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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 19:20:49
June 10 2013 19:19 GMT
#2161
On June 11 2013 04:14 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:12 mikkmagro wrote:
500 euros is plain silly. Why does it have to be so much more expensive outside the US? Not everyone in Europe has Scandinavian pay checks. There is no huge justifiable leap in technology as in the last generation of consoles for that price tag.

With that said, I'll still probably pay 500 euros for a PS4.


http://www.dvice.com/2013-5-27/xbox-one-technically-40-times-more-powerful-xbox-360

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a484049/xbox-one-eight-times-more-powerful-than-360.html

Discusses the power.

This isn't even equating the cloud processing though.


Hi Hitch, can you explain how cloud processing will make the Xbox One so much more powerful. Please show me your working out because I'd love to see it. At the E3, literally the only concrete thing cloud processing provided was in Forza 5. And that's to make the AI better. Nothing to do with physics or graphics or anything. Just the AI, which can be done with any system if you design around it.
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
June 10 2013 19:19 GMT
#2162
Titanfall & Project Spark looked amazing. Anyone denying that is blinded by their hate for the Xbox One. Hopefully, both come out on the PC as well.
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
LazerApe
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden206 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 19:24:35
June 10 2013 19:20 GMT
#2163
On June 11 2013 04:05 Hitch-22 wrote:
Every person who says "won't beat my computer" deserves a quick slap in the face... Show me a computer that runs 8core cpu with as powerful a gpu for 500$ and I'll eat my own words. That's not even fucking including the kinect which in and of itself is easily a couple hundred dollars cut down in price.

"YO I WANT A COMPUTER CONSOLE BRO" ok go fucking spend 1,000 and get one and fuck off... But don't bitch about 500$+ pricetag on a console, its exhausting.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3118_7-6662171-5.html here's an example, likely outdated.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2396974,00.asp 2011 so shift it 2 years and you can imagine the same.



hmm consoles are allmost allways more costeffiecent then a PC, since its closedsytem with defined specs. PC gameing will allmost allways be more cost ineffcient (atleast at the beginning of an generation),but it will also have the latest technology, but ofcourse you need to pay for it.

My only problem with the Xbox1s price tag is the 499$=499 EUR which for me as a swede is a adjusted price of 658,33 dollars

but it hardly matters since i probably wont get one before the first major price cut since the most interesting game i saw for it was BELOW

other slightly interesting stuff where roject spark looked like fun, but im not a very creative person. Forza 5 new take on AI look quite interesting but im not much of car guy, Halo is nice but i can wait for it, Ryse could be kinda cool for a few hours.
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 19:22:27
June 10 2013 19:21 GMT
#2164
On June 11 2013 04:19 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:14 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 mikkmagro wrote:
500 euros is plain silly. Why does it have to be so much more expensive outside the US? Not everyone in Europe has Scandinavian pay checks. There is no huge justifiable leap in technology as in the last generation of consoles for that price tag.

With that said, I'll still probably pay 500 euros for a PS4.


http://www.dvice.com/2013-5-27/xbox-one-technically-40-times-more-powerful-xbox-360

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a484049/xbox-one-eight-times-more-powerful-than-360.html

Discusses the power.

This isn't even equating the cloud processing though.


Hi Hitch, can you explain how cloud processing will make the Xbox One so much more powerful. Please show me your working out because I'd love to see it. At the E3, literally the only thing cloud processing provided was in Forza 5. And that's to make the AI better.


I never once tried to affirm or debunk but you, sir, have blatantly claimed knowledge of its works as if you have some for seen god affirming belief that would debunk it.

Microsoft has made claims it would increase processing over the cloud and rely less on its console processors and I have yet to see a single reason to think Microsoft would fabricate lies with false advertising if it weren't true.

On June 11 2013 04:20 LazerApe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:05 Hitch-22 wrote:
Every person who says "won't beat my computer" deserves a quick slap in the face... Show me a computer that runs 8core cpu with as powerful a gpu for 500$ and I'll eat my own words. That's not even fucking including the kinect which in and of itself is easily a couple hundred dollars cut down in price.

"YO I WANT A COMPUTER CONSOLE BRO" ok go fucking spend 1,000 and get one and fuck off... But don't bitch about 500$+ pricetag on a console, its exhausting.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3118_7-6662171-5.html here's an example, likely outdated.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2396974,00.asp 2011 so shift it 2 years and you can imagine the same.



hmm consoles are allmost allways more costeffiecent then a PC, since its closedsytem with defined specs. PC gameing will allmost allways be more cost ineffcient (atleast at the beginning of an generation),but it will also have the latest technology, but ofcourse you need to pay for it.

My only problem with the Xbox1s price tag is the 499$=499 EUR which for me as a swede is a adjusted price of 658,33 dollars

but it hardly matters since i probably wont get one before the first major price cut since the most interesting game i saw for it was BELOW

In all fairness Scandinavians have a much higher, in terms of USD, paygrade. My friend who lives in Norway makes 30$ an hour part time as a pizza delivery guy, we lived in Res together at Uni.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
June 10 2013 19:21 GMT
#2165
love the guy above me "Lets factor in the price of games for the console to equate its power!" palm to face once again


It's being realistic and putting a different perspective on things. To upgrade a PC anyway for $500

$120 mobo
$40 ram
$180 cpu from microcenter
$260 graphics card

Total $500 investment (likely into the machine you're posting on) will be more powerful than Xone.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 19:22:32
June 10 2013 19:22 GMT
#2166
On June 11 2013 04:05 Hitch-22 wrote:
Every person who says "won't beat my computer" deserves a quick slap in the face... Show me a computer that runs 8core cpu with as powerful a gpu for 500$ and I'll eat my own words. That's not even fucking including the kinect which in and of itself is easily a couple hundred dollars cut down in price.

"YO I WANT A COMPUTER CONSOLE BRO" ok go fucking spend 1,000 and get one and fuck off... But don't bitch about 500$+ pricetag on a console, its exhausting.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3118_7-6662171-5.html here's an example, likely outdated.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2396974,00.asp 2011 so shift it 2 years and you can imagine the same.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/14ZoE
This will run every modern game on high settings. You can also easily drop $100 by getting a cheaper mobo/gpu, and a little more than that with a worse processor. You also can reuse almost all of it. If you already have a case, DVD drive, HDD, and PSU you can drop that cost down to 541.96. DDR3 may also last for a while so you wont have to buy better memory when you upgrade later on down the road knocking off another $70.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 19:24:33
June 10 2013 19:22 GMT
#2167
On June 11 2013 04:16 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:13 amazingxkcd wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:08 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:05 Hitch-22 wrote:
Every person who says "won't beat my computer" deserves a quick slap in the face... Show me a computer that runs 8core cpu with as powerful a gpu for 500$ and I'll eat my own words. That's not even fucking including the kinect which in and of itself is easily a couple hundred dollars cut down in price.

"YO I WANT A COMPUTER CONSOLE BRO" ok go fucking spend 1,000 and get one and fuck off... But don't bitch about 500$+ pricetag on a console, its exhausting.

Why do you care so much?

Because... Why join a discussion if you're going to spew bullshit? It's exhausting reading 100's and 100's of comments on the power of a PC vs console when the console is hundreds of dollars cheaper... It's like those idiots who run around with 2.5k macbook pro and say "Man dat 500 laptop, aint as good as this macbook" and you just wanna slam your face into a desk.

It doesn't exhaust me. Are you new to the internets?
We have our dumb people here.


Indeed, perhaps I've been worn down to far after years and years of stupid comments. "Yo did you know dat da cloud is complete impossible, Xbox totally lying" , "Yo PC so much more powerful bro, buy one!" my head implodes...

Anywho, who thought that Titan game looked sick.


Are you implying you can't build a $500 PC that will massively outperform the Xbox One?


with his current knowledge of computers, he probably can't

lolol

Show me a PC built better then the xbox one that has higher graphic quality, faster processing and better ram for 500$ and I'll conceit defeat on the topic.

love the guy above me "Lets factor in the price of games for the console to equate its power!" palm to face once again


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148543
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130720
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147123

$510

ib4 you bringing up 8 core vs dual core, it matters almost fucking nothing.

EDIT: Derp, forgot power supply and DVROM. Guess it's more like $600. So I concede, not $500, it's $600.

Which is about what it will cost with your tax + subscription fee anyways.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
June 10 2013 19:22 GMT
#2168
On June 11 2013 04:19 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:14 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 mikkmagro wrote:
500 euros is plain silly. Why does it have to be so much more expensive outside the US? Not everyone in Europe has Scandinavian pay checks. There is no huge justifiable leap in technology as in the last generation of consoles for that price tag.

With that said, I'll still probably pay 500 euros for a PS4.


http://www.dvice.com/2013-5-27/xbox-one-technically-40-times-more-powerful-xbox-360

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a484049/xbox-one-eight-times-more-powerful-than-360.html

Discusses the power.

This isn't even equating the cloud processing though.


Hi Hitch, can you explain how cloud processing will make the Xbox One so much more powerful. Please show me your working out because I'd love to see it. At the E3, literally the only concrete thing cloud processing provided was in Forza 5. And that's to make the AI better. Nothing to do with physics or graphics or anything. Just the AI, which can be done with any system if you design around it.


"One example of that might be lighting," he continued. "Let’s say you’re looking at a forest scene and you need to calculate the light coming through the trees, or you’re going through a battlefield and have very dense volumetric fog that’s hugging the terrain. Those things often involve some complicated up-front calculations when you enter that world, but they don’t necessarily have to be updated every frame. Those are perfect candidates for the console to offload that to the cloud—the cloud can do the heavy lifting, because you’ve got the ability to throw multiple devices at the problem in the cloud."

Booty added that things like physics modeling, fluid dynamics, and cloth motion were all prime examples of effects that require a lot of up-front computation that could be handled in the cloud without adding any lag to the actual gameplay. And the server resources Microsoft is putting toward these calculations will be much greater than a local Xbox One could handle on its own. "A rule of thumb we like to use is that [for] every Xbox One available in your living room we’ll have three of those devices in the cloud available," he said.

While cloud computation data doesn't have to be updated and synced with every frame of game data, developers are still going to have to manage the timing and flow of this cloud computing to avoid noticeable changes in graphic quality, Booty said. “Without getting too into the weeds, think about a lighting technique like ambient occlusion that gives you all the cracks and crevices and shadows that happen not just from direct light. There are a number of calculations that have to be done up front, and as the camera moves the effect will change. So when you walk into a room, it might be that for the first second or two the fidelity of the lighting is done by the console, but then, as the cloud catches up with that, the data comes back down to the console and you have incredibly realistic lighting."

Does that mean that Xbox One games will feature graphics that suddenly get much more realistic as complex data finally finishes downloading from the cloud? "Game developers have always had to wrestle with levels of detail... managing where and when you show details is part of the art of games," Booty said. "One of the exciting challenges going forward is a whole new set of techniques to manage what is going to be offloaded to the cloud and what’s going to come back.”


here's some examples. taken from
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/05/how-the-xbox-one-draws-more-processing-power-from-cloud-computing/
byah!
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
June 10 2013 19:22 GMT
#2169
On June 11 2013 04:05 Hitch-22 wrote:
Every person who says "won't beat my computer" deserves a quick slap in the face... Show me a computer that runs 8core cpu with as powerful a gpu for 500$ and I'll eat my own words. That's not even fucking including the kinect which in and of itself is easily a couple hundred dollars cut down in price.

"YO I WANT A COMPUTER CONSOLE BRO" ok go fucking spend 1,000 and get one and fuck off... But don't bitch about 500$+ pricetag on a console, its exhausting.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3118_7-6662171-5.html here's an example, likely outdated.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2396974,00.asp 2011 so shift it 2 years and you can imagine the same.

you realize i didn't state that my PC cost only $500 or that a $500 pc would beat it, i was stating that i already have a good pc, why would i need something not even equivalent and does less? please learn reading comprehend kthx

signed
'consolebroski'
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 10 2013 19:23 GMT
#2170
On June 11 2013 04:19 TimENT wrote:
Titanfall & Project Spark looked amazing. Anyone denying that is blinded by their hate for the Xbox One. Hopefully, both come out on the PC as well.


Titanfall is coming out on PC.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/6/4401938/respawns-first-game-is-titanfall-coming-to-xbox-one-xbox-360-and-pc
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 10 2013 19:23 GMT
#2171
On June 11 2013 04:22 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:16 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:13 amazingxkcd wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:08 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:05 Hitch-22 wrote:
Every person who says "won't beat my computer" deserves a quick slap in the face... Show me a computer that runs 8core cpu with as powerful a gpu for 500$ and I'll eat my own words. That's not even fucking including the kinect which in and of itself is easily a couple hundred dollars cut down in price.

"YO I WANT A COMPUTER CONSOLE BRO" ok go fucking spend 1,000 and get one and fuck off... But don't bitch about 500$+ pricetag on a console, its exhausting.

Why do you care so much?

Because... Why join a discussion if you're going to spew bullshit? It's exhausting reading 100's and 100's of comments on the power of a PC vs console when the console is hundreds of dollars cheaper... It's like those idiots who run around with 2.5k macbook pro and say "Man dat 500 laptop, aint as good as this macbook" and you just wanna slam your face into a desk.

It doesn't exhaust me. Are you new to the internets?
We have our dumb people here.


Indeed, perhaps I've been worn down to far after years and years of stupid comments. "Yo did you know dat da cloud is complete impossible, Xbox totally lying" , "Yo PC so much more powerful bro, buy one!" my head implodes...

Anywho, who thought that Titan game looked sick.


Are you implying you can't build a $500 PC that will massively outperform the Xbox One?


with his current knowledge of computers, he probably can't

lolol

Show me a PC built better then the xbox one that has higher graphic quality, faster processing and better ram for 500$ and I'll conceit defeat on the topic.

love the guy above me "Lets factor in the price of games for the console to equate its power!" palm to face once again


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148543
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130720
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147123

$510

ib4 you bringing up 8 core vs dual core, it matters almost fucking nothing.


hell, even /r/buildapc could optimize that.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 10 2013 19:24 GMT
#2172
On June 11 2013 04:21 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:19 Womwomwom wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:14 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 mikkmagro wrote:
500 euros is plain silly. Why does it have to be so much more expensive outside the US? Not everyone in Europe has Scandinavian pay checks. There is no huge justifiable leap in technology as in the last generation of consoles for that price tag.

With that said, I'll still probably pay 500 euros for a PS4.


http://www.dvice.com/2013-5-27/xbox-one-technically-40-times-more-powerful-xbox-360

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a484049/xbox-one-eight-times-more-powerful-than-360.html

Discusses the power.

This isn't even equating the cloud processing though.


Hi Hitch, can you explain how cloud processing will make the Xbox One so much more powerful. Please show me your working out because I'd love to see it. At the E3, literally the only thing cloud processing provided was in Forza 5. And that's to make the AI better.


I never once tried to affirm or debunk but you, sir, have blatantly claimed knowledge of its works as if you have some for seen god affirming belief that would debunk it.

Microsoft has made claims it would increase processing over the cloud and rely less on its console processors and I have yet to see a single reason to think Microsoft would fabricate lies with false advertising if it weren't true.

Hmm yes why would microsoft want to exaggerate the performance of their hardware my mind is boggled
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 19:25:19
June 10 2013 19:24 GMT
#2173
On June 11 2013 04:22 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:16 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:13 amazingxkcd wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:08 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:05 Hitch-22 wrote:
Every person who says "won't beat my computer" deserves a quick slap in the face... Show me a computer that runs 8core cpu with as powerful a gpu for 500$ and I'll eat my own words. That's not even fucking including the kinect which in and of itself is easily a couple hundred dollars cut down in price.

"YO I WANT A COMPUTER CONSOLE BRO" ok go fucking spend 1,000 and get one and fuck off... But don't bitch about 500$+ pricetag on a console, its exhausting.

Why do you care so much?

Because... Why join a discussion if you're going to spew bullshit? It's exhausting reading 100's and 100's of comments on the power of a PC vs console when the console is hundreds of dollars cheaper... It's like those idiots who run around with 2.5k macbook pro and say "Man dat 500 laptop, aint as good as this macbook" and you just wanna slam your face into a desk.

It doesn't exhaust me. Are you new to the internets?
We have our dumb people here.


Indeed, perhaps I've been worn down to far after years and years of stupid comments. "Yo did you know dat da cloud is complete impossible, Xbox totally lying" , "Yo PC so much more powerful bro, buy one!" my head implodes...

Anywho, who thought that Titan game looked sick.


Are you implying you can't build a $500 PC that will massively outperform the Xbox One?


with his current knowledge of computers, he probably can't

lolol

Show me a PC built better then the xbox one that has higher graphic quality, faster processing and better ram for 500$ and I'll conceit defeat on the topic.

love the guy above me "Lets factor in the price of games for the console to equate its power!" palm to face once again


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148543
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130720
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147123

$510

ib4 you bringing up 8 core vs dual core, it matters almost fucking nothing.


Shows a PC, less powerful, slight price jump, nbd!

inb4 you say the difference between pentium IV single core and dual core mean nothing or I7 quad core vs dual core mean nothing lololool
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 10 2013 19:24 GMT
#2174
On June 11 2013 04:22 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:16 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:13 amazingxkcd wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:08 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:05 Hitch-22 wrote:
Every person who says "won't beat my computer" deserves a quick slap in the face... Show me a computer that runs 8core cpu with as powerful a gpu for 500$ and I'll eat my own words. That's not even fucking including the kinect which in and of itself is easily a couple hundred dollars cut down in price.

"YO I WANT A COMPUTER CONSOLE BRO" ok go fucking spend 1,000 and get one and fuck off... But don't bitch about 500$+ pricetag on a console, its exhausting.

Why do you care so much?

Because... Why join a discussion if you're going to spew bullshit? It's exhausting reading 100's and 100's of comments on the power of a PC vs console when the console is hundreds of dollars cheaper... It's like those idiots who run around with 2.5k macbook pro and say "Man dat 500 laptop, aint as good as this macbook" and you just wanna slam your face into a desk.

It doesn't exhaust me. Are you new to the internets?
We have our dumb people here.


Indeed, perhaps I've been worn down to far after years and years of stupid comments. "Yo did you know dat da cloud is complete impossible, Xbox totally lying" , "Yo PC so much more powerful bro, buy one!" my head implodes...

Anywho, who thought that Titan game looked sick.


Are you implying you can't build a $500 PC that will massively outperform the Xbox One?


with his current knowledge of computers, he probably can't

lolol

Show me a PC built better then the xbox one that has higher graphic quality, faster processing and better ram for 500$ and I'll conceit defeat on the topic.

love the guy above me "Lets factor in the price of games for the console to equate its power!" palm to face once again


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148543
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130720
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147123

$510

ib4 you bringing up 8 core vs dual core, it matters almost fucking nothing.

No power supply, no OS, no storage.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 19:26:39
June 10 2013 19:26 GMT
#2175
On June 11 2013 04:24 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:22 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:16 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:13 amazingxkcd wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:08 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:05 Hitch-22 wrote:
Every person who says "won't beat my computer" deserves a quick slap in the face... Show me a computer that runs 8core cpu with as powerful a gpu for 500$ and I'll eat my own words. That's not even fucking including the kinect which in and of itself is easily a couple hundred dollars cut down in price.

"YO I WANT A COMPUTER CONSOLE BRO" ok go fucking spend 1,000 and get one and fuck off... But don't bitch about 500$+ pricetag on a console, its exhausting.

Why do you care so much?

Because... Why join a discussion if you're going to spew bullshit? It's exhausting reading 100's and 100's of comments on the power of a PC vs console when the console is hundreds of dollars cheaper... It's like those idiots who run around with 2.5k macbook pro and say "Man dat 500 laptop, aint as good as this macbook" and you just wanna slam your face into a desk.

It doesn't exhaust me. Are you new to the internets?
We have our dumb people here.


Indeed, perhaps I've been worn down to far after years and years of stupid comments. "Yo did you know dat da cloud is complete impossible, Xbox totally lying" , "Yo PC so much more powerful bro, buy one!" my head implodes...

Anywho, who thought that Titan game looked sick.


Are you implying you can't build a $500 PC that will massively outperform the Xbox One?


with his current knowledge of computers, he probably can't

lolol

Show me a PC built better then the xbox one that has higher graphic quality, faster processing and better ram for 500$ and I'll conceit defeat on the topic.

love the guy above me "Lets factor in the price of games for the console to equate its power!" palm to face once again


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148543
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130720
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147123

$510

ib4 you bringing up 8 core vs dual core, it matters almost fucking nothing.

No power supply, no OS, no storage.


Yeah I edited in I forgot some shit, it's more around $600.

And I'm working off the assumption if he has a computer right now, he has a Windows disc considering he's posting on Team Liquid most likely on a Windows platform.

On June 11 2013 04:24 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:22 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:16 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:13 amazingxkcd wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:08 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:05 Hitch-22 wrote:
Every person who says "won't beat my computer" deserves a quick slap in the face... Show me a computer that runs 8core cpu with as powerful a gpu for 500$ and I'll eat my own words. That's not even fucking including the kinect which in and of itself is easily a couple hundred dollars cut down in price.

"YO I WANT A COMPUTER CONSOLE BRO" ok go fucking spend 1,000 and get one and fuck off... But don't bitch about 500$+ pricetag on a console, its exhausting.

Why do you care so much?

Because... Why join a discussion if you're going to spew bullshit? It's exhausting reading 100's and 100's of comments on the power of a PC vs console when the console is hundreds of dollars cheaper... It's like those idiots who run around with 2.5k macbook pro and say "Man dat 500 laptop, aint as good as this macbook" and you just wanna slam your face into a desk.

It doesn't exhaust me. Are you new to the internets?
We have our dumb people here.


Indeed, perhaps I've been worn down to far after years and years of stupid comments. "Yo did you know dat da cloud is complete impossible, Xbox totally lying" , "Yo PC so much more powerful bro, buy one!" my head implodes...

Anywho, who thought that Titan game looked sick.


Are you implying you can't build a $500 PC that will massively outperform the Xbox One?


with his current knowledge of computers, he probably can't

lolol

Show me a PC built better then the xbox one that has higher graphic quality, faster processing and better ram for 500$ and I'll conceit defeat on the topic.

love the guy above me "Lets factor in the price of games for the console to equate its power!" palm to face once again


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148543
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130720
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147123

$510

ib4 you bringing up 8 core vs dual core, it matters almost fucking nothing.


Shows a PC, less powerful, slight price jump, nbd!

inb4 you say the difference between pentium IV single core and dual core mean nothing or I7 quad core vs dual core mean nothing lololool


lololool


Can you please stop this?

This isn't 4chan.
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
June 10 2013 19:26 GMT
#2176
On June 11 2013 04:24 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:22 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:16 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:13 amazingxkcd wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:08 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:05 Hitch-22 wrote:
Every person who says "won't beat my computer" deserves a quick slap in the face... Show me a computer that runs 8core cpu with as powerful a gpu for 500$ and I'll eat my own words. That's not even fucking including the kinect which in and of itself is easily a couple hundred dollars cut down in price.

"YO I WANT A COMPUTER CONSOLE BRO" ok go fucking spend 1,000 and get one and fuck off... But don't bitch about 500$+ pricetag on a console, its exhausting.

Why do you care so much?

Because... Why join a discussion if you're going to spew bullshit? It's exhausting reading 100's and 100's of comments on the power of a PC vs console when the console is hundreds of dollars cheaper... It's like those idiots who run around with 2.5k macbook pro and say "Man dat 500 laptop, aint as good as this macbook" and you just wanna slam your face into a desk.

It doesn't exhaust me. Are you new to the internets?
We have our dumb people here.


Indeed, perhaps I've been worn down to far after years and years of stupid comments. "Yo did you know dat da cloud is complete impossible, Xbox totally lying" , "Yo PC so much more powerful bro, buy one!" my head implodes...

Anywho, who thought that Titan game looked sick.


Are you implying you can't build a $500 PC that will massively outperform the Xbox One?


with his current knowledge of computers, he probably can't

lolol

Show me a PC built better then the xbox one that has higher graphic quality, faster processing and better ram for 500$ and I'll conceit defeat on the topic.

love the guy above me "Lets factor in the price of games for the console to equate its power!" palm to face once again


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148543
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130720
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147123

$510

ib4 you bringing up 8 core vs dual core, it matters almost fucking nothing.

No power supply, no OS, no storage.

No no it's ok, he went found the cheapest shit he could find and tried to pass it off as equivalent or better then the xbox one while hoping no one opened the link.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 19:28:16
June 10 2013 19:26 GMT
#2177
didnt EA say stuff about cloud processing on simcity (but it ended up not mattering anyways)? maybe microsoft pulling something similar?

also, $600 PC will never, ever perform like a new generation console of similar spec. optimization is very important from what i hear. so to have a pc that can perform like a new gen console would cost you near or over $1000 would be my guess.
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 19:28:24
June 10 2013 19:26 GMT
#2178
On June 11 2013 04:21 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:19 Womwomwom wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:14 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 mikkmagro wrote:
500 euros is plain silly. Why does it have to be so much more expensive outside the US? Not everyone in Europe has Scandinavian pay checks. There is no huge justifiable leap in technology as in the last generation of consoles for that price tag.

With that said, I'll still probably pay 500 euros for a PS4.


http://www.dvice.com/2013-5-27/xbox-one-technically-40-times-more-powerful-xbox-360

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a484049/xbox-one-eight-times-more-powerful-than-360.html

Discusses the power.

This isn't even equating the cloud processing though.


Hi Hitch, can you explain how cloud processing will make the Xbox One so much more powerful. Please show me your working out because I'd love to see it. At the E3, literally the only thing cloud processing provided was in Forza 5. And that's to make the AI better.


I never once tried to affirm or debunk but you, sir, have blatantly claimed knowledge of its works as if you have some for seen god affirming belief that would debunk it.

Microsoft has made claims it would increase processing over the cloud and rely less on its console processors and I have yet to see a single reason to think Microsoft would fabricate lies with false advertising if it weren't true.


They would lie because the PS4 is thought to be more powerful. Because it has more shaders than the Xbox One and it specifically designed to use its extra compute units to do parallel tasks that CPUs aren't good at. That is enough reason to think of ways to find ways to suggest X is better than Y. Assuming the GPU downclock rumour is right, then the PS4's GPU is literally 50% more powerful.

Do I need to remind you about how Major Nelson (Microsoft's PR mouthpiece) did a blatantly incorrect article saying that the Xbox 360 had a faster memory system than the PS3 by adding the speed of the RAM and embedded memory together. Do I need to remind you about the Cell. Do I need to remind you about blast processing bullshit or the gigahertz myth when AMD finally released a processor that destroyed Intel.

Again: tell me why Microsoft wouldn't be lying about the cloud when everything points to "yes, they're making shit up".
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
June 10 2013 19:26 GMT
#2179
On June 11 2013 04:24 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:22 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:16 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:13 amazingxkcd wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:10 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:08 Djzapz wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:05 Hitch-22 wrote:
Every person who says "won't beat my computer" deserves a quick slap in the face... Show me a computer that runs 8core cpu with as powerful a gpu for 500$ and I'll eat my own words. That's not even fucking including the kinect which in and of itself is easily a couple hundred dollars cut down in price.

"YO I WANT A COMPUTER CONSOLE BRO" ok go fucking spend 1,000 and get one and fuck off... But don't bitch about 500$+ pricetag on a console, its exhausting.

Why do you care so much?

Because... Why join a discussion if you're going to spew bullshit? It's exhausting reading 100's and 100's of comments on the power of a PC vs console when the console is hundreds of dollars cheaper... It's like those idiots who run around with 2.5k macbook pro and say "Man dat 500 laptop, aint as good as this macbook" and you just wanna slam your face into a desk.

It doesn't exhaust me. Are you new to the internets?
We have our dumb people here.


Indeed, perhaps I've been worn down to far after years and years of stupid comments. "Yo did you know dat da cloud is complete impossible, Xbox totally lying" , "Yo PC so much more powerful bro, buy one!" my head implodes...

Anywho, who thought that Titan game looked sick.


Are you implying you can't build a $500 PC that will massively outperform the Xbox One?


with his current knowledge of computers, he probably can't

lolol

Show me a PC built better then the xbox one that has higher graphic quality, faster processing and better ram for 500$ and I'll conceit defeat on the topic.

love the guy above me "Lets factor in the price of games for the console to equate its power!" palm to face once again


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148543
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130720
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147123

$510

ib4 you bringing up 8 core vs dual core, it matters almost fucking nothing.

No power supply, no OS, no storage.


You're tlaking about gaming PC's for gamers. You guys play starcraft right? You already own these things.
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
June 10 2013 19:28 GMT
#2180
On June 11 2013 04:24 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 04:21 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:19 Womwomwom wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:14 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 11 2013 04:12 mikkmagro wrote:
500 euros is plain silly. Why does it have to be so much more expensive outside the US? Not everyone in Europe has Scandinavian pay checks. There is no huge justifiable leap in technology as in the last generation of consoles for that price tag.

With that said, I'll still probably pay 500 euros for a PS4.


http://www.dvice.com/2013-5-27/xbox-one-technically-40-times-more-powerful-xbox-360

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a484049/xbox-one-eight-times-more-powerful-than-360.html

Discusses the power.

This isn't even equating the cloud processing though.


Hi Hitch, can you explain how cloud processing will make the Xbox One so much more powerful. Please show me your working out because I'd love to see it. At the E3, literally the only thing cloud processing provided was in Forza 5. And that's to make the AI better.


I never once tried to affirm or debunk but you, sir, have blatantly claimed knowledge of its works as if you have some for seen god affirming belief that would debunk it.

Microsoft has made claims it would increase processing over the cloud and rely less on its console processors and I have yet to see a single reason to think Microsoft would fabricate lies with false advertising if it weren't true.

Hmm yes why would microsoft want to exaggerate the performance of their hardware my mind is boggled


Exaggeration =/= lying. They can say the cloud processing will "insert hyperbolic statement" but the minute they say it will have an affect on processing, which they have, it becomes false advertising if it's not true. We have been told it will help decrease the load on the Xbox One, meaning it works.

Wom seems to think otherwise and blatantly has stated so.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
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