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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 11 2013 03:46 GMT
#2321


Ouch.

I didn't know you could win E3, but Sony did.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
June 11 2013 03:47 GMT
#2322
On June 11 2013 12:34 Chrispy wrote:
Sony just ended Microsoft's venture into the game console world, me thinks.

Microsoft is ending its own venture, Sony didn't do anything special and just played it safe, which is great. Microsoft made so many retarded decisions you end up calling it a lost cause, like Blizzard did with diablo 3 (just mentioning that game makes me sick)
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 11 2013 03:49 GMT
#2323
On June 11 2013 12:47 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 12:34 Chrispy wrote:
Sony just ended Microsoft's venture into the game console world, me thinks.

Microsoft is ending its own venture, Sony didn't do anything special and just played it safe, which is great. Microsoft made so many retarded decisions you end up calling it a lost cause, like Blizzard did with diablo 3 (just mentioning that game makes me sick)

I hate to say this but Microsoft has deep pockets full of money and insane fans and casuals who'll buy the console having never heard anything about it.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
June 11 2013 03:51 GMT
#2324
On June 11 2013 12:47 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 12:34 Chrispy wrote:
Sony just ended Microsoft's venture into the game console world, me thinks.

Microsoft is ending its own venture, Sony didn't do anything special and just played it safe, which is great. Microsoft made so many retarded decisions you end up calling it a lost cause, like Blizzard did with diablo 3 (just mentioning that game makes me sick)

Yeah honestly. Imagine if Microsoft didn't announce all of these bullshit "features". Sony would look silly with their main point being "YOU CAN TRADE OUR GAMES" and "YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ALWAYS ON."

After watching the xbox reveal I was hoping that Sony would capitalize on microsoft's incompetence, but they delivered harder than I could imagine.
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Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 03:52:25
June 11 2013 03:51 GMT
#2325
Wow that ad... LOL. That must smart. Console wars...I think every console has its pros and cons. I don't like that a console is watching me though. If I am not careful, I would get that enough on my PC. Why would a gaming console need to spy on me? >.> I just want to play the game. Also, no used games, that'll bite you Microsoft.

Sony no doubt has the upper hand right now, no matter how it looks, if you want to play the war.
I post only when my brain works.
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
June 11 2013 03:51 GMT
#2326
On June 11 2013 12:49 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 12:47 Assault_1 wrote:
On June 11 2013 12:34 Chrispy wrote:
Sony just ended Microsoft's venture into the game console world, me thinks.

Microsoft is ending its own venture, Sony didn't do anything special and just played it safe, which is great. Microsoft made so many retarded decisions you end up calling it a lost cause, like Blizzard did with diablo 3 (just mentioning that game makes me sick)

I hate to say this but Microsoft has deep pockets full of money and insane fans and casuals who'll buy the console having never heard anything about it.

Another good point. This whole "x console lost and will now die" is just over excitement.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 03:57:00
June 11 2013 03:53 GMT
#2327
On June 11 2013 12:43 takingbackoj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 12:39 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On June 11 2013 12:21 takingbackoj wrote:
On June 11 2013 12:19 Resilient wrote:
Microsoft needs to seriously rework their ideals and announced plans for the new XBox. Only people going to buy that over PS4 are fanatical fans now. Sony will absolutely bash the XBox to a pulp if things stay as they are.

I will buy them both as will plenty of others. This is a ridiculous over reaction. They will both continue to survive as per the norm.

I would like to see exactly why the X Box is priced $100 more. I wonder if its solely due to the Kinect being included or not. It would be nice to see some specs.


"Plenty of others"? How privileged are you?

The vast, vast, vast majority of buyers will own one gaming console per generation, and the vast majority of buyers are also affected and/or care about things like "always online" and the used game fiasco.

Im not that privileged. Im a single male in the military making less than a lot of people. But I get paid enough to where I can afford to spend a couple hundred bucks a few times a year.

I play games all the time with co workers, its an easy way to hang out with new people in the military and most of us have both and plan on buying both.


Ah, the bold part explains it. Even assuming that you aren't living on base/having food paid for you/etc. like many military personnel do, you still have a lot of disposable income because of the fact that you have no family, you have a lot of benefits due to the fact that you're military, you don't have as many things to spend it on as your average civilian, and you get additional allowances/pay on top of your base salary.

I hate to say this but Microsoft has deep pockets full of money and insane fans and casuals who'll buy the console having never heard anything about it.


The fanboys will stick around. However, the people that will just up and buy the XBone without any research or knowledge beforehand are probably families, and a $500 price tag will make them turn right around and look at that shiny PS4 for $100 less. Not only this, but the XB1 won't have the advantage that the 360 had; the PS4 will come out right around the same time, so the XB1 won't have a hegemony on word-of-mouth as the "go-to gaming system". People will know the PS4 like they knew the PS2.

Even if MS has the pockets to keep the XBone afloat, the point is that they will still be hemorrhaging money to keep it afloat, and they will be forced to change their practices if they want to stay in the market.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Postman
Profile Joined July 2010
United States269 Posts
June 11 2013 03:54 GMT
#2328
I think we'll be seeing another Sony dominant generation, unless Microsoft back tracks on some of the more...consumer unfriendly decisions they've been making. How about tossing us a kinect-free variant and dropping the price to match the PS4 to start?
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
June 11 2013 03:55 GMT
#2329
what if it was like

sony: yo, ms, wanna do this DRM thingy and limit used games?
ms: wont that piss off some customers? but i see what you mean, it will be more profitable.
sony: exactly! we're still behind schedule though so we'll make our announcements little later if you dont mind
ms: no problem, we'll get the people ready
sony: great! (SUCKA!)
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s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 04:01:49
June 11 2013 04:00 GMT
#2330
Now that Sony unvailed that there's no new DRM i'm wondering why MS did so ? Can't be publisher enforced if Sony doesn't do it since i sincerly doubt Sony would fuck over publishers like that . Do you really think they chickened out of a deal that was planned ? That would piss of people MAJORLY.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 11 2013 04:01 GMT
#2331
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 04:07:36
June 11 2013 04:05 GMT
#2332
Sony will be great this gen.

If MS doesn't change their stance on DRM and the log-in 24 thing. They will NOT win vs the PS4. Their launch line-up already lags behind the PS4. Sony has more then on 1 occasion said they are supporting the gamers. Where the MS and the One focused first on entertainment first, before backtracking to the gamers they have already pissed off.

Honestly, if MS doesn't release a statement and CHANGE their stance on some issues, they will not beat the PS4 in any region. PS3 still outsells the 360 in Japan. PS4 will beat the XBox One in Japan next gen. If the PS4 manages to out sell the One in the States, MS will start kicking themselves for saying what they said.

It isn't too late for Microsoft to change what they said, it honestly isn't. But with what Sony did in their show case @ E3, the time is getting close to that point where they will never be able to catch up unless something drastically changes.

PS4 is less expensive at launch, their launch titles are clearly better. Sony is paying attention to the core gamers that XBox One has pissed off. They aren't going around saying eventually it will change, Sony said straight up, no DRM and we support used games. I honestly think MS is just looking at demographics and basing their decisions on that. Which is wrong. Especially that dude that resigned saying "What's the big deal about always online?"

After ALL that has happened this year with Always Online games, can they honestly say that with a straight face? Are you kidding me? Out of the 100% I'm on my consoles. (360 and PS3), I spent well over 95% on the 360 and I'm WAY more excited about the PS4 then the One. (After the fact that my PS3 has been downgraded into my Blu-Ray player for my room.)

Edit: Grammar :p
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 04:10:29
June 11 2013 04:08 GMT
#2333
On June 11 2013 13:05 Seraphic wrote:
Sony will be great this gen.

If MS doesn't change their stance on DRM and the log-in 24 thing. They will NOT win vs the PS4. Their launch line-up already lags behind the PS4. Sony has more then on 1 occasion said they are supporting the gamers. Where the MS and the One focused first on entertainment first, before backtracking to the gamers they have already pissed off.

Honestly, if MS doesn't release a statement and CHANGE their stance on some issues, they will not beat the PS4 in any region. PS3 still outsells the 360 in Japan. PS4 will be the XBox One in Japan next gen. If the PS4 manages to out sell the One in the States, MS will start kicking themselves for saying what they said.

It isn't too late for Microsoft to change what they said, it honestly isn't. But with what Sony did in their show case @ E3, the time is getting close to that point where they will never be able to catch up unless something drastically changes.

PS4 is less expensive at launch, their launch titles are clearly better. Sony is paying attention to the core gamers that XBox One has pissed off. They aren't going around saying eventually it will change, Sony said straight up, no DRM and we support used games. I honestly think MS is just looking at demographics and basing their decisions on that. Which is wrong. Especially that dude that resigned saying "What's the big deal about always online?"

After ALL that has happened this year with Always Online games, can they honestly say that with a straight face? Are you kidding me? Out of the 100% I'm on my consoles. (360 and PS3), I spent well over 95% on the 360 and I'm WAY more excited about the PS4 then the One. (After the fact that my PS3 has been downgraded into my Blu-Ray player for my room.)


Actually, the PS3 has outsold the 360 everywhere except the U.S. and has (possibly, since stats are sketchy at this point) outsold it overall at this point.

I honestly don't think that the XBox will go the way of the Sega, but I think the XB1 is going to flop hard, and everyone one of you should be rooting for this as well. Yes, we say, "Competition is good!", and that's exactly what is happening. If the XB1 flops, then it will be a defeat for always offline and DRM (think about what individual developers will see?), a victory for the used game industry, and a victory for the consumer by keeping console prices lower for a little bit longer and slowing their inflation.s
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3434 Posts
June 11 2013 04:08 GMT
#2334
If Sony doesn't DESTROY the X-Box One early on in the next-gen war I'll be pissed.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 11 2013 04:08 GMT
#2335
Problem with that is what legal contracts, frameworks has MS already committed to in order to do this with the Xbox One just to go back and change everything in less 6 months before launch.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
June 11 2013 04:09 GMT
#2336
Now if only there was a way to use the Xbox controller on the PS4...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 11 2013 04:14 GMT
#2337
The sad part, is the ps4 isn't amazing, it's just that the xbox one sucks.
liftlift > tsm
unteqair
Profile Joined November 2011
United States308 Posts
June 11 2013 04:15 GMT
#2338
On June 11 2013 13:08 True_Spike wrote:
If Sony doesn't DESTROY the X-Box One early on in the next-gen war I'll be pissed.

Why? I don't understand the emotional stake.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 11 2013 04:17 GMT
#2339
So release when?
Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
June 11 2013 04:18 GMT
#2340
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