EPTFor vehicles it's pretty much a necessity to switch your loadout depending on map, your opponents if you're sticking on a server and opponents are too(keep tabs on who's using what and who's not shit) and most certainly also depends on whether you have actual friends backing you up in your vehicle.
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
For vehicles it's pretty much a necessity to switch your loadout depending on map, your opponents if you're sticking on a server and opponents are too(keep tabs on who's using what and who's not shit) and most certainly also depends on whether you have actual friends backing you up in your vehicle. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On June 17 2014 09:08 Divine-Sneaker wrote: If you're really into using the optimal loadouts, you should check out the symthic website for all the indepth data and discussion on the game etc. I'm not 100% up to speed on what competitive people use anymore. However, loadouts and whats the most effective thing will change depending on the state of the match. If you're playing 100% to win you'll hardly ever just be sticking to a single loadout or kit for a whole game, and having 2-3 different presets ahead of time specialized for different styles can be helpful. For vehicles it's pretty much a necessity to switch your loadout depending on map, your opponents if you're sticking on a server and opponents are too(keep tabs on who's using what and who's not shit) and most certainly also depends on whether you have actual friends backing you up in your vehicle. You didn't really say anything concrete ._. | ||
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
 Besides, However much I will play to win my matches I'll never be tryhard enough to not just use whatever weapon I want to. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On June 17 2014 20:49 Divine-Sneaker wrote: It was a longwinded way of saying, I haven't been playing whatever I might know is likely outdated, check the hub for people who do indeed know Besides, However much I will play to win my matches I'll never be tryhard enough to not just use whatever weapon I want to. I'm at the site and there is no sortment by popularity or "most used" is there? http://symthic.com/bf4-weapon-charts | ||
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Zero.Tha.Hero
Canada155 Posts
On June 18 2014 00:37 Torte de Lini wrote: I'm at the site and there is no sortment by popularity or "most used" is there? http://symthic.com/bf4-weapon-charts When I described my method, I meant researching weapon usage by top players in places like this. A quick glance through the top 10 players on the Assault class leaderboard reveals considerable use of the SCAR-H, ACE 23, ACE 52 CQB (carbine), M416, and AEK-971. This completely mirrors my experience in infantry combat, as I find myself cut down often with these cannons (and am also quite fond of the M416). The charts on Symthic are useful, but the individual weapon behavior, and overall similarities between many weapons in each category, leave most of the decision making up to the preference of the player. My example would be the fact that, based on the numerical characteristics, the F2000 should be one of the "better" assault rifles in the game; practical testing, however, shows that due to the extremely high ROF, it makes it quite challenging to effectively utilize in engagements with multiple enemies. The F2000 tends to dump it's clip so fast that targeting 3 enemies sequentially can often be interrupted by an untimely reload, a problem less likely to occur with a lower ROF AR. | ||
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
Last I heard, people were still using ACE 23, AEK, Scar-H, ACE 52. The rest I don't even know anymore. Same for attachments, I used to know what were the "optimal" combinations for weapons with certain strengths but they've probably changed since then. | ||
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AutoEngineer
United States97 Posts
When will EA announce BF5 or the successor of BF4? Is it still worth getting BF4 now? | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On June 21 2014 15:33 AutoEngineer wrote: Is BF4 still popular? When will EA announce BF5 or the successor of BF4? Is it still worth getting BF4 now? As of now, I would say BF4 is popular. I play on the PC, and there are plenty of servers with a lot of people playing. I think the game will dwindle over time when Hardline is out this fall. I would say the game is not worth it. Even with the latest patch there are still problems. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On June 21 2014 16:14 zoLo wrote: As of now, I would say BF4 is popular. I play on the PC, and there are plenty of servers with a lot of people playing. I think the game will dwindle over time when Hardline is out this fall. I would say the game is not worth it. Even with the latest patch there are still problems. What problems are there still? I haven't played in a few months, but when I did I didn't seem to be having any issues. | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On June 21 2014 17:18 blade55555 wrote: What problems are there still? I haven't played in a few months, but when I did I didn't seem to be having any issues. Depends on what you want to do in the game. I can't stand being a foot soldier most of the time due to the latency issues and bad netcode interp. Getting shot behind walls and cover, double KOs, shooting and doing no damage, etc. It's frequent enough to bother me. So if foot soldier is your thing and you're considering BF4, just know what you'll be forced to deal with. I usually fly the scout heli (I was one of those assholes who would dodge in and out of the buildings on Zavod racking up kills) as it's one of the few things I can tolerate. That's still fun to me, but it's about the only thing, so there's no variety in BF4 for me, and even that is a frustrating ordeal because countermeasures do jack shit and MAAs are still completely stupid. Attack Helicopters are really, really bad, which is really disheartening since I've been a pilot across most BF games since BF2. The stability of the game has improved drastically, but there have still been some connectivity problems that made me quit for a second time. Also, every time DICE patches the game, they break something new that remains a problem for weeks or months (read: the EMP blur bug that was making the game unplayable for a long time). I have other complaints that are more nitpicky (like how it's impossible to find a good game to play if you want to do squad play with three friends and how the online, social aspect is entirely lacking), but these are the biggest gameplay issue for me personally. The game was shoved out the door before it even got its teeth brushed or its shoes on, and the consumers are still paying for that attitude. I had some fun with it, but the honeymoon was short, and the one bit of longevity I found - being a pilot - is hampered by the fact that countermeasures are ineffective and that everyone is using engineer. In closing, I could probably squeeze out a very tentative recommendation with a number of asterisks attached to it. You can get some casual fun out of it, but the gunplay is average and occasionally laggy or buggy, the balance is kind of all over the place (with some guns that are simply way better than everything else)... the problems compound over time, and a competitive FPS this is really not. If you know what you're getting into, though, you can make an informed purchase at least. I'd give a more detailed summary but I bet you're already bored. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
That and now Bomber Jet is a ton of fun. I only play like 3 maps: Gulf of Oman, Shanghai and Zavod. The rest I can't fucking stand. The Boat maps are fucking atrocious. | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On June 22 2014 04:53 Torte de Lini wrote: I still play some BF4 actually. A lot more recently. For some reason, I get a huge kick playing that shitty support Heli and just drop people off. That and now Bomber Jet is a ton of fun. I only play like 3 maps: Gulf of Oman, Shanghai and Zavod. The rest I can't fucking stand. The Boat maps are fucking atrocious. Yeah, the map pool is really, really bad. | ||
Pik
Germany176 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On June 22 2014 05:43 Pik wrote: I miss Grand Bazaar and Strike on Karkand yes, who the fuck wanted Firestorm? These are the maps I like: Shanghai Zavod Gulf of Oman There are the maps I tolerate: Golmud Railway Guilin Peaks Caspian Border The rest can die | ||
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AutoEngineer
United States97 Posts
On June 21 2014 16:14 zoLo wrote: As of now, I would say BF4 is popular. I play on the PC, and there are plenty of servers with a lot of people playing. I think the game will dwindle over time when Hardline is out this fall. I would say the game is not worth it. Even with the latest patch there are still problems. Thanks for the reply. Hmm I thought Hardline was fundamentally very different from BF4? I've watched some videos of Hardline on Youtube and it seems like more of a GTA style game mixed with some Battlefield elements. I'd rather play Watch Dogs to be honest. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On June 22 2014 06:53 AutoEngineer wrote: Thanks for the reply. Hmm I thought Hardline was fundamentally very different from BF4? I've watched some videos of Hardline on Youtube and it seems like more of a GTA style game mixed with some Battlefield elements. I'd rather play Watch Dogs to be honest. Don't be fooled, it is BF4 in the same vein and style of gameplay. 32 vs 32 on a slightly smaller and less useful map. More gadgets. Same basic classes. Less useful vehicles except for transportation. Still chaotic, still round-base Buy weapons instead of unlocking them by playing rounds and earning money. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
On June 22 2014 23:26 Torte de Lini wrote: Buy weapons instead of unlocking them by playing rounds and earning money. That's a massive plus over BF4. The time commitment required to unlock weapons, gadgets, and customization options was well-nigh back-breaking. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Pik
Germany176 Posts
On June 22 2014 05:46 Torte de Lini wrote: yes, who the fuck wanted Firestorm? These are the maps I like: Shanghai Zavod Gulf of Oman There are the maps I tolerate: Golmud Railway Guilin Peaks Caspian Border The rest can die I like Flood Zone and Hainan Resort. Hated both at the start of BF4 now only play those. I only played the DLC maps to get 10 hours for the achievment in. Most maps look gorgeous but play like shit. Almost every BF3 map beats every BF4 map. I will definitly not buy Hardline, probably wouldnt even install it if it was a free BF4 mod. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
Flood Zone is a great map for infantry combat except when half your team decides to camp on the roof of buildings. And not to mention a enjoyable map for scout chopper pilots with all the tall structures to evade MANPADS spam. Now only if I get better at engaging other pilots. edit: There's also another thing I would like to bring up, why isn't there any love for the FAMAS? It's such an effective rifle with either a suppressor for CQC situations or muzzle break + angled grip for standard scenarios. | ||
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