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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 24 2013 13:05 Gnaix wrote: there's only 1 in a game, unless somebody wants to reset their game anytime soon, it's unlikely. Still, X gets pinsir's mega-stone, and his considered the better one by most. I'm aware. I dunno, just spent last three days breeding me a Heracross. -.- | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
is there any way to get staryu's hidden ability in this game? don't think it shows up in friend safari and iunno if it has a horde | ||
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Gnaix
United States438 Posts
On October 24 2013 13:13 RuskiPanda wrote: just give it like a choice band or life orb or something. prolly still does better than his mega evo is there any way to get staryu's hidden ability in this game? don't think it shows up in friend safari and iunno if it has a horde probably gonna have to wait for pokebank. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On October 24 2013 13:13 RuskiPanda wrote: just give it like a choice band or life orb or something. prolly still does better than his mega evo is there any way to get staryu's hidden ability in this game? don't think it shows up in friend safari and iunno if it has a horde Natural Cure is one of the games best abilities. Why would you want Analytic? edit: Staryu and Starmie are also very fast so you'll barly get to take advanatge of +30% power | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 24 2013 13:13 RuskiPanda wrote: just give it like a choice band or life orb or something. prolly still does better than his mega evo Why do you say that? His MegaEvo is probably the best sub-breaker ever. All his stats but speed increased by 20 on his Mega, and lets be honest, Heracross never outspeeds anything asnyway. He has same typing, but gets big huge stabs with skill-link. 80 / 185 / 115 / 40 / 105 / 75... those are huge numbers. Huuuge. he has good defensive typing, good offensive typing... And can take full advantage of Skill-link. After a bulkup he also becomes a disgusting physical wall. I dunno, I'm not saying he is amazing, merely that I think he is better than given credit for. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On October 24 2013 13:18 RuskiPanda wrote: More damage on the switch in Only way to take advantage of Analytic on Starmie is to have starmie get hit with a priority move. Switching in won't trigger the effect of that ability on your next attack since it will be anew turn before starmie gets to attack And starmies speed is in the top 5% of pokemon | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
On October 24 2013 13:21 Orcasgt24 wrote: Only way to take advantage of Analytic on Starmie is to have starmie get hit with a priority move. Switching in won't trigger the effect of that ability on your next attack since it will be anew turn before starmie gets to attack The idea is to switch starmie into something it threatens and force a switch so that your move will hit the swapped in pokemon harder (Since switching pokemon takes 1st priority). It's pretty situational though. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On October 24 2013 13:21 RuskiPanda wrote: Just does that give enough to make him worth running over another mega though, unless he's the only one in your group that can in which case yeah it could be good. The idea is to switch starmie into something it threatens and force a switch so that your move will hit the swapped in pokemon harder (Since switching pokemon takes 1st priority). It's pretty situational though. Starmie does force alot of switches. To frail to take hits though so likly only able to take advantage of that after one of your mons is KOed. Or Starmie is the only spinner you could have. Ghosts are attracted by spinners and starmie hits hard enough that +30% can 1hko likly all of them. | ||
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Gnaix
United States438 Posts
On October 24 2013 13:21 RuskiPanda wrote: Just does that give enough to make him worth running over another mega though, unless he's the only one in your group that can in which case yeah it could be good. The idea is to switch starmie into something it threatens and force a switch so that your move will hit the swapped in pokemon harder (Since switching pokemon takes 1st priority). It's pretty situational though. Situational is an understatement: http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue29/ou_metagame_analysis | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 24 2013 13:21 RuskiPanda wrote: Just does that give enough to make him worth running over another mega though, unless he's the only one in your group that can in which case yeah it could be good. I dunno, I think so. He checks pretty well any potential OU physical attacker. All of them. Resists Ground, Fighting, Bug, Dark, Grass, and it's neutral to rock. With that improved DEF, there are so many mons it can check and tank just on virtue of its typing; only OU Physical attacker it doesn't straight up wall without +1 is Infernape, who 0HKO him with Flare Blitz assuming he has Choice band. That being said, if MegaCross gets +1, suddenly that turns into FlareBlitz into a 2HKO and MegaCross can 0HKO Infernape with either Rock Blast, Close Combat, Fury Attack, Earthquake... thats without the +1 from Bulk Up taken into account. Any potential OU wall is also pretty much just Bug food too. I guess I havn't calced the potential for like Corbat or Talonflame, but those SR weaknesses. (EDIT: Yeah, Crobat 0HKO MegaCross pretty handily. Dat 4x Flying weakness. Talon is a 2HKO though. That being said, they can't switch into MegaCross, only if he uses earthquake, but no real reason to run EQ anymore with Skill-link in picture.) | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
On October 24 2013 13:42 Dead9 wrote: if you're planning to play competitively starmie generally runs LO analytic to get the 2HKO on jellicent switchins with thunderbolt or psyshock. it also nets the 2hko on other common switchins like blissey, rotom-w, and celebi Yeah that's definitely worded better xD. I'll probably just get a perfect natural cure starmie now and breed analytic on it when Bank comes out. edit: jk staryus can't breed together, fffffffff Also if I want to go by the unique item clause for in-game battling and my life orb and leftover slots are tied up elsewhere would it be better to run Expert Belt or Choice Specs? thanks | ||
blahz0r
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On October 24 2013 14:02 RuskiPanda wrote: Yeah that's definitely worded better xD. I'll probably just get a perfect natural cure starmie now and breed analytic on it when Bank comes out. edit: jk staryus can't breed together, fffffffff Also if I want to go by the unique item clause for in-game battling and my life orb and leftover slots are tied up elsewhere would it be better to run Expert Belt or Choice Specs? thanks Depends on your type coverage and your pokemon. I personally think Expert Belt underrated because it so unpopular; a choice item boost by about same damage, then you can get free KO because someone thinks you locked in, but kind of cheesy and only works because no one uses expert belt. eg: Lucario uses CC, KO's dudes TTar; they see no LO drawback, assume has choice on and then switch in their DDance Dragonite and get 0HKO'd by Lucario's Ice Punch. That being said, Choice items much more reliable. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
you pretty much have to run surf/pump, tbolt, ice beam though specs is really gimmicky on starmie; starmie doesn't get voltswitch or u-turn and it doesn't really have the raw power to abuse specs | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On October 24 2013 14:46 Zooper31 wrote: You guys are so hardcore. I look for good natures and then max my training points with them then call it a day. This is probably the better way to go about it  . I say this cause Im biking back and forth waiting on eggs right now :D | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On October 24 2013 14:56 BlueBird. wrote: This is probably the better way to go about it . I say this cause Im biking back and forth waiting on eggs right now :D Find a area with a easy to get to ledge and do rollerskate tricks off it. Imagine hatching eggs without flame body.... | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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