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B-Roll
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States403 Posts
November 09 2014 17:32 GMT
#2021
On November 09 2014 21:00 Cyro wrote:
I might not raid tonight, i am not feeling well at all - but the raid is in 7 hours


hey man if you stream, or want me in TS i can join. On that last one you were really low on health, healers need to keep you topped
nehcnhoj
Profile Joined July 2010
United States213 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-11 03:28:32
November 11 2014 03:20 GMT
#2022
Bradwan-san, if you see this, how do you break the earth platforms in logic + earth? Also, unclear about the pillar mechanic, we're on out first few pulls for context.

Also, how do you remove momentum on earth?
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
November 11 2014 17:43 GMT
#2023
Seems like the repair gold 'trick' has been patched out.

Would love to hear it if you guys find a new trick to stop reparing ^^
B-Roll
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States403 Posts
November 11 2014 22:26 GMT
#2024
On November 11 2014 12:20 nehcnhoj wrote:
Bradwan-san, if you see this, how do you break the earth platforms in logic + earth? Also, unclear about the pillar mechanic, we're on out first few pulls for context.

Also, how do you remove momentum on earth?


Ooooo this is some detailed parts of the fight, Aka the whole fight.

Earth platforms? That spawn the pillars? The "snake" has to go to it. Also the Pillars Mechanic, if you figure out what it does let me know.

How to remove the Momentum on earth? Jump into boxes, and check the debuffs
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 07:21:26
November 12 2014 07:20 GMT
#2025
Anyone else feel like warriors got buffed too much? I know Cyro will disagree

Feels to me like before patch they were already better than stalkers at EVERYTHING except single target damage, and now they are better at that too. I'm talking DPS in raids here, not tanking or PvP (though I hear they are OP in PvP too)

They have a better positional requirement, better armor type, better utility (interrupts, buffs, debuffs), better cleave damage, and now comparable, if not better, single target damage.

QQ

Signed, a salty stalker.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 08:42:28
November 12 2014 08:36 GMT
#2026
On November 12 2014 16:20 Laurens wrote:
Anyone else feel like warriors got buffed too much? I know Cyro will disagree

Feels to me like before patch they were already better than stalkers at EVERYTHING except single target damage, and now they are better at that too. I'm talking DPS in raids here, not tanking or PvP (though I hear they are OP in PvP too)

They have a better positional requirement, better armor type, better utility (interrupts, buffs, debuffs), better cleave damage, and now comparable, if not better, single target damage.

QQ

Signed, a salty stalker.


I didn't do exact tests but it felt like my damage went UP before actually doing anything with runes etc.

I think the biggest thing: My cross-stat gear is actually GOOD now. Pre-patch, we were punished HEAVILY from deviating away from AP. No one piece of gear has such a huge impact on DPS now, compared to some of the pre-patch stuff.

A +28AP rune used to be ~1/68'th of all of my AP. Now, that rune gives 21 instead, and i have way more AP - so instead of it being 1/68'th of my AP, it's only ~1/140'th. It makes half as much difference to my actual damage.

Warrior because of the weird as shit scaling (0.37ap per brut, 1ap per AP) combined with overall very low AP levels (raiding DS with 1900ap after using food and boost.. while in full GA gear) made it very volatile before. Also, breaching is off the GCD.

It's kinda weird, i ran STL -once- and on the first boss, i cast breaching 7-8 times in about 2 seconds with some RNG luck. I've never blown up a damage meter so much on single target. Between the breaching change and the savage strike buff, they seem to have significantly increased the damage potential of a warrior within the 10 second burst window, perfect for stuff like Phagemaw. I'm kinda guessing though - i didn't run any numbers, i've only played for 15 minutes in the drop and i don't have any extra runes, rerolls etc.


I think the problem is the Stalker, not the Warrior - at least until i have seen more numbers. They lack a lot of stuff and they're not special. They remind me a little of some classes that just stick to a single target boss and top the meters by 1.2x the class under them, only they don't actually do that
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
November 12 2014 10:19 GMT
#2027
Yeah it's kinda discouraging, Stalker DPS don't really have a role anymore. Apparently we can't hold threat while tanking either as of drop 3.

Asyrael is our class dev and he is such a piece of shit. Posts once every 2 months, ignores all feedback and requests, destroys our class patch by patch.

Sigh.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
November 12 2014 12:23 GMT
#2028
At least you have a dedicated class developer.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
November 12 2014 12:37 GMT
#2029
Apparently we share him with Espers. It's pretty clear which of the two he spends the most time on.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
November 12 2014 12:44 GMT
#2030
Oh, another shared one :D

I really can't keep track of this stuff
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
B-Roll
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States403 Posts
November 12 2014 21:37 GMT
#2031
Stalkers are having DPS problems?

http://www.wildstarlogs.com/statistics/1

Are you parcing on a dummy or in GA?
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 22:10:57
November 12 2014 22:06 GMT
#2032
I was going by my own GA raid and the Eugenic dude on Reddit saying Esper is #1 DPS now and stalker/warrior are equal on 2nd.

My DPS did go up a little, the Warrior DPS just went up more

Poke Sauce to post his Drop 3 build though please, I definitely didn't gain 200 DPS, must be doing something wrong.

edit: your graphs not on the right settings, check this: http://www.wildstarlogs.com/statistics/1#dataset=100&sample=1
Yours was on 50th percentile, mine is on max, neither is an accurate representation I suppose.
B-Roll
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States403 Posts
November 12 2014 22:12 GMT
#2033
On November 13 2014 07:06 Laurens wrote:
I was going by my own GA raid and the Eugenic dude on Reddit saying Esper is #1 DPS now and stalker/warrior are equal on 2nd.

My DPS did go up a little, the Warrior DPS just went up more

Poke Sauce to post his Drop 3 build though please, I definitely didn't gain 200 DPS, must be doing something wrong.

edit: your graphs not on the right settings, check this: http://www.wildstarlogs.com/statistics/1#dataset=100&sample=1
Yours was on 50th percentile, mine is on max, neither is an accurate representation I suppose.


Lol can you spot when the dropped happened. I laughed
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
November 12 2014 22:19 GMT
#2034
I cried
B-Roll
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States403 Posts
November 13 2014 20:56 GMT
#2035
So it looks like some ish is going down? https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/118283-exploits-and-you/#entry1230220 Anyone know whats going on?
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
November 13 2014 20:57 GMT
#2036
From what I gather, a bug connected to both boomboxes and gardens.. so some elite garden abuse somehow? Idk.

Hoping they dont do a rollback cause I got some sweet loot in the raid today.
B-Roll
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States403 Posts
November 13 2014 21:19 GMT
#2037
On November 14 2014 05:57 Laurens wrote:
From what I gather, a bug connected to both boomboxes and gardens.. so some elite garden abuse somehow? Idk.

Hoping they dont do a rollback cause I got some sweet loot in the raid today.


Yeah they are in a horrible catch 22 right now.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
November 13 2014 22:07 GMT
#2038
Has it spread to eu yet?

Especially with the number of people I know "coming back to give it one last shot" with this patch, if they have their last two days of dungeon farming completely rolled back... That's gonna need some real shiny pr for everyone to just swallow :S
B-Roll
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States403 Posts
November 13 2014 22:49 GMT
#2039
On November 14 2014 07:07 killerdog wrote:
Has it spread to eu yet?

Especially with the number of people I know "coming back to give it one last shot" with this patch, if they have their last two days of dungeon farming completely rolled back... That's gonna need some real shiny pr for everyone to just swallow :S


Nope..... This is going to be interesting for sure. I will be pretty pissed if they roll back more than the past couple of hours.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-13 23:29:22
November 13 2014 23:26 GMT
#2040
On November 14 2014 07:49 B-Roll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2014 07:07 killerdog wrote:
Has it spread to eu yet?

Especially with the number of people I know "coming back to give it one last shot" with this patch, if they have their last two days of dungeon farming completely rolled back... That's gonna need some real shiny pr for everyone to just swallow :S


Nope..... This is going to be interesting for sure. I will be pretty pissed if they roll back more than the past couple of hours.


https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/118297-reported-gold-exploit/#entry1230419

Apparently they think they can deal with it without resorting to rollbacks, this should be interesting o.0

From what people are saying on the forums, it sounds like you can somehow make your garden (maybe only elite gardens) start spamming out unlimited heartichokes o.0
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