I recommend you to check out the game Waframe. Here is the first trailer:
Here is an overview of the game:
It is 3rd person co-oop free to play hack and slash rpg.
Basically the game plays a lot like Mass Effect 2-3 but faster, like Vanquish (pretty good PS3 game) and then you add in the free to play and hero picking and upgrading element like in LoL. It also has some Metal Gear Rising elements too it. Just look for yourself.
Right now there are only about 2000 players, and the 50 or so I have met, were not communicative at all. If there are ~4 players in a game the game becomes much harder and better (like in Serious Sam there are 4 times more enemys). Also I think every game gets better when you play it with someone from TL.
Right now i feel like it doesn't take long to get into the beta. If you invite 3 friends you get in faster, so maybe we should post our referal links, register via them until 3 guys did it and then move on to the next. Since I'm already in, we'll just start with the first one who posts.
Definitely looks super interesting. I've been looking for good coop games (that I haven't completed multiple times already) for a while and this looks very promising. Signed up, but I don't see a referral link either ...
On December 27 2012 05:46 nanaoei wrote: looks amazing. reminds me of evangelion
i think i'm missing the important bits though, where are you supposed to sign up for the beta or get your referral link?
https://warframe.com/signup here is the beta signup, once you get a beta key you need to signup again with your registered alias and the key though
when i registered i got a referal link in the confirmation e-mail, maybe they changed it though
On December 27 2012 05:51 tyr wrote: Definitely looks super interesting. I've been looking for good coop games (that I haven't completed multiple times already) for a while and this looks very promising. Signed up, but I don't see a referral link either ...
I think the game is basically play forever:
you start on one planet and work your way towards another, you can repeat the ones you did already (even though you level and the enemys strength of a certain level doesn't change according to it, just according to the number of players)
however, there are 100s of missions and all the levels seem to be semi random (i just repeated two so far), where some setpieces are the same but the architecture is different - think diablo 2
The game is pretty cool though the tutorial could be more thorough, the sliding and other acrobatics were not explained well there. I guess that could be intentional with them wanting you to figure it out for yourself but sliding and all this other cool stuff is pretty cool as it is a 3rd person game.
Edit: Also, wtf? Did mmobomb just increase the keys? I swear they were 1000 an hour ago and now they are 5000...
Okay I've played for ~4hrs now, together with a friend. At first I thought it was rather bland as every level basically looks the same but actually got used to it after a while. The AI is indeed pretty bad, once you know what certain enemies are capable of it's pretty easy to get rid of them. Cash shop prices are way over the top imo, this is really unfortunate as the game itself begins to grow on me, despite it's flaws.
One thing that really bothers me is that I can't change general mouse sensitivity ( only for aim mode ). It's way too fast for my taste.
Has anyone progressed really far into the game? I cleared all of Mercury, found the other systems too hard to solo and I couldn't find anyone to matchmake with. When I tried the non-Mercury levels, they seemed like the same layout and general look which lead me to think the game currently does not have much to offer, even if their ideas are really nice.
i am beginning to see soem flaws cropping up, but i believe the potential is pretty high at the moment. i really hope the dev team addresses soem of the fan-base demands
Saw this game on steam today. Seems like it's launched now. I installed and played it and found it surprisingly fun and interesting. Might actually stick with it for a while. Anyone play this (and any still playing from beta)?
i played it today, but i feel like this game is designed around making people pay as much as possible.
I dont feel like i can just play and enjoy myself like in other free to play games like League of Legends. In this game i feel pressure to pay money every time i finish a mission.
On March 27 2013 23:09 PassiveAce wrote: thats how I felt about league haha.
but this game is worse.
it wants you to not only buy classes, but also weapons and those upgrades that make you way more powerful and cant be bought by the ingame currency. Also, you cant just buy stuff when you have enough ingame currency, you can only buy a blueprint, which then needs materials and then is crafting for a few days.
Thats just not my thing, i can live with having to grind for a new class for a few dozent hours like in league. But selling power and make buying with ingame currency really painful is too much for me.
I played this game for like an hour and I felt like I was blind from all the bloom. There is twice as much bloom in warframe as I've seen in every other game.
Also it just felt like an arcade game to me where you just run and gun and slash and don't have to bother thinking about anything which is really disappointing for a 3ps. Was hoping for an ME2 or GA kind of thing.
On March 27 2013 23:09 PassiveAce wrote: thats how I felt about league haha.
but this game is worse.
it wants you to not only buy classes, but also weapons and those upgrades that make you way more powerful and cant be bought by the ingame currency. Also, you cant just buy stuff when you have enough ingame currency, you can only buy a blueprint, which then needs materials and then is crafting for a few days.
Thats just not my thing, i can live with having to grind for a new class for a few dozent hours like in league. But selling power and make buying with ingame currency really painful is too much for me.
On March 27 2013 23:03 LaNague wrote: i played it today, but i feel like this game is designed around making people pay as much as possible. I dont feel like i can just play and enjoy myself like in other free to play games like League of Legends. In this game i feel pressure to pay money every time i finish a mission.
I feel it's the opposite. In LoL you can't get access to certain heroes that are essential to the current metagame instantly. Given it's a PvP game, this is important. Also requiring you to be lvl 30 to be truly competitive in a PvP setting is forcing the issue of paying to play to hardcore newbies trying to play with their friends that have been playing for a while. (note that both our arguments are irrelevant to the casual, as they don't care about getting everything asap)
One of the main reason I love Dota 2 over LoL is the fact that every hero is available to me at the beginning, allowing me to bring friends reasonably experience with Dota 1 and HoN, and even LoL into the game immediately. I couldn't do this with LoL because of all the leveling up that's required. This problem is in all games with a level up system, but in Warframes, which is PvE centered, the problem is much less impeding to the entertainment factor. Friends can "run" you through levels to get you fast exp if you really want to rush to their level. Not possible in LoL.
On March 27 2013 23:09 PassiveAce wrote: thats how I felt about league haha.
but this game is worse.
it wants you to not only buy classes, but also weapons and those upgrades that make you way more powerful and cant be bought by the ingame currency. Also, you cant just buy stuff when you have enough ingame currency, you can only buy a blueprint, which then needs materials and then is crafting for a few days.
Thats just not my thing, i can live with having to grind for a new class for a few dozent hours like in league. But selling power and make buying with ingame currency really painful is too much for me.
I disagree. I found that most things you don't have to spend money for. If you want instant gratification you can buy stuff, but like they said on their website, most of the stuff you have to find during missions and is not available in the shop. One example is a rare long sword blueprint I picked up yesterday. I looked on the store and nothing of the sort was found.
Also, talking about blueprints, I like the idea, and EVERYTHING except instant gratification items like instant max level weapons (seiously, where's the fun in that...just makes the game boring imo) minus 1-2 items that aren't even that strong (like the fang dual wield swords) can be made with blueprints, which to me translates to end game equality between paying and non-paying players. It's a good way to keep you invested in the game (from a development standpoint) and every single material you need to craft them can be found during missions.
Your expectation from a free to play game is way too high. Even monthly subscription and initial purchase games have longer grind times. Take a look at GW2 or WoW. Look at Planetside 2 or Global Agenda. Those are F2P games that makes you feel like pay to win. Nearly 1/2 the stuff there is impossible to obtain with in game currency. This game, 95% is obtainable over (a reasonable amount of) time with in game currency. I love the idea (business and F2P development standpoint) of making everything obtainable for free over time, but giving the option of instant gratification via real money currency.
On March 28 2013 00:24 Kaal wrote: I played this game for like an hour and I felt like I was blind from all the bloom. There is twice as much bloom in warframe as I've seen in every other game.
Also it just felt like an arcade game to me where you just run and gun and slash and don't have to bother thinking about anything which is really disappointing for a 3ps. Was hoping for an ME2 or GA kind of thing.
This is definitely the one thing I am annoyed with in this game. Hurts my eyes after a while. Hope they change this or add a setting to modify intensity.
I found the game a lot of fun though I've only played solo. Once you beat the first few levels and leave the system you start having to use skill, and customizing your 'frame and guns with mods can get pretty enjoyable. If you ever need credits you can just grind the first assassination mission and sell the cronos blueprints (once you make it), since that boss will drop them 100% of the time.
If anyone is just starting I'd advise mainly leveling your pistol and getting the either the sword or your shotgun (whichever comes first). The burst-fire rifle is good, but the shotgun is just amazingly powerful especially with mods. The machine pistol is fun, but your starting one is nothing to sneeze at.
I've been playing this game off and on for awhile now. Have a few lvl 30 warframes and weapons. The latest update resetting everything really hurt though lol.
Like some posters have said, it's possible to get pretty much everything from just playing/grinding areas. The only (very annoying) exception to this is Orokin catalysts and reactors which are disgustingly rare considering how good they are (doubling the mod potential of any given warframe/weapon). But it IS possible to get them if you play enough. Or alternatively, they're relatively cheap to buy via platinum (real money).
That being said, I find the game quite enjoyable to play for shorter stretches at a time. The controls and overall responsiveness are nice and there is a pretty nice selection of weapons/warframes that are fairly unique from each other.
I've just started playing this game recently after it was released on Steam, here's my take on it.
1) It's extremely fun....in groups. Solo is pretty boring and the social aspect does not exist, just like battlenet 2.0. Take note tho, this game is basically P2P connection. Your game is hosted on the group leader's computer/network. This leads to many instances of laggyness. For example: If that guy is from US and your from SG(me), dont expect to have a good game. Lag WILL be insane. Another issue is sometimes your game clients just wont be able to connect to each other. I have this friend who is unable to connect to me or my other friends sometimes, without any reasons. He has his ports opened etc and it still wont work right.
2) The grind is pretty fun. I actually enjoy this non-instant gratification system of buying blueprints & making things from them from resources gathered from missions.
3) Gameplay wise, from what i can see (Rank30 Volt), the game is pretty balanced at my level, but i've heard stories of how shotguns/pistols outperform rifles because of how much better their mods are compared to rifles. I personally have only played rifles and i find the damage adequate(provided you aim for the weak points like you should)
Mods wise, this game needs to better explain how the things work. For example, what the hell is multishot? what does it do? How are damage calculated? Elemental damage? I had to do lots of research on forums & warframe wiki to find out exactly what does what. I can see why this game is in Beta, there's lots of things to be done, but if you treat this as a grind & play MMORPS(kinda like Diablo 3), and just play on this game is worth it. The sense of satisfaction when you finally start crafting your item/warframe after farming so long, is great.
I give this game 8/10. Sure there's plenty of things to improve, but it has a great start imo. I can see myself playing this game in absence of a true grinding game like Diablo2....and i like shooting things
I don't know whats up with people bitching about this game selling power or whatever. Its not the case at all. All items that make you more powerful can be found or bought with currency and its not that hard to come by. Been playing for 3 days now and I have most the things I want for 1 specific character.
If you want huge variety, different colours etc then yes, paying money is necessary.
The game itself is huge fun co-op and decent fun solo. Trying to stealth through levels feels MGSish.
This is the best third person shooter I have played hands down, I would highly recommend at least trying this for anyone that enjoys co-op.
9/10.
edit: Netcoding in this game is some of the best I have seen as well. Playable for me with american host while torrenting gg.
Had a lot of fun tonight with one of my friends. Seems like it's going to suck ass trying to build the Trinity frame... blew my first 25k on it thinking I could use materials I had been collecting to build it. Turns out the wiki says I have to fight my way to Earth, beat the boss multiple times to collect all the pieces, build those pieces, use said pieces to build my frame.
On April 02 2013 13:48 Risen wrote: Had a lot of fun tonight with one of my friends. Seems like it's going to suck ass trying to build the Trinity frame... blew my first 25k on it thinking I could use materials I had been collecting to build it. Turns out the wiki says I have to fight my way to Earth, beat the boss multiple times to collect all the pieces, build those pieces, use said pieces to build my frame.
You'll get money fairly fast don't worry about that. Might take awhile to get the frame pieces though, I have been trying to get Loki pieces for awhile now and only have 1/3 T.T
Feel free to ask anything about warframe here...the game is confusing starting out, so I will do a few tips here.
1) Aim for weakspots:- Grindeer (head/face), Corpus Machines(basically the joint connecting the 2 legs, the head is a gun turret), Corpus Crewmember (body, unless you have Armor Piercing then go for the head).....Infested Dogs go for the face/snout, rest of infested go for the right knee(the left when its facing you)...there's a Red eye at the knee. Shoot it.
2) Look at the modifications. Top right shows its Polarity(type), left will have a slot that indicates the card level...and the right side number refers to how many modification slots it takes to use that mod. Increasing the card level will increase the amount of modification slots required to use it.
3) Fastest way to increase weapon damage is to get max Armor Piercing & max Multi hit. Those 2 should be able to clear most things that you face without costing too much.
Slide canceling: While sprinting you can slide by hitting the crouch key (ctrl by default I believe). At the start of the slide you maintain your sprint speed (actually might be a little faster) for awhile before you start to slow down. So by sliding for brief bursts while sprinting you can maintain full sprint speed while regening stamina. Basically lets you sprint forever without need for stamina increase/regen mods.
Corpus laser doors: Most annoying things EVER. However, you can go right through them with various charge abilities (slash dash, et. all) and you can actually just sprint slide right through them as well.
Infested swarms: I know I had some trouble with getting swamped by infested when I was first starting out. Especially if playing solo. Against most infested, jumping on a large enough crate or other type of platform completely neuters them. Even the ancients generally won't attack you (depending on the height/positioning). So you can just sit up there and blast away.
Love that feeling when playing Volt, using sprint skill and timing a heavy strike with my skana perfectly. I think that's the most satisfying feeling I've ever experienced in a game!
On April 02 2013 18:54 TOCHMY wrote: Love that feeling when playing Volt, using sprint skill and timing a heavy strike with my skana perfectly. I think that's the most satisfying feeling I've ever experienced in a game!
Agreed, the combat elements in this game do feel very satisfying, watching people go flying then get pinned to walls by bow or bolter and the feedback of eviscerating people/infested with swords and axes is great xD
I do feel as though the parkour elements could use a bit more work though, particularly wall running.
Some other stuff:
Slide canceling: While sprinting you can slide by hitting the crouch key (ctrl by default I believe). At the start of the slide you maintain your sprint speed (actually might be a little faster) for awhile before you start to slow down. So by sliding for brief bursts while sprinting you can maintain full sprint speed while regening stamina. Basically lets you sprint forever without need for stamina increase/regen mods.
Corpus laser doors: Most annoying things EVER. However, you can go right through them with various charge abilities (slash dash, et. all) and you can actually just sprint slide right through them as well.
Infested swarms: I know I had some trouble with getting swamped by infested when I was first starting out. Especially if playing solo. Against most infested, jumping on a large enough crate or other type of platform completely neuters them. Even the ancients generally won't attack you (depending on the height/positioning). So you can just sit up there and blast away.
Getting zorens or gram makes infested a cakewalk, zorens even at lvl 1 will absolutely shred the chargers which are the main threat on infested maps.
Anyone know where to get crits reliably on the ancients? I read to aim for knees/arms but it seems sporadic at best.
On April 02 2013 18:54 TOCHMY wrote: Love that feeling when playing Volt, using sprint skill and timing a heavy strike with my skana perfectly. I think that's the most satisfying feeling I've ever experienced in a game!
Agreed, the combat elements in this game do feel very satisfying, watching people go flying then get pinned to walls by bow or bolter and the feedback of eviscerating people/infested with swords and axes is great xD
I do feel as though the parkour elements could use a bit more work though, particularly wall running.
Slide canceling: While sprinting you can slide by hitting the crouch key (ctrl by default I believe). At the start of the slide you maintain your sprint speed (actually might be a little faster) for awhile before you start to slow down. So by sliding for brief bursts while sprinting you can maintain full sprint speed while regening stamina. Basically lets you sprint forever without need for stamina increase/regen mods.
Corpus laser doors: Most annoying things EVER. However, you can go right through them with various charge abilities (slash dash, et. all) and you can actually just sprint slide right through them as well.
Infested swarms: I know I had some trouble with getting swamped by infested when I was first starting out. Especially if playing solo. Against most infested, jumping on a large enough crate or other type of platform completely neuters them. Even the ancients generally won't attack you (depending on the height/positioning). So you can just sit up there and blast away.
Getting zorens or gram makes infested a cakewalk, zorens even at lvl 1 will absolutely shred the chargers which are the main threat on infested maps.
Anyone know where to get crits reliably on the ancients? I read to aim for knees/arms but it seems sporadic at best.
Crits are crits(yellow dmg)...weak spots are weak spots(double your shot damage). Their two different things. Each gun/weapon has its inbuilt crit %, which can only be modified by crit chance modification cards...which are pretty weak btw. Example:- a gun that has 5% base crit rate...getting a +60% crit rate means its only 5 + (0.6*5) % making it one of the weakest damage increasing mod out there.
Weak spots are places where dmg itself is mutiplied by a %...example off the top of my head i remember Corpus Crewmembers having +2000% dmg to Armor Piercing on their head. Because of how Corpus Crewmembers having full immunity to Normal damage, this +2000% to AP dmg is actually still fair.
Ancients weakspot are still their knees. Its funny when you have a Paris(bow) user in your party though, the skyrim "arrow to the knee" jokes still doesnt get old hahaha. Especially if you manage to pin a Ancient to the wall with a arrow to the knee Another ancient weak spot is using charged melee attacks, those are still pretty effective against the ancients because charged melee attacks go through armor....or use Fire Elements, those things does extra damage to Infected.
Personally my Boltor has max AP & multi shot, with 5/10 Serration(no $$) and a basic Freeze/Fire Rate/Crit chance mod is pretty darn powerful against anything in the game. I love my damage, just that how I wish that my gun was actually usable past mid range compared to Bratons lol.
Getting zorens or gram makes infested a cakewalk, zorens even at lvl 1 will absolutely shred the chargers which are the main threat on infested maps.
Anyone know where to get crits reliably on the ancients? I read to aim for knees/arms but it seems sporadic at best.
Depends on your weapon and mods. If you have any piercing I think you can headshot them, which I thought was their main weak spot until I took my piercing off my Lex and was no longer using one clip per ancient.
Otherwise aim for the eye on their knee (a lot easier if you use ironsights). This is less convenient if you're trying to abuse jumping on crates than the head. Or just get a shotgun and load it up with armor pen and elemental damage to rip them apart-cold damage is the mortal enemy of the ancients.
Getting zorens or gram makes infested a cakewalk, zorens even at lvl 1 will absolutely shred the chargers which are the main threat on infested maps.
Anyone know where to get crits reliably on the ancients? I read to aim for knees/arms but it seems sporadic at best.
Depends on your weapon and mods. If you have any piercing I think you can headshot them, which I thought was their main weak spot until I took my piercing off my Lex and was no longer using one clip per ancient.
Otherwise aim for the eye on their knee (a lot easier if you use ironsights). This is less convenient if you're trying to abuse jumping on crates than the head. Or just get a shotgun and load it up with armor pen and elemental damage to rip them apart-cold damage is the mortal enemy of the ancients.
On April 10 2013 11:34 Dizmaul wrote: When you pick a stage and it has the levels of it like 1-3, does that mean you should be ok if your warframe is around the same level?
That means the level ranges of the enemies are 1-3. Generally (but not always, depending on your frame type) you should be okay if you're towards the high end.
On April 06 2013 11:57 Conquest101 wrote: So I went ahead and created a Teamliquid clan in game.
I'm not sure if we want to do it that way or maybe do something through Steam instead (or both). But having a clan channel in game is probably useful.
Anyways, add me in game @ Conquest101 or post your in game name here and I'll add you.
My name is the same as my username: "inn5013orecl". Add me to the clan.
No idea how clans work in this game, but my ign is "LazyFailKid"
It's under contacts, you'll see pending clan invites under the clan tab...but the annoying part is, you don't actually see the clan name until you accept it...there was only one for me, so i guess pretty obvious it was from TL
On April 06 2013 11:57 Conquest101 wrote: So I went ahead and created a Teamliquid clan in game.
I'm not sure if we want to do it that way or maybe do something through Steam instead (or both). But having a clan channel in game is probably useful.
Anyways, add me in game @ Conquest101 or post your in game name here and I'll add you.
My name is the same as my username: "inn5013orecl". Add me to the clan.
No idea how clans work in this game, but my ign is "LazyFailKid"
Invite sent to those who've asked so far. I plan to just go ahead and promote you guys as you accept for now which I think gives you the option to invite people as well. Feel free to invite your friends/other TLers you might know. This thread really isn't too active atm.
Clans in general are kinda barebones right now. Hopefully, DE will add a better interface/more functionality as time goes by.
On April 15 2013 14:00 Dubzex wrote: Are there any stats on drop rates of warframe parts? I feel like the helm is at least 15-20% and everything else is below 10%.
I've been playing a little. I love the blueprint system. All the items you wants to have are long to get (for exemple, if you want a warframe, you need the blueprint for the whole thing, the 3 blueprints for the different parts, and the ingredients for each blueprints) but at the same time they are not too random as the bosses who loot the said blueprints almost loots them at a 100% chance after like 5 run which is ridiculously low. In the end, it's not a completly random adventure but rather a long and rather sure process of building your own equipment.
The mod is also great and has the same design : you starts by looting a lot of shitty mods, and if you are as dumb as me, you'll sell them. Then, at one point I understood that you could (had) to fuse shitty mods together to build good mods. Since shitty mods havea high % drop rate, it's not random, but again to get a really good mod, you have to fuse a shit ton of mods, so it's still long and rewarding.
Well, I only have the heart, the chassis and the blueprint for ember right now ;D Pimpin my warframe.
On May 14 2013 22:46 talktativetim wrote: add me up akawishbones is my id
how do i sell stuff?
You can sell Blueprints, Warframes, Weapons, and various other equipable items from your Inventory, which can be found in the Arsenel. You can sell Mods from the Mods screen, also in the Arsenel.
I've been playing this game a lot for the past few days and it's really fun. Currently topping off my lvl 4 mastery so I can get a hek. How is the TL guild doing?
I just downloaded and started playing the game, seems pretty damn awesome so far. Is the TL guild still up and running? Also, is this game solo-able or do you have to find parties and stuff?
Anybody playing this? I picked it up a few days ago, seems pretty popular with 10k+ online on steam, top 10 played iirc.
Im Capped in-game if anyone wants to add me and play :-) Rank 2 mastery :-(
Spent all day yesterday farming infestations and managed to build/buy Burston/Braton+Lex+Orthos for my Excalibur. Not sure what to do next XD farm for a 2nd frame i guess!
EDIT: So i joined a clan today and now im sitting here talking to them in their raidcall with somebody who works for DE (Digital extremes, the company that develops it.) apparently this clans a "big deal"
On June 06 2014 22:46 Capped wrote: EDIT: So i joined a clan today and now im sitting here talking to them in their raidcall with somebody who works for DE (Digital extremes, the company that develops it.) apparently this clans a "big deal"
Snap, lol, you got lucky there. X-D
I'm "AnaxofRhodes" in-game. Been playing since November/December. Rank 10, Leader of Four Corners clan (10 people, only have it for minimal resource requirements, lol), favorite frame is Volt with power and efficiency mods, loadout is Soma and Despair with Dual Kamas - Swirling Tiger stance. I'm like Static Shock.
On June 11 2014 16:53 Khalum wrote: I haven't used my soma since damage 2.0 went live; Still have a crit build modded in there. What is the current "proper" way to mod the rifle?
Still the same basic setup of maxed Serration/Barrel Diffusion on the polarities and Point Strike/Vital Sense for the crit chance and damage mods. Slap on relevant elements/banes for the factions and you're set. Its still the same crit machine it always was, and is still one of the highest dps weapons in the game
So apparently tomorrow's update will bring us a PVP mode, and they are partnered with ESL for an announcement next month. Who is going pro in warframe? :D
On July 16 2014 03:12 FLeK0 wrote: So apparently tomorrow's update will bring us a PVP mode, and they are partnered with ESL for an announcement next month. Who is going pro in warframe? :D
What? I don't see this turning into PvP well. They tried that with Conclaves but I've only seen a handful of people do that.
Dev time spent on PvP means dev time not spent on PvE/fixing bugs/etc. I think it's a bad move on DE's part.
Been playing this for months off and on and just recently been giving it heavy run. Amazing fun. Saryn is such a godframe but takes a lot of modding to become the best DPS frame in the game.
Im in a guild but willing to leave if the TL guild is active. What's going on over there?
Update 15... is so good, they introduced so much, the main thing being archwing, also introduced a new warframe, game modes, imma just link you the patch notes..
if you've stopped playing warframe, now would be a good time to pick it up again, the lame thing is all the waiting to make your archwing.. but it's worth it =D
Started this game last night, it's rather fun! The default controls are lacking in sense but I'm working that out slowly. Is this still a thing with folks here? The tutorial was very awesome if you haven't played in a long time or are a new player looking to check it out.
You'll want to kill Ordis after ~2-3 days I'd say.
And about the controls (assuming you play on PC): Make sure to rebind either crouch or sprint or both or you'll get serious problems with your pinky, especially if you play for several hours at a time.
They all seem to be separate. PC gets updates first (and often) from my experience over the past week. This game is legit addicting and fun. The wiki is basically going to be my homepage soon.
If you end up playing on PC, the clan I joined is very friendly and outgoing towards new players.
20 platinum for 1 Warframe slot, 12 for 2 weapon slots. It's rather easy to make that much platinum when you sell syndicate weapons or mods people are after. In terms of real life money, it's basically nothing. The cheapest plat package gives you 75 plat and costs 4.5$.
Hit a grinding wall after about a week or two of playing. Progress almost completely stopped. Was fun up untill that point. Soloing gets you bored like that at such a point in any game I guess.
On February 01 2015 09:35 dfs wrote: Hit a grinding wall after about a week or two of playing. Progress almost completely stopped. Was fun up untill that point. Soloing gets you bored like that at such a point in any game I guess.
Yeah same. After 60 hours, I was like "well now I can kill anything not Orokin void, what now? Grind?"
Also the game lacks teamplay since people go off on their own in most missions and often one guy has like 80% damage because he has better weapons.
edit: you can shut ordis up in the options I hear. Blizzard sees warframe's potential and I hear is making a warframe like game. Except combined with other elements of games like L4d2.
- keeping an eye on alerts for useful modules / blueprints / rewards beyond the credits (@WarframeAlerts on twitter, there are also Xbox and PS versions as well) - crafting new weapons to rank them up for mastery experience. I've made it to level 4 using just my first frame and a handful of weapons - log in every day for the log-in reward, if I get the 75% off reward I'll probably spend $25 for $100 worth of platinum, just waiting for that to happe - helping clan-mates with missions, co-op for Level 1 Towers with them (really doesn't pay to go with fewer than 3 players)
If you guys are interested in a clan of newer / lower ranked players on the PC send me a friend invite in-game. My user name is Hydraslik. The more, the merrier. Our clan dojo is basically non-existent though, that might be a problem if you're looking for advanced blueprints or something. Just having folks to do stuff with has been pretty big in keeping me in the game. Can't hurt to give it a shot!
On February 02 2015 01:49 xuanzue wrote: Started playing. used the platinum to buy 1 slot of warframe and 2 of weapons.
what is a good early investment, one pet? or better a weapon? is there any resource with the dps of every weapon?
That's probably all you need for a while. I still haven't used mine yet. Leveling up mastery ranks earns you weapon slots every other level, I believe.
Carrier is a great first sentinel. Gives close-range protection with its shotgun attack and hovers up nearby ammo / loot / energy. Fully upgraded Vacuum mod should be first priority with it IMO.
If you need basic mods and cores I recommend running Mercury-Apollodorus for 20 or 25min before extract. I usually pick up 8-12 cores per 30m run.
On February 01 2015 09:35 dfs wrote: Hit a grinding wall after about a week or two of playing. Progress almost completely stopped. Was fun up untill that point. Soloing gets you bored like that at such a point in any game I guess.
Yeah same. After 60 hours, I was like "well now I can kill anything not Orokin void, what now? Grind?"
Also the game lacks teamplay since people go off on their own in most missions and often one guy has like 80% damage because he has better weapons.
edit: you can shut ordis up in the options I hear. Blizzard sees warframe's potential and I hear is making a warframe like game. Except combined with other elements of games like L4d2.
David Kim his allmighty denied that there´s a planed game ( like warframe ) in the star craft universe.
Anyone still playing this game? I just started and getting Mastery ranks seem painfully slow. It also seems difficult to grind up warframes and weapons. Am I missing something or do I just gotta spam the first few Earth missions over and over again?
You want to work on unlocking planets by killing world bosses (tagged as assassination missions). There are places more suited to grinding XP (affinity) than others.
I leveled up a new frame and set of weapons today very quickly running infested mobile defense missions on Saturn.
I stoped playing this game when they began lowering the effectiveness of previous weapons to sell new weapons. I still remmber when you could play defence missinos with Frost globe and a rocket launcher almost indefinitly (bare in mind it wasent easy in wave 50+, you still had to land every rocker perfectly not to get swarmed by overpowered enemies), and they kept nerfing it to a point where half of the warframes and weapons are flat out useless.
The way you improve a game is by adding new content that has to be adresed differently, not by forcing players to grind in order to ... keep grinding.
They nerfed all shotguns to have damage drop off (which made my beloved Hek obsolete) and nerfed some ammo counts that made no sense whatsoever but many older Warframes received buffs at some point.
The Boltor Prime is still one of the best primaries and has been since it was introduced in Update 12.4 (almost a year ago). I still play mostly Loki Master Race and he's a first generation Warframe. If you grind reputation on Draco your setup looks like 2x Excal, 1x Trinity, 1x buffer (which can be Rhino) - all first generation Warframes. If you farm rare drops you probably go with 1x Mag, 1x Excal, 2x Nekros - first generation with exception of Nekros who was also introduced in 2013.
Yeah Mesa is pretty incredible for defense nowadays but you'll still want to bring a Frost if you don't have a Limbo available.
i'm still on my starter excal, do i just need better weapons to be able to do the higher level missions? or do the mods on my warframe matter a lot too
this game has many flaws. the p2w model brings a lot of bottlenecks that can only be addressed with the most painful and boring grinding, or with real money.
the maps are repetitive.
the p2w is extreme, with platinum you can buy credits. "forma" and potatoes. the farm of those components is monotonous. i.e. want 10k of credits? go and make 3!!!! times the same invasion mission.
if really blizzard or other big company makes a game like this then warframe will be a desolate place
the games has some interesting concepts, but the p2w model makes this game subpar, considering there are other f2p games.
Yay I finally got Rank 2 Mastery doing 1-6 Defense Missions and getting carried by high levels. Anyone know if a Synoid Gammacor is worth 50p? Also can i use it at Rank 2?
Anniversary is this week so you can log in to receive two weapons (first anniversary's Dex Furis, and the new Dex Dakra) and two slots to go with them. Also, I've landed in an active clan that is part of an alliance if people are coming back to the game to check things out and need a clan (you'll need one to make the new warframe, Chroma). Send a pm with your handle (This is on PC) if you want an invite or just want to hang out.
i quite often have trouble finding a party for missions, especially when i'm just trying to proceed, but the grinding survival, interception and defence missions are always populated
Ah I see, yeah that's indeed an issue. Hopefully the next rework of the star chart will fix or at least improve this. Might be a few months before we see that happening though.
for me its walking in between the action and other timewasters. But its a different look and new enemies. Freaking artillery :D . But the watch Warframe streams for rewards seems to be working extremely well.
I've been grinding this game on and off for a couple of years. For those who only want to farm the best stuff, here is a list of frames/weapons considered top tier in the recent patches:
DPS Frames:
Banshee: AOE CC and Dmg, primed version available Mesa: her 4th ability is just a press to win key, you can pretty much steal all the kills/dmg from your teammates with this frame. A lot more can go in this list, but these two are my personal favorite
Tanking Frames:
Nidus Chroma Inaros I don't like to play tanks in this game, these are just what most players use
CC/Utility/Support Frames:
Frost: Prime version is free with twitch prime Trinity: Considered best support in the game, primed version available Octavia: You can customize her music, good CC
Melee Weapons:
Galatine Prime: known by the community as the room blender Atterax: if you like whips War: easy to get from quest Nikana Prime: one of the best fast hitting weapons
Shotguns:
Tigris Prime: high dmg weapon with high status chance Sancti Tigris: similar to above Vaykor Hek: similar to above, with more ammo and less dmg Shotguns are super OP in this game, with maxed out mods they can 1 shot anything from a very long distance, you can even use them as snipers, these are my go to primary weapons
Rifles:
Soma Prime: Long been considered as a DPS staple Tenora: this one is newer, but feels pretty good so far I think rifles do not do enough damage for high end content compared to shotguns, but fast fire rate is good for general farming
Launchers (will blow yourself up a lot with these):
Zarr Opticor Tonkor (recently nerfed, this weapon used to not deal self damage, which was broken as hell)
Secondary Weapons:
Akstiletto Prime: high rate of fire, feels like a high dps machine gun Euphona Prime: this is just a mini shotgun, 1 shots trash mobs
A list this well organized makes me more interested in the game than anything else lol
I remember playing this ages ago back when it was in beta. Seems like there's been a sudden boom with the new update. Might have to give it a shot again. Are there major differences between PC and console versions? I assume the accounts aren't shared either.
Console versions are always behind on patches. Like Plains of Eidolon hit PCs already, but not consoles yet. Yes, I also use a list very similar to the one linked above compiled by players for newbies. This game does have quite a bit of depth to it, and also does a piss poor job of feeding you the necessary info. Been playing for around ~3 weeks now and am having fun. The grind is real and sometimes unbearable but overall pretty well designed.
My friend and I just got back into this game after ~4 years of not playing and we had no idea what was any good. This is exactly what we were looking for.
After completing the star chart and quests, you pretty much need the wiki open at all times to know where to farm for anything in this game. Also you need to save all your plat for item slots if you plan on playing for free.
The gameplay seems fun but not a lot of things are explained. For example why is melee attacking default with "e" instead of the more intuitive left mouse button. When I click the left mouse button (at least in my case) nothing happens in terms of attacking but my screen gets all yellow as if I am about to cast some spell
On October 22 2017 15:03 Jimmy Raynor wrote: The gameplay seems fun but not a lot of things are explained. For example why is melee attacking default with "e" instead of the more intuitive left mouse button. When I click the left mouse button (at least in my case) nothing happens in terms of attacking but my screen gets all yellow as if I am about to cast some spell
left click while your melee weapon is out is Channeling.
It increases damage at the cost of energy and there are mods that interact with it, including one that heals you when you hit with a channeled attack.
This game is fucking sick. I honestly don't remember how long ago I played the beta (briefly) for the first time or how much has changed since then. I'm basically approaching it as a whole new game. But god damn is it fun already. I'm still a babby; I just got to Venus after a few hours + some practice/tutorials for beginners and movement and such. Still using Excalibur and the super basic starter stuff until I max it for mastery. I did get some bonus rewards via Twitch Prime but haven't touched em yet, or even know if they're better or worse.
The mobility is intoxicating. At worst it's still an engaging shooter where you run around looting stuff and killing basic enemies with weapons that feel satisfying. But with the right environments, enemy waves, weapons, etc it just escalates to something crazy and unique and a blast. It feels like a game without rules, where any goofy combination of shit I do not only works but rewards me and puts a smile on my face.
The guides posted higher up on this page are great. If anyone has nay quick bullet points on noobie advice or "wish I'd known this in my first X hours" stuff feel free to spill it haha. I'm trying to spend minimal resources until I actually understand what's going on and how progression works.
On November 03 2017 09:46 Duka08 wrote: This game is fucking sick. I honestly don't remember how long ago I played the beta (briefly) for the first time or how much has changed since then. I'm basically approaching it as a whole new game. But god damn is it fun already. I'm still a babby; I just got to Venus after a few hours + some practice/tutorials for beginners and movement and such. Still using Excalibur and the super basic starter stuff until I max it for mastery. I did get some bonus rewards via Twitch Prime but haven't touched em yet, or even know if they're better or worse.
The mobility is intoxicating. At worst it's still an engaging shooter where you run around looting stuff and killing basic enemies with weapons that feel satisfying. But with the right environments, enemy waves, weapons, etc it just escalates to something crazy and unique and a blast. It feels like a game without rules, where any goofy combination of shit I do not only works but rewards me and puts a smile on my face.
The guides posted higher up on this page are great. If anyone has nay quick bullet points on noobie advice or "wish I'd known this in my first X hours" stuff feel free to spill it haha. I'm trying to spend minimal resources until I actually understand what's going on and how progression works.
Resources are all possible to farm and it's definitely possible to make ~40platinum per hour, so it's not extremely rare. I still recommend using Plat on warframe and weapon slots early on, mainly because I really don't like selling my guns all the time.
My biggest advice is probably: Don't build the gorgon. It's abysmal. Also don't be too stingy with your potatoes. If you really like a weapon and it's disposition 3 or better, you can likely clear the entire content of the game with it if you double the capacity.
I love movement in the game, but I don't feel like the game really rewards that movement at all outside of rushing low lvl missions. Especially Grineer will just shoot you down later, no matter how fast you are going.
Which is exemplary for the game. There's a lot of cool stuff, but they didn' really think about how it actually plays out. If they just made a buy2play version and invested time into really thinking their elements through instead of rushing out new content to keep the community going and buying the game would probably be a lot better.
The game is still fun and all and i have like 450 hours of playtime of a f2p game, so it's whining on a high level I guess. Still feels to me like they could have done so much more with it.
On November 03 2017 09:46 Duka08 wrote: I did get some bonus rewards via Twitch Prime but haven't touched em yet, or even know if they're better or worse.
The guides posted higher up on this page are great. If anyone has nay quick bullet points on noobie advice or "wish I'd known this in my first X hours" stuff feel free to spill it haha. I'm trying to spend minimal resources until I actually understand what's going on and how progression works.
The Twitch Prime bonus stuff is actually fairly good. The Soma Prime is one of the best automatic rifles in the game and worth to invest Forma into. Frost Prime is a solid frame to get into party play, although not top tier anymore. Scindo Prime is similar in terms of its power, so it's a decent weapon for now - certainly better than the stuff new players start with.
Advice I would give is to watch the alerts for things like Forma and Orokin Catalyst/Reactor Blueprints. Those make all your frames and weapons and stuff work and are essential for later stage gameplay. Also get a sentinel with Vacuum asap, it's probably one of the best quality of life things in the game.
I came back to the game with Plains of Idolon as well. I played a shit ton during closed beta and tried to get back into the game ~3 years ago. Back then I didn't have the time to get familiar with all the new mechanics as I had more important things in my life at that point. But now that I have some time to spend to really get back into it, it's been a blast so far.
Feel free to contact me in the game if you need advice, help with something or just someone to talk to and play with. I still have a clan dojo from way back when that enables trading and research. Name's the same as here.
I've been recommended this game to solve my grinding needs, but I'm not sure about it. I used to enjoy games like Tibia and flyff which were pretty hardcore on farming. Both levels and items. So I'm not too sure where this game holds up to them.
I would rate it as a grind game. The gameplay is different from Flyff though (and grind probably not that insane). So testing it out is the only option I guess.
On November 03 2017 14:24 Archeon wrote: but I don't feel like the game really rewards that movement at all outside of rushing low lvl missions
I should clarify, I don't necessarily mean rewarding like survival or anything beyond just getting around faster. I don't expect quick movement and tons of bullet jumping to stop the AI from hitting me with hitscan lol. I just mean psychologically and fun-wise. Things just work like you expect, or if they surprise you it's in a satisfying and silly way. Like I said, "no rules". In typical (especially 3rd person) shooters you can usually break everything down in a basic way. You can move. You can jump. You can crouch. You can sprint. They're all like, quantized, individual features. In Warframe everything interacts in a really cool way. It's like a power fantasy, but from a mechanical perspective, not "my character is OP" but "they allow me the player to feel OP just by experimenting with different combinations of shit".
Thanks for all the notes by the way everyone. Expect to log a bunch of hours this weekend and start dabbling with the other weapons/frames I've got already. When is it reasonable to start actually working toward / farming for specific weapons or frames? Should I keep an eye on something right now right off the bat? Or should I just dink around with the starter (and twitch prime stuff) until I'm many planets in for example. I guess I could rephrase this like: if/when does the game turn over from being focused on working toward the next junction(s) to more open ended "just grinding for that thing you want"?
One thing that came up in the above posts that I hadn't thought much about was group play. Is it typical to pug content? Is there a substantial reward to grouping/pugging content rather than soloing? Or a substantial amount of content that's difficult/impossible to solo at all? I figured I'd mostly be playing solo, just by personal preference mostly, and even if I got some friends into it you never know how many hours someone will end up putting in.
I would start looking at other weapons/frames when your current one is nearing max mastery (30) or just when you want to change things up. Easy enough to go back and level stuff later if your bored of it right now.
When you start grinding depends a lot on what you like and how you play I guess. You can safely wait and unlock the entire map before grinding stuff, or you can do it in little bits as you complete planets (like get the warframe that drops from the planet boss every time).
f2p might not be an excuse, but my internet sure is T.T .
As for grouping. There are frames that up droprate so to say and more people = more spawn. So grouping makes farming faster. There are a few rare scenarios that are locked to 5-8 players. But outside of those things I solod pretty much all the content. Needs some specialized frames in some situations though. But I am 90% of the time on Valkyr hehe.
great thing about the game is that you just play and do things at ur own pace. i'm mastery level 15 and still haven't completed all of the nodes on the starmap yet.
A lot of the guides and resources I've used so far for beginners are mostly pre-POE. Should I try and keep up with the new quest line(s) from the Plains (Saya/Onkko stuff) as I progress? Or should I just focus on planets+junctions and come back to rush the quests later?
On November 07 2017 10:53 Duka08 wrote: A lot of the guides and resources I've used so far for beginners are mostly pre-POE. Should I try and keep up with the new quest line(s) from the Plains (Saya/Onkko stuff) as I progress? Or should I just focus on planets+junctions and come back to rush the quests later?
The state of PoE currently is very grindy. Warframe is a grindy game and everyone knows this, but PoE sets the bar at a whole new level of the grind-olimpics. I think you should set any serious PoE intentions to the side currently and focus on the main game. The quests are good, there is a lot frames to be farmed, weapons to be built and a whoooole lot of high end mods to be acquired. You seriously aren't missing out on anything yet. And I doubt people would want you for eidolon kills without moderately higher end gear. PoE will change soon, bounty rework, focus 2.0 rework etc. The only thing you're missing out on is fishing I guess, if you're into that.
On November 07 2017 10:53 Duka08 wrote: A lot of the guides and resources I've used so far for beginners are mostly pre-POE. Should I try and keep up with the new quest line(s) from the Plains (Saya/Onkko stuff) as I progress? Or should I just focus on planets+junctions and come back to rush the quests later?
The state of PoE currently is very grindy. Warframe is a grindy game and everyone knows this, but PoE sets the bar at a whole new level of the grind-olimpics. I think you should set any serious PoE intentions to the side currently and focus on the main game. The quests are good, there is a lot frames to be farmed, weapons to be built and a whoooole lot of high end mods to be acquired. You seriously aren't missing out on anything yet. And I doubt people would want you for eidolon kills without moderately higher end gear. PoE will change soon, bounty rework, focus 2.0 rework etc. The only thing you're missing out on is fishing I guess, if you're into that.
Perfect, I'll focus on the star chart for now. Thanks.
Does anyone here still play? And/or if you don't play often anymore are you at least experienced and willing enough to answer a few questions lol?
I try to pick this back up every couple months whenever I'm burned out on whatever other grindy game I'm usually dabbling in (usually Path of Exile) but every time I come back there's always so many questions and things that confuse or frustrate me that I have trouble getting super invested. I really love the actual gameplay itself, it's very satisfying, unique, fluid, fast-paced, etc etc etc. But the overall approach and "what to do, where to go, what to get" is always either too overwhelming or too confusing. Googling around for resources and references now and then is fine, but with Warframe it's excessive and I often I feel like I never come out knowing much more than I went in with.
I've been keeping a running list of questions and shit that bug me often whenever I play and I wanted to just dump it and get some nice succinct answers here, instead of digging through wikis and old posts that might be out of date and sometimes conflicting/vague responses. But if no one still plays I won't bother lol.
I am currently not playing, because i can't handle the grinding. If you have some questions, i am willing to try to answer them, however.
The main thing you need to realize is that there are buttloads of different things you can do. But you don't have to do all of them. Set some short-term goal for yourself, and maybe a longer-term goal. (All of your goals are basically "acquire a thing", as Warframe is mostly a game about acquiring stuff)
Hey sweet. Yeah I don't mind the grind when I'm in the mood, like I said that's pretty much the only reason I give it a shot now and then, love the gameplay but just don't really have a goal which hurts the motivation, and always have so many questions buzzing around in my head. So with that in mind... Edit: forgot to add, I'm around the Jupiter/Europa range (just unlocked Europa but I really haven't done much on Jupiter either)
1) WHEN do I need to start seriously worrying about damage types and status effects? Should I just be looking for every ounce of damage I can get at this point regardless of type? Or is it worth sacrificing a damage mod for a specific type (say, corrosion/viral?) and/or boosting status chance this "early"?
2) Is there a smarter or more efficient way of gaining Mastery Ranks? New weapons and some missions are gated behind MR but progress feels very slow. I thought the idea was just keep using new weapons that aren't maxed yet, which I have been. Is that wrong? 2.5) Related: Is it bad to sell shitty weapons I doubt I'll use? Or is it important to keep them around for affinity/MR? I need slots for new weapons but don't know if selling old/bad ones is a terrible idea for whatever reason.
3) Forma and Catalysts/Reactors and all that... any reason to save them or should I go nuts? Are they common enough that it's worth doubling every weapon/warframe I have or should I try to wait? I've never Forma'd either, I'm intentionally sitting on my max level Soma Prime as a safe go-to weapon if I get into trouble somewhere, but should I Forma it now and start re-leveling it because the extra polarity is that good? Also are there specific polarities that I should lean toward for different weapon types or Warframes? Serration, Point Strike, Vital Sense and Split Chamber are all the same polarity (Madurai) for example, and seem pretty huge for any rifle...
4) Should I be going out of my way to focus on fleshing out my mod collection (still missing some important ones like multishot?) or is that something that just naturally happens as you play from random drops? 4.5) How much should I be slamming endo into "core" mods like Serration, Point Strike, etc? Should I be desperately leveling those as high as possible because they're so important? Or should I be spreading my endo around to get just a few levels into many different mods?
5) Is there a big advantage to fully fleshing out the star chart as you progress, or better to just get the junctions done ASAP and focus on getting to harder planets and unlocking quest lines?
6) Still haven't really fucked around with the POE content yet much... is it ok to leave all that until late/end game (was recommended to me in the past) or is it useful to get into earlier on (I know there have been some changes since it was first introduced)?
7) Syndicates? Anything to care about other than the max rank weapon? Currently "doing" Steel Meridian for Vaykor Hek but not that seriously
I will probably keep thinking of more but these are most of the big stuff that comes to mind and isn't necessarily stuff I can just check the wiki for. My only "goals" so far are mostly just slowly working away at a few of the low rank weapons I see recommended sometimes but I haven't thought about building new frames or which ones are even a good idea since I think some of the ones I'm more interested in (Mesa, Nidus, Valkyr maybe? idk) I think aren't available until later? So I'm just playing a max rank Frost Prime sort of indefinitely and maybe that's a terrible/unproductive idea?
On July 30 2018 03:20 Duka08 wrote: Hey sweet. Yeah I don't mind the grind when I'm in the mood, like I said that's pretty much the only reason I give it a shot now and then, love the gameplay but just don't really have a goal which hurts the motivation, and always have so many questions buzzing around in my head. So with that in mind...
I sadly don't get a good feeling about what point of the game you are at currently (Meaning, how much stuff do you have )
Keeping that in mind, i will try to answer your questions in a general way
1) WHEN do I need to start seriously worrying about damage types and status effects? Should I just be looking for every ounce of damage I can get at this point regardless of type? Or is it worth sacrificing a damage mod for a specific type (say, corrosion/viral?) and/or boosting status chance this "early"?
You don't really need to worry about them a lot. You could, if you wanted to minmax, have different weapon loadouts for missions with different enemy types. I was always to lazy to do that. Usually you also don't really have to choose damage or specific types, but just "what kind of elemental damage do i want on this weapon". Depending on what gun you use, you will have some amount of slots open for elemental, usually 2-4 in a good loadout. Into these you put whatever elements you want to have, since base elemental mods are neither very expensive nor very expensive to max out.
One exception: If you are fighting sentients, and are not yet doing the plains of eidolon magic stuff, you need as many different damage types as possible on your loadout, as they gain immunity.
[/quote] 2) Is there a smarter or more efficient way of gaining Mastery Ranks? New weapons and some missions are gated behind MR but progress feels very slow. I thought the idea was just keep using new weapons that aren't maxed yet, which I have been. Is that wrong? 2.5) Related: Is it bad to sell shitty weapons I doubt I'll use? Or is it important to keep them around for affinity/MR? I need slots for new weapons but don't know if selling old/bad ones is a terrible idea for whatever reason. [/quote] No. You can obviously grind for mastery by doing harder/more farmy missions and having only one good thing equipped (Or being a dick and letting you team carry you completely, but don't be a dick). My general rule of thumb is to have at least one shitty item on me at all times for levelling. You level mastery a lot faster in some harder missions with lots of enemies, like high-level defense or survival. But mostly it is just something you do on the side.
You can sell shitty weapons, especially those which are easy to get. But you should level them to full mastery first.
3) Forma and Catalysts/Reactors and all that... any reason to save them or should I go nuts? Are they common enough that it's worth doubling every weapon/warframe I have or should I try to wait? I've never Forma'd either, I'm intentionally sitting on my max level Soma Prime as a safe go-to weapon if I get into trouble somewhere, but should I Forma it now and start re-leveling it because the extra polarity is that good? Also are there specific polarities that I should lean toward for different weapon types or Warframes? Serration, Point Strike, Vital Sense and Split Chamber are all the same polarity (Madurai) for example, and seem pretty huge for any rifle...
Catalysts/reactors are pretty rare. You get blueprints from time to time from missions, but if you want to double everything, you need to invest some platinum, which you might rather want to use for weapon/frame slots. I have never bought any for plat, despite having a bit of the stuff lying around due to being inactive for a few years, which meant that some of the shit i had was suddenly valuable. Use Catalyst and reactors only on stuff that you think you will be using long-term. Good weapons and frames that you enjoy using. However, stuff without catalyst/reactor is basically unusable in the later game missions, as it simply doesn't do enough without all the extra mods.
Forma is not as rare, and a bit more annoying to use. Use Forma for a very few very high-end items. Make a plan for the final loadout you want in that items. If you don't have the mods at a high enough level, you don't need to forma yet. Forma if the mods you want don't fit into the thing you want to use them in, in a way that allows you to do so (while possibly having some extra flexibility just in case. Formaing for serration is always good, as you will always use serration in any gun it fits into. Similarly, your Soma wants the crit mods and is shit without them, so you can forma it for those as well. Only do this if you can't fit everything you want into your doubled weapon.
Not all weapons play well with crit, some have very low crit modifiers or base crit chances. Soma wants crit majorly. Serration and split chamber go into everything, that is true.
4) Should I be going out of my way to focus on fleshing out my mod collection (still missing some important ones like multishot?) or is that something that just naturally happens as you play from random drops? 4.5) How much should I be slamming endo into "core" mods like Serration, Point Strike, etc? Should I be desperately leveling those as high as possible because they're so important? Or should I be spreading my endo around to get just a few levels into many different mods?
Farming mods is very hard, though some have very specific drop situations, and it is sometimes fun to do. If you don't want to do this, you can buy most common mods incredibly cheap (1-5 plat). At some point, you want to start trading. Sell some doubles, buy some things that you want. It is a necessary part of the game. Don't trade in the trade channel unless you want to go mad, use a trading site with a better interface(It used to be warframe market when i was still playing). Endo use isn't clear. Don't ever level mods that you are not currently using obviously. You eventually want maxed serration, but the cost is prohibitively expensive in the beginning, since every new level doubles the cost of the last one. So for the price of getting serration from 9 to 10, you could instead get another mod of the same rarity from 0 to 9, or two from 0 to 8, 4 from 0 to 7. So don't max stuff out right away, but spread the endo around a bit between the major mods that you are using.
5) Is there a big advantage to fully fleshing out the star chart as you progress, or better to just get the junctions done ASAP and focus on getting to harder planets and unlocking quest lines?
It is very useful to have access to everything to be able to go to any alert you like. Alerts are a major way of getting rare stuff, and if you don't have access to the node the alert is on, you can't get that rare thing. The other advantage is that you can deploy harvesters on planets which you have completed, which allow you to gain free materials.
That being said, getting access to harder stuff and missions is also useful.
6) Still haven't really fucked around with the POE content yet much... is it ok to leave all that until late/end game (was recommended to me in the past) or is it useful to get into earlier on (I know there have been some changes since it was first introduced)?
Can't help you here sadly, i don't know a lot about those mechanics. It seemed like a completely tacked-on sidegame to me, similar to the archwings. Basically, warframe at this point is three mostly unrelated games with some overlap. Warframe, Archwing and PoE magic stuff.
7) Syndicates? Anything to care about other than the max rank weapon? Currently "doing" Steel Meridian for Vaykor Hek but not that seriously
Nah. Just do any you like by slapping the sign on your back. You will eventually get a weapon and some mods, but you can trade for those of the syndicates that you don't have, and none of them are very expensive. You can usually trade yours for theirs.
I will probably keep thinking of more but these are most of the big stuff that comes to mind and isn't necessarily stuff I can just check the wiki for. My only "goals" so far are mostly just slowly working away at a few weapons I see recommended fairly often but I haven't thought about building new frames or which ones are even a good idea since I think some of the ones I'm more interested in (Mesa, Nidus, Valkyr maybe? idk) I think aren't available until later? So I'm just playing a max rank Frost Prime sort of indefinitely and maybe that's a terrible/unproductive idea?
Frost prime is a good frame. It is especially useful in defense missions. Though i would try to get some variety going, just to avoid boredom. A loki is a very useful thing to have for spy missions, and there are a bunch of different frames which do cool DPS stuff. If your frame is maxed, consider tacking a lens onto it.
Getting weapons is also a good goal.
You seem to overestimate the importance of XP, as far as i can tell. You should try to gain access to some later missions. I remember levelling stuff from 1-20 in 1-2 missions, if they are the right missions. But i guess you need some gear base to be able to do those missions, too.
Yeah I edited in my progress later, totally slipped my mind sorry -- I just unlocked Europa. I have Excalibur, Frost Prime, and Trinity (second two each from Twitch Prime stuff I think lol) and like 7-8 weapons total? I JUST bought my first two extra weapon slots with the 50 starter platinum so however many that is.
All of this is super useful and really helps with peace of mind. Mostly I won't be afraid to lug maxed weapons and frames around and only "level" 1-2 things at a time. Rather than a loadout full of unoptimized stuff, which has definitely caused some artificial hurdles. That Soma Prime carries me lol. I'll hold on to my reactors and catalysts for stuff I know I'll use and love, and I'll only start Forma'ing when I literally can'tfit all the mods I KNOW I want onto one frame/gun. It sounds like leveling things back up goes way quicker later on, I was worried you'd want to "forma sooner so you can max the weapon out again" or something but that's probably not an issue.
Sounds like I'll just keep progressing the star chart with a decent loadout instead of worrying about crafting or farming anything super important yet. Maybe keep an eye out for the warframe parts that I want with the help of the wiki. Like I said I'm not put off from the game due to boredom per se, just so overwhelmed and/or confused at times that not knowing what to do next can burn you out. I'm probably too worried about doing everything as efficiently as possible, instead of just playing the game first and then caring about that stuff after I actually have access to all the missions and blueprints and materials etc etc etc.
Thanks a ton this is really great info! If I think of anything else I'll probably post more but this helped a lot. A lot of it is more subjective / informal knowledge that's easier to just ask a vet about instead of looking through old and divisive forum threads. For everything else there's a wiki lol.
yeah i normally carry a fully forma'd primary or secondary, and have my other two slots levelling mastery fodder weapons. honestly, the cool thing about warframe is that u can progress at ur own pace and set ur own goals.
Warframe can be very overwhelming yes. Set goals and work towards those I found works best. Unlock the whole star map, do quest chains, grind specific frames/weapons you like.
Sidearm is a good slot to keep a leveling weapon in while you do stuff. Or level a main weapon with a melee/caster frame ect.
Valkyr btw is a great solo frame (or it just to be when I played), it drops from the Jupiter boss so not that hard to farm. Being able to become actually invincible while doing tons of damage can really carry you through tougher missions and bosses.
Yeah I plan to mostly play solo casually unless I can rope some friends back in, so I'm really interested in Valkyr, Mesa, and Nidus at the moment. Will probably do Loki too for spy stuff as Simberto mentioned. Seems fun. I'm just glad to know I don't need to feel like I'm ALWAYS leveling EVERYTHING for maximum progress. Cuz switching frames or primaries is going to be super painful after getting used to Frost and the Soma Prime, let alone both at once. I think I'm trying a Grakata(?) now and it's miserable lol. Sounds like I shouldn't feel bad about keeping at least one sick maxed weapon around to carry me so that will make everything smoother again.
You should not only not feel bad about it, you should do it, for two reasons:
A) It makes you not go mad B) You can do harder missions and do them faster (And thus progress more and level the other stuff you are carrying faster) if at least some of your gear is good. It doesn't all need to be good, but some of it should be.
I would aim for having a set of one good frame, primary, secondary and melee. That way you can swap any of them out to level something else and still be at least partially capable. The only situation i would go full on levelling stuff is when doing really low-level missions with a friend.
One thing i would suggest trying is doing some missions with randoms. It can sometimes be annoying to basically just follow people around, but on the other hand it can show you some cool stuff that you might wanna have at some point, and it allows you to progress faster. Especially when doing void stuff you will want to do them with groups anyways, as the rewards scale. And the random groups usually work very well. And a big advantage is that you actually level stuff that you don't use. Because XP from people other than you gets distributed and split evenly between your frame and all three of your weapons. This means that you can level stuff just by carrying it around while doing intersting stuff with your good weapons.
At some point, low-level weapons are just not doing anything. With good mods, you can increase the damage of a weapon by a few thousand percent. And some guns are just really bad even with good mods (like the grakata) Soma Prime is a gun which is endgame usable, with its only downside being its ammo consumption.
yeah don't play completely solo, it's mostly disadvantageous imo. the more players in a squad, the more enemies that spawn, which equals more affinity and resources. the main problem with playing solo is, kills you get with a weapon only give affinity to that weapon. but AOE shared affinity from allies getting kills goes to all of your gear. there are ways of farming affinity solo, for example running spy missions and stealth killing with ivara
Bought some starter package with 750 plat on sale. Had a blast finishing main story line, trying new frames and weapons. Ran out of plat. Don't feel like farming for plat, don't feel like buying more either because there is a daily reward that gives you 75% reduced price on it. Kept logging in one week just to check for that reward - Haven't logged in in over two weeks. I think I am cured. Was fun though.
I think that buying plat in this game is a bad idea. The reason being that the game is all about the grind to obtain stuff, and once you buy plat, and notice that you can trade for basically anything with that plat, there is no longer anything to grind for, the only thing to do is buying plat and using the trade system.
On July 31 2018 08:40 Simberto wrote: I think that buying plat in this game is a bad idea. The reason being that the game is all about the grind to obtain stuff, and once you buy plat, and notice that you can trade for basically anything with that plat, there is no longer anything to grind for, the only thing to do is buying plat and using the trade system.
I bought the Prime version of the Frame I liked most from another player because it was vaulted(didn't know stuff gets unvaulted eventually). I bought some colors and a few potatoes (can only farm them in sorties i think?). I kinda really started to like to collect all the stuff. There are several Warframes readily build in my foundry and I have all weapons unlocked you can unlock at my low mastery level, I just don't wanna scrap any of them, I mostly wanted more plat for more slots.
On July 31 2018 08:40 Simberto wrote: I think that buying plat in this game is a bad idea. The reason being that the game is all about the grind to obtain stuff, and once you buy plat, and notice that you can trade for basically anything with that plat, there is no longer anything to grind for, the only thing to do is buying plat and using the trade system.
i disagree, you support the devs, and plat has many uses beyond just skipping the grind. i spend most of my plat on warframe/weapon slots. you can also buy some nice cosmetics with them. and sometimes, when you're just sick of grinding for that last primed part, you can buy it.
I buy plat when I get -75% off. Totes worth it I think. The game is amazing and is free2play, and they don't sell loot boxes or mystery boxes. You pay for what you see. Buying plat also speeds up the game considerably, it's not a pay2win system but pay2grindless. With plat you can straight up buy weapon slots, the much needed yellow/blue potatoes and forma. Also boosters for leveling. Some frames require A LOT of resources to build like Vauban Prime. You buy 1 booster for 30 days for 200 plat and you can safely farm him in that span of time. Later on, when you're MR 24, 25 you can buy yourself some nice rivens for your favourite weapons. Rivens are mods on steroids that you can get only from sorties and a few select quests. I am super happy with my Pyrhana Prime riven and Tiberon Prime riven, also Sybaris Prime :p. Got them for 200-500 plat, rolled them for kuva and got myself real nice end-game weapons now.
The game is really good in coop and I suggest playing it that way. I only solo spy sorties really, and farm cetus wisps solo. Otherwise there really is no point in playing solo. PvP is dead and burried and people brining OP stuff to the same mission as you isn't something that inhibits you in any way.
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