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Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
September 03 2014 17:37 GMT
#3941
On September 04 2014 02:30 Beavo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 02:21 Terranasaur wrote:
On September 04 2014 02:16 Beavo wrote:
What do you guys think of this team I am making. I am not a competative pokemon player but I am starting to learn. I am trying not to use anyone super OP.

Blazakin (Adament)
Milotic (Bold)
Scizor (Adament)
Tyranitar (Adament)
Dragonite (Adament)

Not sure who else to go for really. Any one else out there thats super under rated?


If you're trying not to use anyone super OP, then Blaziken is a bad choice. That's pretty much the best pokemon in the game.


really hes not listed once on all the lists and the competative stats I looked up?


I haven't played competitively in awhile but when I did Blaziken/mega was always in the Uber (highest) tier. So he was almost never seen. Where were you looking?
It is what it is
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 03 2014 18:16 GMT
#3942
why are we just singling out blaziken, that entire list is top tier except milotic
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
September 03 2014 18:20 GMT
#3943
Because Blaziken is the only Uber on that list, as far as I remember. The rest are just good commonly used pokemon.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
September 03 2014 19:20 GMT
#3944
If you were looking at VGC lists, then Blaziken is banned since he's not Kalos native. If you were looking at OU lists, then Blaziken is banned because Smogon decided fairly early that mega or not he's too good. Though I think if you want to play Blaziken with Blaze it should be fine.

As for underrated, I personally think Donphan, Tentacruel, Sableye, and Noivern are pretty underrated. Whimsicott is another one of my personal favorites, but typing makes me cry..
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Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
September 03 2014 19:24 GMT
#3945
On September 04 2014 02:30 Beavo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 02:21 Terranasaur wrote:
On September 04 2014 02:16 Beavo wrote:
What do you guys think of this team I am making. I am not a competative pokemon player but I am starting to learn. I am trying not to use anyone super OP.

Blazakin (Adament)
Milotic (Bold)
Scizor (Adament)
Tyranitar (Adament)
Dragonite (Adament)

Not sure who else to go for really. Any one else out there thats super under rated?


If you're trying not to use anyone super OP, then Blaziken is a bad choice. That's pretty much the best pokemon in the game.


really hes not listed once on all the lists and the competative stats I looked up?


Because he's banned. Because he's the best Poke in the game.

As far as underrated Pokes go, I love Alakazam and Starmie. I've got a soft spot for Gen 1, but those two have always been my favorite sweepers.
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Beavo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada293 Posts
September 03 2014 20:15 GMT
#3946
Him being banned makes sense. I think I am going to go with him anyways because my wife and freind in europe whos gonna play at the same time both want Charizard.

Another random question for my Dragonite. I think the moveset I want to go is:

Outrage
Fly
Thunderbolt/Dragon Dance
Fire punch

on this site it says that he can learn fire punch at level 1. Does this mean as soon as i go to the guy/lady who makes you remember moves i can learn it?

http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/dragonite
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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 20:29:25
September 03 2014 20:23 GMT
#3947
On September 04 2014 05:15 Beavo wrote:
Him being banned makes sense. I think I am going to go with him anyways because my wife and freind in europe whos gonna play at the same time both want Charizard.

Another random question for my Dragonite. I think the moveset I want to go is:

Outrage
Fly
Thunderbolt/Dragon Dance
Fire punch

on this site it says that he can learn fire punch at level 1. Does this mean as soon as i go to the guy/lady who makes you remember moves i can learn it?

http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/dragonite


Dragonite has Hurricane. Fly is pretty terrible. And a mixed set seems terrible. Most sets have Dragon Dance to make up for his terrible speed.

Due to all the priority setup mons out there I pretty much think ExtremeSpeed is a must. I haven't been to Smogon in a while but something like:

Outrage/Dragon Claw
Earthquake/Fire Punch
ExtremeSpeed
Dragon Dance

Lum Berry

is pretty close to standard. One way of taking advantage of his Multiscale is to set up.

Try looking up movesets as well. I've played for about 2 years now and I still pretty much stick to the recommended sets. After you've understood the game more, you can start swapping moves in.

Blaziken's banned because of Speed Boost. After a Speed Boost or two and maybe a Swords Dance he becomes really hard to deal with with most regular Pokes not named Mega Pinsir or Talonflame.
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Beavo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada293 Posts
September 03 2014 20:31 GMT
#3948
On September 04 2014 05:23 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 05:15 Beavo wrote:
Him being banned makes sense. I think I am going to go with him anyways because my wife and freind in europe whos gonna play at the same time both want Charizard.

Another random question for my Dragonite. I think the moveset I want to go is:

Outrage
Fly
Thunderbolt/Dragon Dance
Fire punch

on this site it says that he can learn fire punch at level 1. Does this mean as soon as i go to the guy/lady who makes you remember moves i can learn it?

http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/dragonite


Dragonite has Hurricane. Fly is pretty terrible. And a mixed set seems terrible. Most sets have Dragon Dance to make up for his terrible speed.

Due to all the priority setup mons out there I pretty much think ExtremeSpeed is a must. I haven't been to Smogon in a while but something like:

Outrage/Dragon Claw
Earthquake/Fire Punch
ExtremeSpeed
Dragon Dance

Lum Berry

is pretty close to standard. One way of taking advantage of his Multiscale is to set up.

Try looking up movesets as well. I've played for about 2 years now and I still pretty much stick to the recommended sets. After you've understood the game more, you can start swapping moves in.


I only plan to use fly until I beat the elite/champion. Extremespeed does not seem worth the hassle to me for what I plan to do.

Was I right about fire punch, Is that how it works. Because I want to do this with Blazikin too for high jump kick.
No one remembers second place
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 20:36:32
September 03 2014 20:36 GMT
#3949
On September 04 2014 05:31 Beavo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 05:23 IntoTheEmo wrote:
On September 04 2014 05:15 Beavo wrote:
Him being banned makes sense. I think I am going to go with him anyways because my wife and freind in europe whos gonna play at the same time both want Charizard.

Another random question for my Dragonite. I think the moveset I want to go is:

Outrage
Fly
Thunderbolt/Dragon Dance
Fire punch

on this site it says that he can learn fire punch at level 1. Does this mean as soon as i go to the guy/lady who makes you remember moves i can learn it?

http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/dragonite


Dragonite has Hurricane. Fly is pretty terrible. And a mixed set seems terrible. Most sets have Dragon Dance to make up for his terrible speed.

Due to all the priority setup mons out there I pretty much think ExtremeSpeed is a must. I haven't been to Smogon in a while but something like:

Outrage/Dragon Claw
Earthquake/Fire Punch
ExtremeSpeed
Dragon Dance

Lum Berry

is pretty close to standard. One way of taking advantage of his Multiscale is to set up.

Try looking up movesets as well. I've played for about 2 years now and I still pretty much stick to the recommended sets. After you've understood the game more, you can start swapping moves in.


I only plan to use fly until I beat the elite/champion. Extremespeed does not seem worth the hassle to me for what I plan to do.

Was I right about fire punch, Is that how it works. Because I want to do this with Blazikin too for high jump kick.


Oh so you're not really going to try your hand at competitive. Thought your post implied that you were going to start. In any case do whatever you want.

As I recall Dragonite learns Fire Punch by going back to the Move Reminder or whatever after he's evolved. I had one pre PokeBank so it doesn't have ExtremeSpeed. Do not like not having that

Tried Aegislash? It got banned to Ubers recently :o
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
September 03 2014 20:43 GMT
#3950
If one of you guys need an ExSpeed Dragonite I've got like 3 boxes of Dratini's i could give you.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Beavo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada293 Posts
September 03 2014 21:04 GMT
#3951
On September 04 2014 05:43 Terranasaur wrote:
If one of you guys need an ExSpeed Dragonite I've got like 3 boxes of Dratini's i could give you.


Oh man that would be awesome. That would be awesome, do you want anything specific in return?
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
September 03 2014 21:23 GMT
#3952
If you guys need anything let me know. I enjoy making walls and stalls so I have a collection of Chansey, Snorlax, Slowbro, Ferroseed, Clefable, Sableye, etc. Only thing I don't have that I'm looking for is a regenerator tangela. That and now a certain electric squirrel.
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Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 23:06:46
September 03 2014 23:05 GMT
#3953
Beavo, I'd say your team is very physical. Look at all those Adamants! Tyranitar can run special moves (you'd just have to change your nature) but it's not exactly a special attacker. It's mainly physical with some special coverage. Dragonite can be special but the only decent special attacker IMO is rain abuser with Thunder and Hurricane and your team is not exactly a rain team.

I think your team would have trouble getting through Gliscor, Landorus-Therian, Venusaur and probably Hippowdon as well. Perhaps something like Starmie, Greninja (with Extrasensory) or Latios/Latias could work out.

Scizor and Tyranitar can be scary offensively, but I think defensive versions of those two are a better fit on your team

Team's looking pretty good so far. It can be better definitely, but it's a good start. If you're raising all of these on cartridge, you'll atleast have a solid base to build a team around, in case you find that your team's not meshing well. For example, if you go offensive on Scizor, Blaziken, Dragonite and Tyranitar (Dragon Dance on the latter two), well you may find your team works very poorly together but hey, when you go on to make your next team, you have 4 very potent pokemon to build around.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
September 03 2014 23:17 GMT
#3954
If you want to learn to play competitive, playing on Pokemon Showdown is much better than trying to raise Wifi teams. If you just want really nifty teams for in-game, Battle Maison and Wifi with friends then so long as it's decent it'll be fine. There's no need to stress over it.
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Beavo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 03:54:53
September 04 2014 03:53 GMT
#3955
On September 04 2014 08:05 Purind wrote:
Beavo, I'd say your team is very physical. Look at all those Adamants! Tyranitar can run special moves (you'd just have to change your nature) but it's not exactly a special attacker. It's mainly physical with some special coverage. Dragonite can be special but the only decent special attacker IMO is rain abuser with Thunder and Hurricane and your team is not exactly a rain team.

I think your team would have trouble getting through Gliscor, Landorus-Therian, Venusaur and probably Hippowdon as well. Perhaps something like Starmie, Greninja (with Extrasensory) or Latios/Latias could work out.

Scizor and Tyranitar can be scary offensively, but I think defensive versions of those two are a better fit on your team

Team's looking pretty good so far. It can be better definitely, but it's a good start. If you're raising all of these on cartridge, you'll atleast have a solid base to build a team around, in case you find that your team's not meshing well. For example, if you go offensive on Scizor, Blaziken, Dragonite and Tyranitar (Dragon Dance on the latter two), well you may find your team works very poorly together but hey, when you go on to make your next team, you have 4 very potent pokemon to build around.


I am but at the same time I am not. I am just learning, I have played most of the games but never really bred pokemon until now. I still dont know what EVs are. I just learned what natures are and how to tell what the best ones are for each pokemon/style.

I don't really have access to any of the older games right now and I am avoiding some like greninja charizard venusaur because my wife plans on picking them for her team. But I have many of them in my poke bank for further down the road.

I am also thinking of going umbreon for nostalgia puposes. He can be pretty tanky and annoying i hear with the right move sets.
No one remembers second place
Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 19:59:18
September 06 2014 19:53 GMT
#3956
On August 18 2014 04:54 Zealously wrote:
I just spent the better part of the day transferring all the Pokémon I've gathered over the course of 11 years to my Pokémon Y for no apparent reason other than the fact that having 5 PC boxes full of every half-decent or rare bastard you can think of is extremely satisfying. Digging through boxes in search of my half-forgotten Pokémon Ruby and Emerald cartridges? Check. Going through the tedious and stupid minigames (+"glitches") required to send Pokémon from Gen III to Gen VI? Check. The best part is that I feel like the time was well spent. Damn nostalgia.

Also, if anyone still plays and wants to do stuff (I have perfect torchics and shinies and whatnot), my friend code is 2294 4354 0127


Added you. I am 0559-6814-1430

Edit: I also added Seraph and Onekobold.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 14:28:24
September 07 2014 14:28 GMT
#3957
sorry Beavo for not responding to your PM

I can't get stuff from older games because I don't own a 5th gen game :/ I own 4th gen games but I can't directly transfer them.

edit: Name: B_R
FC: 2595-2293-9344
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Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
September 15 2014 23:06 GMT
#3958
Anyone have enigma berries?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-15 23:18:09
September 15 2014 23:16 GMT
#3959
On September 04 2014 05:23 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 05:15 Beavo wrote:
Him being banned makes sense. I think I am going to go with him anyways because my wife and freind in europe whos gonna play at the same time both want Charizard.

Another random question for my Dragonite. I think the moveset I want to go is:

Outrage
Fly
Thunderbolt/Dragon Dance
Fire punch

on this site it says that he can learn fire punch at level 1. Does this mean as soon as i go to the guy/lady who makes you remember moves i can learn it?

http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/dragonite


Dragonite has Hurricane. Fly is pretty terrible. And a mixed set seems terrible. Most sets have Dragon Dance to make up for his terrible speed.

Due to all the priority setup mons out there I pretty much think ExtremeSpeed is a must. I haven't been to Smogon in a while but something like:

Outrage/Dragon Claw
Earthquake/Fire Punch
ExtremeSpeed
Dragon Dance

Lum Berry

is pretty close to standard. One way of taking advantage of his Multiscale is to set up.

Try looking up movesets as well. I've played for about 2 years now and I still pretty much stick to the recommended sets. After you've understood the game more, you can start swapping moves in.

Blaziken's banned because of Speed Boost. After a Speed Boost or two and maybe a Swords Dance he becomes really hard to deal with with most regular Pokes not named Mega Pinsir or Talonflame.

I think i ran Multiscale/Weakness Policy
Immediatly dragon dance(if they switch or whatever its cool, if not you can activate WP + Dragon dance and seriously wreck kids.)

Dragon Claw/Thunder Punch/Extreme Speed/DD

Also, I'd throw Protean Greninja in there, he's really a staple on ALL of my teams, just because of Protean
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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 00:32:34
September 17 2014 00:30 GMT
#3960
On September 16 2014 08:16 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 05:23 IntoTheEmo wrote:
On September 04 2014 05:15 Beavo wrote:
Him being banned makes sense. I think I am going to go with him anyways because my wife and freind in europe whos gonna play at the same time both want Charizard.

Another random question for my Dragonite. I think the moveset I want to go is:

Outrage
Fly
Thunderbolt/Dragon Dance
Fire punch

on this site it says that he can learn fire punch at level 1. Does this mean as soon as i go to the guy/lady who makes you remember moves i can learn it?

http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/dragonite


Dragonite has Hurricane. Fly is pretty terrible. And a mixed set seems terrible. Most sets have Dragon Dance to make up for his terrible speed.

Due to all the priority setup mons out there I pretty much think ExtremeSpeed is a must. I haven't been to Smogon in a while but something like:

Outrage/Dragon Claw
Earthquake/Fire Punch
ExtremeSpeed
Dragon Dance

Lum Berry

is pretty close to standard. One way of taking advantage of his Multiscale is to set up.

Try looking up movesets as well. I've played for about 2 years now and I still pretty much stick to the recommended sets. After you've understood the game more, you can start swapping moves in.

Blaziken's banned because of Speed Boost. After a Speed Boost or two and maybe a Swords Dance he becomes really hard to deal with with most regular Pokes not named Mega Pinsir or Talonflame.


I think i ran Multiscale/Weakness Policy
Immediatly dragon dance(if they switch or whatever its cool, if not you can activate WP + Dragon dance and seriously wreck kids.)

Dragon Claw/Thunder Punch/Extreme Speed/DD

Also, I'd throw Protean Greninja in there, he's really a staple on ALL of my teams, just because of Protean


Ahh yeah Weakness Policy. Seen that quite a bit too. I think EQ/Fire Punch was for Aegislash (and Ferrothorn/Scizor I guess) pre Aegi ban (haven't been to Smogon after that, so I'm not really up to date with those happenings). Not sure about this, but I think Azumarill can take a Thunderpunch fairly well, and maybe Togekiss isn't that big of a threat in OU?

Anyway, the person I was replying to apparently isn't really planning on going competitive, just toying with the idea of it or something. In which case Greninja isn't as good I think? I doubt it'd be able to 1 shot that many things in the Maison. It can't really take hits, like good ol Alakazam.

I've been using Talonflame/Aegislash on most of mine. It's nice to be able to fall back on a safe cleaner. Will be more active again when ORAS hits and the meta changes again.
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