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Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-23 12:19:06
November 23 2014 12:13 GMT
#1901
http://i.imgur.com/xsnFwFQ.jpg?1

Looks like a pretty good war, just need to take out English landing parties, give Guyenne 11 base tax worth of cores back and take Calais for myself while further improving relations with my neighbours. Got a few useless alliances that hurt my dip/month, but that's okay.

Edit: rofl, just realised I had 11 idle ships since the start. Wow I'm dumb.
Edit2: bitch slapped Austria.. all is going well this time http://i.imgur.com/yco2n8m.jpg?1
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
November 24 2014 16:03 GMT
#1902
Funny thing in my Burgundy game where Spain flipped from same dynasty, best buddies, together forever, to -200, hates your guts, wants your provinces.

The culprit: "Establish a Presence in India". I may have taken half the Indian coast in one war...
I am the Town Medic.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-24 17:11:18
November 24 2014 17:05 GMT
#1903
On November 25 2014 01:03 Alzadar wrote:
Funny thing in my Burgundy game where Spain flipped from same dynasty, best buddies, together forever, to -200, hates your guts, wants your provinces.

The culprit: "Establish a Presence in India". I may have taken half the Indian coast in one war...

What's your AE like? I'm very close to quitting again.. it's currently 1497 and I still mis about 10 provinces from the French region, with the coalition being huge as per usual. I can't do anything currently because my allies have a positive attitude towards my enemies, so they won't join in an offensive war, and missing even one ally will be hard. I'll need to wait for a while before fighting another uphill war. Currently I'm fighting 1/2 of the coalition each time, not even a perfect half, so I should really try to make it 1/3 next game.

forced austria to release Styra and England dropping 10k soldiers every now and then doesn't really matter, but the horde of OPM and rich northern italians is getting so annoying.

Pretty much all of my games of countries bordering the HRE stop being fun for me for the same reason. Coalitions never seem to get so out of hand outside of central Europe.

[image loading] It's not like I took everything I could grab, I had claims on most provinces I took this game and used return core a lot. In my Netherlands game I took the French region by 1510 without a coalition of more than 2 countries, but that was before stuff like 15 year truce timers.

Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
November 24 2014 17:22 GMT
#1904
I've played a completely different style from you so it's not really comparable. France, Spain, Portugal, Great Britain and Austria-Bohemia all hate me, but there's no coalition because I've only taken Burgundian provinces. By helping win the War of the Protestant League, Austria was overthrown and the current emperor doesn't hate me, since I removed all my provinces from HRE while Austria was emperor.

Naval battles still baffle me. I can never predict how they will turn out. 20 heavies, 40 lights vs 90 lights, ends with the first fleet completely sunk and 88 lights left on the winning side.
I am the Town Medic.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-24 19:27:56
November 24 2014 19:25 GMT
#1905
On November 25 2014 02:22 Alzadar wrote:
I've played a completely different style from you so it's not really comparable. France, Spain, Portugal, Great Britain and Austria-Bohemia all hate me, but there's no coalition because I've only taken Burgundian provinces. By helping win the War of the Protestant League, Austria was overthrown and the current emperor doesn't hate me, since I removed all my provinces from HRE while Austria was emperor.

Naval battles still baffle me. I can never predict how they will turn out. 20 heavies, 40 lights vs 90 lights, ends with the first fleet completely sunk and 88 lights left on the winning side.


was your navy outdated? Navies don't update the same way your army does, if you have ships of the old type those will stay of that old type until you sell or disband them and build new ones. I think they introduced the ability to manually update them in Art of War but for that you need to have your navy in your port and it takes a long time.
Also naval and quality ideas improve your navy strength and a good leader can also change a fight on its own sometimes just like in land battles. Add to that the morales bonuses from power projection and prestige, those aren't immediately obvious but also important.


Does anyone here know how to quickly westernize as Japan? I tried to explore America and vassalize+diplo-annex some of those natives there but you can't diplo-annex a vassal unless it's in your coring range anymore. Slowly expanding into North America province after province takes ages, I guess I'll get there about the same time the Europeans start colonizing Indonesia so some time after 1700 probably. Is there any faster way?
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 24 2014 19:36 GMT
#1906
Just colonise the Phillipines. AI Spain colonises the Philipines at like 1600 or even earlier somehow.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-24 20:02:28
November 24 2014 20:00 GMT
#1907
On November 25 2014 04:25 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 02:22 Alzadar wrote:
I've played a completely different style from you so it's not really comparable. France, Spain, Portugal, Great Britain and Austria-Bohemia all hate me, but there's no coalition because I've only taken Burgundian provinces. By helping win the War of the Protestant League, Austria was overthrown and the current emperor doesn't hate me, since I removed all my provinces from HRE while Austria was emperor.

Naval battles still baffle me. I can never predict how they will turn out. 20 heavies, 40 lights vs 90 lights, ends with the first fleet completely sunk and 88 lights left on the winning side.


was your navy outdated? Navies don't update the same way your army does, if you have ships of the old type those will stay of that old type until you sell or disband them and build new ones. I think they introduced the ability to manually update them in Art of War but for that you need to have your navy in your port and it takes a long time.
Also naval and quality ideas improve your navy strength and a good leader can also change a fight on its own sometimes just like in land battles. Add to that the morales bonuses from power projection and prestige, those aren't immediately obvious but also important.


Ah, I was the 90 lights. My Burgundian trade fleet sailing around the Channel was just casually sinking enemy Galleons and I thought it was weird.

As far as I can tell navy morale is at best worthless and more likely bad. Having bad morale lets you escape from losing battles if you weren't paying attention - and if you're winning you won't lose your morale. The AI needs to be taught to retreat from losing battles, or some other overhaul needs to happen. 200 ships clashing with 100% losses on one side and 5% losses on their other is absurd. At the Battle of Trafalgar, a decisive victory for one side, only one ship was actually sunk.
I am the Town Medic.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
November 29 2014 12:41 GMT
#1908
So, all the EU4 DLCs except the most recent one are on the steam sale. Any of them worth it? WoN looks to have some interesting mechanics but CoP and RP look kinda weak.
Bora Pain minha porra!
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-29 18:14:22
November 29 2014 18:14 GMT
#1909
WoN and res publica pretty much go together.

CoP not that useful except for support independence, its a must if you want to play a NA native though. I don't have it though.

AoW is near mandatory.
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Uracil
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany422 Posts
November 29 2014 18:20 GMT
#1910
Imo the only Dlc you have to buy is AoW
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
November 29 2014 19:44 GMT
#1911
But that's also not the one on sale :'(. Anyway thanks guys I'll probably get WoN and RP, maybe wait until next year for a AoW sale, maybe buy right now.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 01:14:24
November 30 2014 01:13 GMT
#1912
I got screwed by mechanics in my current Poland game. I was leader of the Protestant League and the situation was perfect to begin the League War, I had Spain, Denmark, a strong Burgundy, Denmark and Sweden on my side versus a whole lot of HRE minors, Austria, and a France that's been getting pummeled.

I'm just about to declare but out of nowhere the Swedish king dies and I get a PU! Austria declares a succession war, and this triggers the Protestant League defensively but doesn't call in the Catholic League. So it's Austria vs the entire Protestant League, we smash them but I can't change HRE religion because it isn't a League War. So I just humiliate, plan on trucebreaking and starting a League War but I get booted from the League - you can't be in it while you have a truce with the Emperor.

So the whole Protestant League is disbanded, I have to wait 7 years to rejoin, and when I do, instead of rejoining as well, Spain rivals me and joins the Catholic league! And then Ottos and Russia also join the Catholic League. Catholic League now has Austria, France, Spain, Ottomans, Russia and like 20 HRE minors. It's hopeless.

The converse mechanic doesn't even work, I tried to squash Ottomans separately, but they're able to stay in the Catholic League despite their truce with the Protestant leader. Poor Polskis will never be Emperor now.
I am the Town Medic.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
November 30 2014 07:23 GMT
#1913
yeah, that truce thing is pretty weird. I guess its discouraging using leagues to get a free trucebreak but its such a pivotal feature in the game...
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
November 30 2014 12:49 GMT
#1914
i bought the eu4 extreme edition, i think it comes with all the dlcs. apparently it crashes very often, any idea why? =/ it's very intermittent
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Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 09:31:09
December 01 2014 09:31 GMT
#1915
On November 30 2014 21:49 icystorage wrote:
i bought the eu4 extreme edition, i think it comes with all the dlcs. apparently it crashes very often, any idea why? =/ it's very intermittent

Mine crashes all the time as well... Not much you can do about it, I think. I haven't played much other Paradox games, but I heard they have similar issues.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
December 01 2014 19:48 GMT
#1916
Am I the only one who thinks Islam is the most fun religion to play as? I really like their piety mechanics as well as their events.
EZ4ENCE
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 01 2014 19:54 GMT
#1917
It's up there. Christianity in Europe is fun as well though, with the Religious League mechanics. I've never played a Hindu nation but they seem fun.

Eastern/Pagan/Orthodox are pretty boring or outright bad.
I am the Town Medic.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 02 2014 06:07 GMT
#1918
Does the AI ever accept Enforce Peace?

[image loading]

Why is Livonian's desire for peace -101? The war is obviously lost - they have no army, no navy, and all their provinces are besieged. It's literally impossible for them to avoid utter defeat without foreign intervention. Meanwhile there is a bloody gigantic nation with 70 000 men sitting on the border ready to rescue them and enforce a white peace, but they don't want it. Why?

Meanwhile they're willing to accept an Alliance with me.

As soon as Denmark captured the last province they accepted a war reparations peace, then I annexed them and the Teutons for being so dumb.
I am the Town Medic.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
December 02 2014 06:25 GMT
#1919
I think I've seen them accept once
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 07:07:03
December 02 2014 07:03 GMT
#1920
I'm pretty sure that is Denmark's modifiers. They don't want peace because they're winning the war. You also don't appear to have positive enough relations with the Livonian Order to even propose an enforced peace (which is why the button is greyed out- you can enforce peace even if Denmark doesn't want one, triggering the intervention).
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