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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 24 2013 04:06 GMT
#1821
On October 24 2013 13:05 Gnaix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 12:56 iCanada wrote:
Does anyone have a Heracronite I can have? QQ.

I got pokemon X, and for some dumb ass reason Gamefreak only put Heracranite in Y.

<_<


there's only 1 in a game, unless somebody wants to reset their game anytime soon, it's unlikely. Still, X gets pinsir's mega-stone, and his considered the better one by most.


I'm aware. I dunno, just spent last three days breeding me a Heracross.

-.-
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 04:15:31
October 24 2013 04:13 GMT
#1822
just give it like a choice band or life orb or something. prolly still does better than his mega evo

is there any way to get staryu's hidden ability in this game? don't think it shows up in friend safari and iunno if it has a horde
Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
October 24 2013 04:16 GMT
#1823
On October 24 2013 13:13 RuskiPanda wrote:
just give it like a choice band or life orb or something. prolly still does better than his mega evo

is there any way to get staryu's hidden ability in this game? don't think it shows up in friend safari and iunno if it has a horde

probably gonna have to wait for pokebank.
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 04:19:01
October 24 2013 04:17 GMT
#1824
On October 24 2013 13:13 RuskiPanda wrote:
just give it like a choice band or life orb or something. prolly still does better than his mega evo

is there any way to get staryu's hidden ability in this game? don't think it shows up in friend safari and iunno if it has a horde


Natural Cure is one of the games best abilities. Why would you want Analytic?

edit: Staryu and Starmie are also very fast so you'll barly get to take advanatge of +30% power
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 04:20:04
October 24 2013 04:18 GMT
#1825
More damage on the switch in, I think either set works fine tho probably. I was planning to run it as the boltbeam sweeper over naturalcure+recover/leftovers.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 24 2013 04:20 GMT
#1826
On October 24 2013 13:13 RuskiPanda wrote:
just give it like a choice band or life orb or something. prolly still does better than his mega evo



Why do you say that?

His MegaEvo is probably the best sub-breaker ever.

All his stats but speed increased by 20 on his Mega, and lets be honest, Heracross never outspeeds anything asnyway. He has same typing, but gets big huge stabs with skill-link.

80 / 185 / 115 / 40 / 105 / 75... those are huge numbers. Huuuge. he has good defensive typing, good offensive typing... And can take full advantage of Skill-link. After a bulkup he also becomes a disgusting physical wall. I dunno, I'm not saying he is amazing, merely that I think he is better than given credit for.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 04:22:32
October 24 2013 04:21 GMT
#1827
On October 24 2013 13:18 RuskiPanda wrote:
More damage on the switch in

Only way to take advantage of Analytic on Starmie is to have starmie get hit with a priority move. Switching in won't trigger the effect of that ability on your next attack since it will be anew turn before starmie gets to attack

And starmies speed is in the top 5% of pokemon
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 04:23:29
October 24 2013 04:21 GMT
#1828
Just does that give enough to make him worth running over another mega though, unless he's the only one in your group that can in which case yeah it could be good.

On October 24 2013 13:21 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 13:18 RuskiPanda wrote:
More damage on the switch in

Only way to take advantage of Analytic on Starmie is to have starmie get hit with a priority move. Switching in won't trigger the effect of that ability on your next attack since it will be anew turn before starmie gets to attack


The idea is to switch starmie into something it threatens and force a switch so that your move will hit the swapped in pokemon harder (Since switching pokemon takes 1st priority). It's pretty situational though.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 24 2013 04:32 GMT
#1829
On October 24 2013 13:21 RuskiPanda wrote:
Just does that give enough to make him worth running over another mega though, unless he's the only one in your group that can in which case yeah it could be good.

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 13:21 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On October 24 2013 13:18 RuskiPanda wrote:
More damage on the switch in

Only way to take advantage of Analytic on Starmie is to have starmie get hit with a priority move. Switching in won't trigger the effect of that ability on your next attack since it will be anew turn before starmie gets to attack


The idea is to switch starmie into something it threatens and force a switch so that your move will hit the swapped in pokemon harder (Since switching pokemon takes 1st priority). It's pretty situational though.

Starmie does force alot of switches. To frail to take hits though so likly only able to take advantage of that after one of your mons is KOed. Or Starmie is the only spinner you could have. Ghosts are attracted by spinners and starmie hits hard enough that +30% can 1hko likly all of them.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
October 24 2013 04:35 GMT
#1830
On October 24 2013 13:21 RuskiPanda wrote:
Just does that give enough to make him worth running over another mega though, unless he's the only one in your group that can in which case yeah it could be good.

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 13:21 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On October 24 2013 13:18 RuskiPanda wrote:
More damage on the switch in

Only way to take advantage of Analytic on Starmie is to have starmie get hit with a priority move. Switching in won't trigger the effect of that ability on your next attack since it will be anew turn before starmie gets to attack


The idea is to switch starmie into something it threatens and force a switch so that your move will hit the swapped in pokemon harder (Since switching pokemon takes 1st priority). It's pretty situational though.

Situational is an understatement:
http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue29/ou_metagame_analysis
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 04:48:05
October 24 2013 04:41 GMT
#1831
On October 24 2013 13:21 RuskiPanda wrote:
Just does that give enough to make him worth running over another mega though, unless he's the only one in your group that can in which case yeah it could be good.


I dunno, I think so. He checks pretty well any potential OU physical attacker. All of them. Resists Ground, Fighting, Bug, Dark, Grass, and it's neutral to rock. With that improved DEF, there are so many mons it can check and tank just on virtue of its typing; only OU Physical attacker it doesn't straight up wall without +1 is Infernape, who 0HKO him with Flare Blitz assuming he has Choice band.

That being said, if MegaCross gets +1, suddenly that turns into FlareBlitz into a 2HKO and MegaCross can 0HKO Infernape with either Rock Blast, Close Combat, Fury Attack, Earthquake... thats without the +1 from Bulk Up taken into account.

Any potential OU wall is also pretty much just Bug food too.

I guess I havn't calced the potential for like Corbat or Talonflame, but those SR weaknesses. (EDIT: Yeah, Crobat 0HKO MegaCross pretty handily. Dat 4x Flying weakness. Talon is a 2HKO though. That being said, they can't switch into MegaCross, only if he uses earthquake, but no real reason to run EQ anymore with Skill-link in picture.)
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 24 2013 04:42 GMT
#1832
if you're planning to play competitively starmie generally runs LO analytic to get the 2HKO on jellicent switchins with thunderbolt or psyshock. it also nets the 2hko on other common switchins like blissey, rotom-w, and celebi
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 05:15:01
October 24 2013 05:02 GMT
#1833
On October 24 2013 13:42 Dead9 wrote:
if you're planning to play competitively starmie generally runs LO analytic to get the 2HKO on jellicent switchins with thunderbolt or psyshock. it also nets the 2hko on other common switchins like blissey, rotom-w, and celebi


Yeah that's definitely worded better xD. I'll probably just get a perfect natural cure starmie now and breed analytic on it when Bank comes out.

edit: jk staryus can't breed together, fffffffff

Also if I want to go by the unique item clause for in-game battling and my life orb and leftover slots are tied up elsewhere would it be better to run Expert Belt or Choice Specs? thanks
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
October 24 2013 05:34 GMT
#1834
Does anyone have a 4IV Spiritomb they would be willing trade away for something? Maybe a Pineco/Forretress with 3IV or more too.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 24 2013 05:34 GMT
#1835
On October 24 2013 14:02 RuskiPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 13:42 Dead9 wrote:
if you're planning to play competitively starmie generally runs LO analytic to get the 2HKO on jellicent switchins with thunderbolt or psyshock. it also nets the 2hko on other common switchins like blissey, rotom-w, and celebi


Yeah that's definitely worded better xD. I'll probably just get a perfect natural cure starmie now and breed analytic on it when Bank comes out.

edit: jk staryus can't breed together, fffffffff

Also if I want to go by the unique item clause for in-game battling and my life orb and leftover slots are tied up elsewhere would it be better to run Expert Belt or Choice Specs? thanks


Depends on your type coverage and your pokemon.

I personally think Expert Belt underrated because it so unpopular; a choice item boost by about same damage, then you can get free KO because someone thinks you locked in, but kind of cheesy and only works because no one uses expert belt.

eg: Lucario uses CC, KO's dudes TTar; they see no LO drawback, assume has choice on and then switch in their DDance Dragonite and get 0HKO'd by Lucario's Ice Punch.

That being said, Choice items much more reliable.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 24 2013 05:42 GMT
#1836
ebelt is better, starmie gets SE coverage on a large portion of pokemon anyway
you pretty much have to run surf/pump, tbolt, ice beam though
specs is really gimmicky on starmie; starmie doesn't get voltswitch or u-turn and it doesn't really have the raw power to abuse specs
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
October 24 2013 05:46 GMT
#1837
You guys are so hardcore. I look for good natures and then max my training points with them then call it a day.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
October 24 2013 05:56 GMT
#1838
On October 24 2013 14:46 Zooper31 wrote:
You guys are so hardcore. I look for good natures and then max my training points with them then call it a day.


This is probably the better way to go about it .

I say this cause Im biking back and forth waiting on eggs right now :D
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 24 2013 06:00 GMT
#1839
On October 24 2013 14:56 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 14:46 Zooper31 wrote:
You guys are so hardcore. I look for good natures and then max my training points with them then call it a day.


This is probably the better way to go about it .

I say this cause Im biking back and forth waiting on eggs right now :D

Find a area with a easy to get to ledge and do rollerskate tricks off it.

Imagine hatching eggs without flame body....
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 24 2013 06:01 GMT
#1840
ironically the worst part for me is getting them to level 50. the elite four in this game is brutal with all the cutscenes and long loading scenes
I come in for the scraps
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