. The more I play b Sonia the more I'm convinced that ronia isn't the op one... The blue one is... And she doesn't even have her ultimate evolution yet. Granted her best subs are heavy in the rem department but the Karin ultimate and Hermes Ultimate pushed her over the edge.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
January 13 2015 03:27 GMT
#2179
Ran two mech dragons, got 5+ eggs, I don't even


Unfortunately one of them is a on one of the mech dragons i plan to fuse for hadar, so I'm not sure if I want to run it again later for a non plus version or not, lol.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
January 13 2015 03:33 GMT
#2180
On January 13 2015 12:27 dkpl wrote:
Ran two mech dragons, got 5+ eggs, I don't even


Unfortunately one of them is a on one of the mech dragons i plan to fuse for hadar, so I'm not sure if I want to run it again later for a non plus version or not, lol.

Might as well? Stamina is cheap, and mechdragon drops are guaranteed even when it's not Monday.
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