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Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 04:22:07
June 11 2013 04:18 GMT
#2341
On June 11 2013 13:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Problem with that is what legal contracts, frameworks has MS already committed to in order to do this with the Xbox One just to go back and change everything in less 6 months before launch.



Well they cannot keep going the rate they are either. They tried changing there DRM stance by saying it's up to the publishers to decide, which is a honest half-assed way of dealing with it.

24-hour log-in can change if MS is willing. All of these main points can change if MS is willing to do so ASAP. After watching Sony's E3 presentation, how can they even say they will be ok at this point? They cannot.

I love my 360 and I am dumbfounded to see how the hell MS can make so many blunders already with the One so early on.
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andeh
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States904 Posts
June 11 2013 04:22 GMT
#2342
What does a world without microsoft look like?
Just think about what they're released in the last year: windows 8, windows surface, and xbone. All can be considered flops (xbone not for certain yet, but after sony meeting...)

But, for anyone who knows anything, they knows that microsofts biggest money maker is their office suite. Which survived the ribbon gui switch of 2007. So the entire company isn't down and out yet.

How many more flops can a single company have? I think valve's steambox/linux might become more necessary much sooner than people are considering.
Dozle
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada147 Posts
June 11 2013 04:22 GMT
#2343
Sony won.

Its over.

+ Show Spoiler +
I am so happy and excited I almost cried
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
June 11 2013 04:26 GMT
#2344
Boom headshot.
Useless wet fish.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12391 Posts
June 11 2013 04:26 GMT
#2345
some nice games from PS4, hoping to see some japanese games later as well. (other than FF)
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takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 04:30:14
June 11 2013 04:28 GMT
#2346
On June 11 2013 13:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Problem with that is what legal contracts, frameworks has MS already committed to in order to do this with the Xbox One just to go back and change everything in less 6 months before launch.

Well I have to give them the benefit of the doubt from a business stand point and hope they didn't paint themselves into a corner contractually or hardware/software wise in that respect. Fact is, Sony did gain a ton of ground today. The big issue to me wasn't the always online stuff or the used game stuff though, it was the games themselves. I don't have a clear picture of what exact exclusives XBox will have. Its not exactly clear on Sony's end either but they did a much better job imo on giving info on it. Graphics wise, I saw no difference.

Again, MS and even, to a lesser extent, Sony need to clarify things a bit better in the near future. I would like to see the specs and I would like to know exactly what exclusives line up they both have. MS needs to completely, once and for all, clear up the whole DRM issue as well, they have been way to furtive in explaining it which probably isn't a good sign.

But as I and some others have already said, neither one is going to die anytime soon. They have too much money and have enough going for them either way to survive and most likely thrive. All of this "Xbone is Xboxdone" stuff is ridiculous.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
June 11 2013 04:30 GMT
#2347
PS4 is going to Rape the xbox. They will destroy them in every possible way. The exclusives were simply not enough, not good enough and not soon enough. Only downside for the ps4 is that shitty controller. Once I find an xbox controller subsitute for the ps4 I am all over that.


That e3 conference was not enough. Stock hasn't moved yet though. We'll see tomorrow. Such a pity after doing so well with xbox360
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 11 2013 04:31 GMT
#2348
http://www.xboxdone.com
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 04:50:42
June 11 2013 04:39 GMT
#2349
On June 11 2013 12:46 ticklishmusic wrote:


Ouch.

I didn't know you could win E3, but Sony did.


LMAO so hard.

XBOWNED
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 04:47:02
June 11 2013 04:44 GMT
#2350
Looks like PS4 is the superior choice over XBox One, and like someone already stated previously:
On June 11 2013 13:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The sad part, is the ps4 isn't amazing, it's just that the xbox one sucks.

Which is the sad truth. PS4 is not the superior choice because it's so damn good but because Xbox One is so freaking horrible.

Summary for the lazy people, (like me)

Xbox
inferior hardware spec, No backward compatibility, 25% more expensive.

PS4
Big hardware superiority, Backward compatibility, ability to play used game and lend game, 25% less expensive.
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.AK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States561 Posts
June 11 2013 04:51 GMT
#2351
Forgot the always on part which probably isn't a huge deal for most places but I live in a very rural area where a lot of people have sub 1 MB connections and the internet is spotty as all hell. For those people wanting to game the xbox is pretty much unavailable to them.
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Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
June 11 2013 04:53 GMT
#2352
On June 11 2013 12:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA&feature=share

Ouch.

I didn't know you could win E3, but Sony did.

Damn. 90k likes in a couple hours O_o
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 04:59:27
June 11 2013 04:58 GMT
#2353
On June 11 2013 13:44 Integra wrote:
Looks like PS4 is the superior choice over XBox One, and like someone already stated previously:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 13:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The sad part, is the ps4 isn't amazing, it's just that the xbox one sucks.

Which is the sad truth. PS4 is not the superior choice because it's so damn good but because Xbox One is so freaking horrible.

Summary for the lazy people, (like me)

Xbox
inferior hardware spec, No backward compatibility, 25% more expensive.

PS4
Big hardware superiority, Backward compatibility, ability to play used game and lend game, 25% less expensive.

Is this factual? Not being sarcastic, I actually would like to see the specs and haven't seen anywhere that says that PS4 is better than Xbox One hardware wise.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
June 11 2013 04:59 GMT
#2354
On June 11 2013 13:58 takingbackoj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 13:44 Integra wrote:
Looks like PS4 is the superior choice over XBox One, and like someone already stated previously:
On June 11 2013 13:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The sad part, is the ps4 isn't amazing, it's just that the xbox one sucks.

Which is the sad truth. PS4 is not the superior choice because it's so damn good but because Xbox One is so freaking horrible.

Summary for the lazy people, (like me)

Xbox
inferior hardware spec, No backward compatibility, 25% more expensive.

PS4
Big hardware superiority, Backward compatibility, ability to play used game and lend game, 25% less expensive.

Is this factual? Not being sarcastic, I actually would like to see the specs.


I know the specs for both machines have been posted in this thread and the PS4 does indeed have better hardware overall.
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takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
June 11 2013 04:59 GMT
#2355
On June 11 2013 13:59 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 13:58 takingbackoj wrote:
On June 11 2013 13:44 Integra wrote:
Looks like PS4 is the superior choice over XBox One, and like someone already stated previously:
On June 11 2013 13:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The sad part, is the ps4 isn't amazing, it's just that the xbox one sucks.

Which is the sad truth. PS4 is not the superior choice because it's so damn good but because Xbox One is so freaking horrible.

Summary for the lazy people, (like me)

Xbox
inferior hardware spec, No backward compatibility, 25% more expensive.

PS4
Big hardware superiority, Backward compatibility, ability to play used game and lend game, 25% less expensive.

Is this factual? Not being sarcastic, I actually would like to see the specs.


I know the specs for both machines have been posted in this thread and the PS4 does indeed have better hardware overall.

I haven't seen them posted in this thread or anywhere else.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
June 11 2013 05:00 GMT
#2356
On June 11 2013 13:58 takingbackoj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 13:44 Integra wrote:
Looks like PS4 is the superior choice over XBox One, and like someone already stated previously:
On June 11 2013 13:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The sad part, is the ps4 isn't amazing, it's just that the xbox one sucks.

Which is the sad truth. PS4 is not the superior choice because it's so damn good but because Xbox One is so freaking horrible.

Summary for the lazy people, (like me)

Xbox
inferior hardware spec, No backward compatibility, 25% more expensive.

PS4
Big hardware superiority, Backward compatibility, ability to play used game and lend game, 25% less expensive.

Is this factual? Not being sarcastic, I actually would like to see the specs and haven't seen anywhere that says that PS4 is better than Xbox One hardware wise.


The hardware specs are largely irrelevant. Both consoles are getting the same chips, and even then, cross-platform games will (necessarily) perform similar on the two consoles.
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 05:03:32
June 11 2013 05:02 GMT
#2357
On June 11 2013 14:00 Kambing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 13:58 takingbackoj wrote:
On June 11 2013 13:44 Integra wrote:
Looks like PS4 is the superior choice over XBox One, and like someone already stated previously:
On June 11 2013 13:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The sad part, is the ps4 isn't amazing, it's just that the xbox one sucks.

Which is the sad truth. PS4 is not the superior choice because it's so damn good but because Xbox One is so freaking horrible.

Summary for the lazy people, (like me)

Xbox
inferior hardware spec, No backward compatibility, 25% more expensive.

PS4
Big hardware superiority, Backward compatibility, ability to play used game and lend game, 25% less expensive.

Is this factual? Not being sarcastic, I actually would like to see the specs and haven't seen anywhere that says that PS4 is better than Xbox One hardware wise.


The hardware specs are largely irrelevant. Both consoles are getting the same chips, and even then, cross-platform games will (necessarily) perform similar on the two consoles.

Yeah most likely but I see people repeating that the hardware is inferior on Xbox one yet I haven't seen any evidence of either one being better than the other.

My main concern is whether the $100 price difference is due solely to that motion sensor garbage or not.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
June 11 2013 05:03 GMT
#2358
On June 11 2013 13:58 takingbackoj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 13:44 Integra wrote:
Looks like PS4 is the superior choice over XBox One, and like someone already stated previously:
On June 11 2013 13:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The sad part, is the ps4 isn't amazing, it's just that the xbox one sucks.

Which is the sad truth. PS4 is not the superior choice because it's so damn good but because Xbox One is so freaking horrible.

Summary for the lazy people, (like me)

Xbox
inferior hardware spec, No backward compatibility, 25% more expensive.

PS4
Big hardware superiority, Backward compatibility, ability to play used game and lend game, 25% less expensive.

Is this factual? Not being sarcastic, I actually would like to see the specs and haven't seen anywhere that says that PS4 is better than Xbox One hardware wise.

Doesn't it have 8 gigs of ram vs. XBOne's 4?
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 11 2013 05:03 GMT
#2359
On June 11 2013 14:03 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 13:58 takingbackoj wrote:
On June 11 2013 13:44 Integra wrote:
Looks like PS4 is the superior choice over XBox One, and like someone already stated previously:
On June 11 2013 13:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The sad part, is the ps4 isn't amazing, it's just that the xbox one sucks.

Which is the sad truth. PS4 is not the superior choice because it's so damn good but because Xbox One is so freaking horrible.

Summary for the lazy people, (like me)

Xbox
inferior hardware spec, No backward compatibility, 25% more expensive.

PS4
Big hardware superiority, Backward compatibility, ability to play used game and lend game, 25% less expensive.

Is this factual? Not being sarcastic, I actually would like to see the specs and haven't seen anywhere that says that PS4 is better than Xbox One hardware wise.

Doesn't it have 8 gigs of ram vs. XBOne's 4?

They both have 8.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
June 11 2013 05:04 GMT
#2360
On June 11 2013 14:03 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 14:03 dabom88 wrote:
On June 11 2013 13:58 takingbackoj wrote:
On June 11 2013 13:44 Integra wrote:
Looks like PS4 is the superior choice over XBox One, and like someone already stated previously:
On June 11 2013 13:14 wei2coolman wrote:
The sad part, is the ps4 isn't amazing, it's just that the xbox one sucks.

Which is the sad truth. PS4 is not the superior choice because it's so damn good but because Xbox One is so freaking horrible.

Summary for the lazy people, (like me)

Xbox
inferior hardware spec, No backward compatibility, 25% more expensive.

PS4
Big hardware superiority, Backward compatibility, ability to play used game and lend game, 25% less expensive.

Is this factual? Not being sarcastic, I actually would like to see the specs and haven't seen anywhere that says that PS4 is better than Xbox One hardware wise.

Doesn't it have 8 gigs of ram vs. XBOne's 4?

They both have 8.

Ah, k, I was misinformed, thanks.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
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