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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 14 2017 08:14 GMT
#121
Checked this game out before for an hour or so, but did not really like linear levels.

This update definitely looks interesting!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 14 2017 11:48 GMT
#122
for me its walking in between the action and other timewasters. But its a different look and new enemies. Freaking artillery :D .
But the watch Warframe streams for rewards seems to be working extremely well.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-17 15:58:16
October 17 2017 15:51 GMT
#123
I've been grinding this game on and off for a couple of years. For those who only want to farm the best stuff, here is a list of frames/weapons considered top tier in the recent patches:

DPS Frames:
    Banshee: AOE CC and Dmg, primed version available
    Mesa: her 4th ability is just a press to win key, you can pretty much steal all the kills/dmg from your teammates with this frame.
    A lot more can go in this list, but these two are my personal favorite

Tanking Frames:
    Nidus
    Chroma
    Inaros
    I don't like to play tanks in this game, these are just what most players use

CC/Utility/Support Frames:
    Frost: Prime version is free with twitch prime
    Trinity: Considered best support in the game, primed version available
    Octavia: You can customize her music, good CC

Melee Weapons:
    Galatine Prime: known by the community as the room blender
    Atterax: if you like whips
    War: easy to get from quest
    Nikana Prime: one of the best fast hitting weapons

Shotguns:
    Tigris Prime: high dmg weapon with high status chance
    Sancti Tigris: similar to above
    Vaykor Hek: similar to above, with more ammo and less dmg
    Shotguns are super OP in this game, with maxed out mods they can 1 shot anything from a very long distance, you can even use them as snipers, these are my go to primary weapons

Rifles:
    Soma Prime: Long been considered as a DPS staple
    Tenora: this one is newer, but feels pretty good so far
    I think rifles do not do enough damage for high end content compared to shotguns, but fast fire rate is good for general farming

Launchers (will blow yourself up a lot with these):
    Zarr
    Opticor
    Tonkor (recently nerfed, this weapon used to not deal self damage, which was broken as hell)

Secondary Weapons:
    Akstiletto Prime: high rate of fire, feels like a high dps machine gun
    Euphona Prime: this is just a mini shotgun, 1 shots trash mobs
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
October 17 2017 20:07 GMT
#124
i use this as my warframe bible
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qvJYN9hpPMVePewg6zYhFXTIZqHyR1Gi9dDCfnF0wi4/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
October 17 2017 20:28 GMT
#125
On October 18 2017 05:07 ahswtini wrote:
i use this as my warframe bible
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qvJYN9hpPMVePewg6zYhFXTIZqHyR1Gi9dDCfnF0wi4/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

A list this well organized makes me more interested in the game than anything else lol

I remember playing this ages ago back when it was in beta. Seems like there's been a sudden boom with the new update. Might have to give it a shot again. Are there major differences between PC and console versions? I assume the accounts aren't shared either.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
October 17 2017 20:43 GMT
#126
Console versions are always behind on patches. Like Plains of Eidolon hit PCs already, but not consoles yet.
Yes, I also use a list very similar to the one linked above compiled by players for newbies. This game does have quite a bit of depth to it, and also does a piss poor job of feeding you the necessary info. Been playing for around ~3 weeks now and am having fun. The grind is real and sometimes unbearable but overall pretty well designed.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
PunitiveDamages
Profile Joined June 2009
United States131 Posts
October 18 2017 02:53 GMT
#127
On October 18 2017 05:07 ahswtini wrote:
i use this as my warframe bible
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qvJYN9hpPMVePewg6zYhFXTIZqHyR1Gi9dDCfnF0wi4/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

Thank you so much for posting this.

My friend and I just got back into this game after ~4 years of not playing and we had no idea what was any good. This is exactly what we were looking for.
BW forever
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
October 18 2017 15:46 GMT
#128
A good resources for newer players:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vR41ia5_FmKfyfL9oGakbTc1qkzDJuL3AQ7-F40gmW4/edit#heading=h.govkubc266rr

Also this youtube series:
+ Show Spoiler +


Damage explanation:
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler +
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a site for builds: http://warframe-builder.com/Warframes
a site where you can buy/sell in-game items for PLATINUM (which you will need for weapon/warframe slots) https://warframe.market/

and ofc the wiki itself, because the game does a piss poor job of explaining anything really:
http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/WARFRAME_Wiki
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
October 18 2017 17:19 GMT
#129
After completing the star chart and quests, you pretty much need the wiki open at all times to know where to farm for anything in this game. Also you need to save all your plat for item slots if you plan on playing for free.
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
October 22 2017 06:03 GMT
#130
The gameplay seems fun but not a lot of things are explained. For example why is melee attacking default with "e" instead of the more intuitive left mouse button. When I click the left mouse button (at least in my case) nothing happens in terms of attacking but my screen gets all yellow as if I am about to cast some spell
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21563 Posts
October 22 2017 10:09 GMT
#131
On October 22 2017 15:03 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
The gameplay seems fun but not a lot of things are explained. For example why is melee attacking default with "e" instead of the more intuitive left mouse button. When I click the left mouse button (at least in my case) nothing happens in terms of attacking but my screen gets all yellow as if I am about to cast some spell

left click while your melee weapon is out is Channeling.

It increases damage at the cost of energy and there are mods that interact with it, including one that heals you when you hit with a channeled attack.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-03 00:49:34
November 03 2017 00:46 GMT
#132
This game is fucking sick. I honestly don't remember how long ago I played the beta (briefly) for the first time or how much has changed since then. I'm basically approaching it as a whole new game. But god damn is it fun already. I'm still a babby; I just got to Venus after a few hours + some practice/tutorials for beginners and movement and such. Still using Excalibur and the super basic starter stuff until I max it for mastery. I did get some bonus rewards via Twitch Prime but haven't touched em yet, or even know if they're better or worse.

The mobility is intoxicating. At worst it's still an engaging shooter where you run around looting stuff and killing basic enemies with weapons that feel satisfying. But with the right environments, enemy waves, weapons, etc it just escalates to something crazy and unique and a blast. It feels like a game without rules, where any goofy combination of shit I do not only works but rewards me and puts a smile on my face.

The guides posted higher up on this page are great. If anyone has nay quick bullet points on noobie advice or "wish I'd known this in my first X hours" stuff feel free to spill it haha. I'm trying to spend minimal resources until I actually understand what's going on and how progression works.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-03 05:54:10
November 03 2017 05:24 GMT
#133
On November 03 2017 09:46 Duka08 wrote:
This game is fucking sick. I honestly don't remember how long ago I played the beta (briefly) for the first time or how much has changed since then. I'm basically approaching it as a whole new game. But god damn is it fun already. I'm still a babby; I just got to Venus after a few hours + some practice/tutorials for beginners and movement and such. Still using Excalibur and the super basic starter stuff until I max it for mastery. I did get some bonus rewards via Twitch Prime but haven't touched em yet, or even know if they're better or worse.

The mobility is intoxicating. At worst it's still an engaging shooter where you run around looting stuff and killing basic enemies with weapons that feel satisfying. But with the right environments, enemy waves, weapons, etc it just escalates to something crazy and unique and a blast. It feels like a game without rules, where any goofy combination of shit I do not only works but rewards me and puts a smile on my face.

The guides posted higher up on this page are great. If anyone has nay quick bullet points on noobie advice or "wish I'd known this in my first X hours" stuff feel free to spill it haha. I'm trying to spend minimal resources until I actually understand what's going on and how progression works.

Resources are all possible to farm and it's definitely possible to make ~40platinum per hour, so it's not extremely rare. I still recommend using Plat on warframe and weapon slots early on, mainly because I really don't like selling my guns all the time.

My biggest advice is probably: Don't build the gorgon. It's abysmal.
Also don't be too stingy with your potatoes. If you really like a weapon and it's disposition 3 or better, you can likely clear the entire content of the game with it if you double the capacity.

I love movement in the game, but I don't feel like the game really rewards that movement at all outside of rushing low lvl missions. Especially Grineer will just shoot you down later, no matter how fast you are going.

Which is exemplary for the game. There's a lot of cool stuff, but they didn' really think about how it actually plays out. If they just made a buy2play version and invested time into really thinking their elements through instead of rushing out new content to keep the community going and buying the game would probably be a lot better.

The game is still fun and all and i have like 450 hours of playtime of a f2p game, so it's whining on a high level I guess. Still feels to me like they could have done so much more with it.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany534 Posts
November 03 2017 05:43 GMT
#134
On November 03 2017 09:46 Duka08 wrote:
I did get some bonus rewards via Twitch Prime but haven't touched em yet, or even know if they're better or worse.

The guides posted higher up on this page are great. If anyone has nay quick bullet points on noobie advice or "wish I'd known this in my first X hours" stuff feel free to spill it haha. I'm trying to spend minimal resources until I actually understand what's going on and how progression works.


The Twitch Prime bonus stuff is actually fairly good. The Soma Prime is one of the best automatic rifles in the game and worth to invest Forma into. Frost Prime is a solid frame to get into party play, although not top tier anymore. Scindo Prime is similar in terms of its power, so it's a decent weapon for now - certainly better than the stuff new players start with.

Advice I would give is to watch the alerts for things like Forma and Orokin Catalyst/Reactor Blueprints. Those make all your frames and weapons and stuff work and are essential for later stage gameplay.
Also get a sentinel with Vacuum asap, it's probably one of the best quality of life things in the game.

I came back to the game with Plains of Idolon as well. I played a shit ton during closed beta and tried to get back into the game ~3 years ago. Back then I didn't have the time to get familiar with all the new mechanics as I had more important things in my life at that point. But now that I have some time to spend to really get back into it, it's been a blast so far.

Feel free to contact me in the game if you need advice, help with something or just someone to talk to and play with. I still have a clan dojo from way back when that enables trading and research. Name's the same as here.
ApatheticSchizoid
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Canada85 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-03 09:47:01
November 03 2017 09:43 GMT
#135
I've been recommended this game to solve my grinding needs, but I'm not sure about it. I used to enjoy games like Tibia and flyff which were pretty hardcore on farming. Both levels and items. So I'm not too sure where this game holds up to them.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 03 2017 13:09 GMT
#136
I would rate it as a grind game. The gameplay is different from Flyff though (and grind probably not that insane). So testing it out is the only option I guess.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21563 Posts
November 03 2017 13:16 GMT
#137
The wonderful thing about Warframe is that its f2p so there is no excuse to not try it out.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-03 15:50:27
November 03 2017 15:48 GMT
#138
On November 03 2017 14:24 Archeon wrote:
but I don't feel like the game really rewards that movement at all outside of rushing low lvl missions

I should clarify, I don't necessarily mean rewarding like survival or anything beyond just getting around faster. I don't expect quick movement and tons of bullet jumping to stop the AI from hitting me with hitscan lol. I just mean psychologically and fun-wise. Things just work like you expect, or if they surprise you it's in a satisfying and silly way. Like I said, "no rules". In typical (especially 3rd person) shooters you can usually break everything down in a basic way. You can move. You can jump. You can crouch. You can sprint. They're all like, quantized, individual features. In Warframe everything interacts in a really cool way. It's like a power fantasy, but from a mechanical perspective, not "my character is OP" but "they allow me the player to feel OP just by experimenting with different combinations of shit".

Thanks for all the notes by the way everyone. Expect to log a bunch of hours this weekend and start dabbling with the other weapons/frames I've got already. When is it reasonable to start actually working toward / farming for specific weapons or frames? Should I keep an eye on something right now right off the bat? Or should I just dink around with the starter (and twitch prime stuff) until I'm many planets in for example. I guess I could rephrase this like: if/when does the game turn over from being focused on working toward the next junction(s) to more open ended "just grinding for that thing you want"?

One thing that came up in the above posts that I hadn't thought much about was group play. Is it typical to pug content? Is there a substantial reward to grouping/pugging content rather than soloing? Or a substantial amount of content that's difficult/impossible to solo at all? I figured I'd mostly be playing solo, just by personal preference mostly, and even if I got some friends into it you never know how many hours someone will end up putting in.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21563 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-03 16:07:26
November 03 2017 16:06 GMT
#139
I would start looking at other weapons/frames when your current one is nearing max mastery (30) or just when you want to change things up. Easy enough to go back and level stuff later if your bored of it right now.

When you start grinding depends a lot on what you like and how you play I guess. You can safely wait and unlock the entire map before grinding stuff, or you can do it in little bits as you complete planets (like get the warframe that drops from the planet boss every time).

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12345 Posts
November 04 2017 01:08 GMT
#140
On November 03 2017 22:16 Gorsameth wrote:
The wonderful thing about Warframe is that its f2p so there is no excuse to not try it out.

This is such a dangerous mindset :p
I am tempted but I already got destiny 2 for my grinding needs and monster hunter world is also coming eventually.

I am also playing disgaea 5 on my switch. They are sucking all my time away
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
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